for kaalchakra

a final summation to kaalchakra’s persistent obfuscations

(caveat: long post)

second attempt

#62 by temporal on July 31, 2005 9:05pm PT
kaalchakra #57:

you say To you yours only if yours does not, uninvited, hurt mine, right?

i said in #56: respect and tolerate those different from yours

comprehendre?

forget others, just between us two, who is obsessed with the other’s faith?

did i ever question your faith directly, indirectly, obliquely or even in passing?

i don’t expect you to... but for the record if you ever answer this in all honesty, you will gain more insight into your own personal quest...

underlined added for further emphasis

after not making even a half hearted attempt to understand me you launch into another one of your posts…sigh…i will make one final attempt…and if this does not work for you and me so be it:)

That is the central tragedy, isn’t it? …You, a most liberal of people, want all the understanding in the world without inconveniencing yourself to understand a single thing about others.

jeez, after all the exchanges we are not even on the same page…i can think of only two reasons for that….1: i am unable to explain where i come from or 2: you have permanent blinkers on your eyes or are deliberately avoiding to see my stance!

forget labeling me…your assertion is utterly preposterous that i want ALL the understanding in the world without understanding a SINGLE thing about other world/s

let me spell out in hopefully simple English what i have been saying over the years: I believe in live and let live ... do you understand this concept?

with six billion plus inhabiting this world hindus, muslims, christians, jews, buddhitsts, animists, atheists, agnostics, zoroastrians…(not in any particular order) have a right to live and let live…in harmony, in peace, in tolerance, and while avoiding loss of innocent civilian lives…

You are eager to deny every thing that the rest of mankind sees you doing and hears you saying, but you do not wish to listen to basic explanations of other’s everydayday beliefs.

this claim is preposterous…all the more since you are talking to me one on one!....mankind?...have some fear!

what is that i deny?

what is it that is done by my co-religionists in the name of my religion that over the years i have not denounced more vociferously than many?

as for your second claim here that i do not wish to listen to basic explanations of other’s every day beliefs….this is another myth

there was a time when i did comparative religious studies…all major religions evolve pointing to good and away from bad…and majority of their subscribers retain these basic good instincts…peaceful co-existence

…speaking of my religion…it does not sanction suicide bombing…it does not sanction taking innocent civilian lives…and while i fight the battles with those vested interests who have hijacked my religion to justify their nefarious activities in its name…and

… and other more pressing issues of survival, interests, priorities and passions ….i lack time to do more comparative religious studies…but am sure also that the ‘troubles’ there (in other religions) is not caused by this neglect of mine…smiley icon added!

You lay claim to every bit of respect anybody could give you, but you will not learn the elementary meaning of the word "respect" when it is time to offer it to others.

in the still of the night please reflect on what blasphemy you have written here

if anything

i give respect
not demand it!

What more can I - and others like me - say, my good friend, than you and people like you do not behave so out of deliberate and planned ill will, but out of ignorance, and a very weak moral framework that keeps you from making any effort to examine your ignorance.

you have hit the nail on the head…inadvertently….there is so much truth in what you say here…i am ignorant and have a very weak moral framework…but…

but for the same reason i try harder…to overcome these weaknesses

this has been a long post…and hopefully this will not go in vain…hopefully…but am not so sure…Allah knows best!

***

still life
in the hour-glass crystal bowl
apple from that garden
orange from china once
banana green and yellow
mango juicy succulent
wafting scent of past season’s
heat, rain, thunders, aromas
innocently saying
consume me
(05/07/31)

***

for someone (respecting anonymity won’t mention a name) who is making a move - wishes for good luck and health and peace -

zindagi
muskurahatON ka ta’aqoob
aur ikhtitaam
ik zarra e khaak

zindagi
sawaalON kay sehra maiN
ik safar e naa tamam

duck!
life is more than ducking
is it
can i add
a zillion question marks
after ’is it’ joan?
this poem was written with a particular friend in mind - for other friends and readers the reference may or mayn’t make sense

pursuit
journey
in pursuit of a smile
a smile
and what are we left with
to show for it
a spec of dust
a particle of ash?
(05/07/30)

***

koh e koft
pahaaR
chataan
patthar
heera
kanker

heera jo haar maiN jooR kay
teray seenay per machalta hay
taRpaata hay her raqeeb ko sada

aur

kanker jo chupkay say youN
chala aaya jootay maiN
her oothtay qad’m per
apnay wajood ka ehsaas e ziyaaN
yaad dilata hay aur
koft ko m’ri baRhata hay

mount of irritation: kismet or karma
mountain
rock
stone
diamond
pebble

diamond studded in that necklace
heaving with your breadths
wrapped in your fragrance
so near your heart

and

the stealthy pebble that sneaked
in my shoes and irritates
with every movement i make
(05/07/29)

***

pause button
where could the tooth brush go?
car keys, credit cards, invoices, letters
have misplaced them all
did it not like that cavity last night
and went for a walk in the snow
got lost, could not find way back

then the socks
the right colour, the wrong pattern
if i look for another pair the same color
i can match the pattern, a logical thought
but in the drawer full of undies
what is this vhs-c tape doing?
must be from some trip that
i thought i would watch later
but still, why in this drawer?

thirteen minutes to go
forget the socks, grab another pair
now where are the keys
will this be one of those days
did i leave them in the car again
but i did open the front door
last night
thinking of last night brought a smile
the first one of this morning
but no keys

and then the traffic
ordained (as if) to delay my arrival
missed two calls and an appointment
at work i made an excuse
and went for a walk by the lake
sat on a bench
and watched the geese twaddle
skaters and bikers zoom
as did some strollers
don’t know how long it lasted
but when i got up
i thanked no one in particular
for the functional pause button
(05/07/28)

*****

khooshi
...jawaban jo iqrar maiN youN
sir hilaya oos shokh nay tou
kaha hum nay khoosh nahiN haiN
bulkay khoosh-fehmi hay aap ko
yeh du’bi du’bi aahaiN
pur’nam nighaouN ka shikwaa
rug rug maiN behti bay’chaini
hur aahat pur youN dar taknaa
khooshi aisi hoti hay kya?
(Sep 01,2003)(rev 05/07/26)

***

my post on Doomed If They Do, Doomed If They Dont by Udayakumar

Udayakumar:

when push comes to shove

the leading world...powero uno and her allies have the weapons of mass destruction and the economic muscle, influence and deliver systems

the near-vanquished who do not yet have "the weapons of mass destruction nor the economic muscle, influence and deliver systems" have an inordinate amount of an intangible supreme faith in their cause*

result: inconvenience and sufferings for the civilians in and out of battle zones and ’occupied’ territories!

the seemingly unstoppable suicide bombers are a disenfranchised people’s weapon of mass destruction in this uni-polar world replacing the surface check and balance of the cold war

when the policy makers in the powerful world capitals recognise and act on this then only will a semblance of peace will rule the world again...only then will the enemy become visible...visibility is important for checks and balances, for quid pro quos, for talks and negotiations and discussions...otherwise it is dark ages for us

the west cannot bomb them all into submission
they cannot bring the west down on it knees
stalemate and mayhem will rule
and the innocent civilians everywhere will suffer the consequences

rgds

t

*i vehemently disagree with their cause and misplaced belief system

***

A candle, which burns at both ends burns twice as bright, but it also dies twice as fast. In death, do we gain what we might have not found in life? The consolation to this querry comes from the exposulations of the Hereafter, but the answer does not explain whether there is life for a fish above the water. july 25 ilog ferozk

feroz:
forget regret
forget (accumulated experiences forming the basis of) common sense
forget the last burn
forget the last tinge
forget that aria of euphoria (as it burned and whirled in ecstasy)
forget rights ( and lefts)
forget hereafter (be concerned with here)
forget yesterdays
forget that life
forget (and forgive) her
smile, here, now, today!

***

bhala aur kis tarah log chahatay haiN?
chaho na is shiddat say humaiN
kay kaheeN chahat ka yeh phanda
ik din khaak aashnaa na karday humaiN
munjamind ho jatay haiN so’on kar
bhala aur kis tarah log chahtay haiN
(sep 01/03) (rev05/07/25)

how else to love thee?
’love me not so intensely
burn me not passionately
i cannot tolerate this’
taken aback i wonder
how else to love thee
(05/07/25)

***

where does love fit in?
poles of prayers
oars in ignorant hands
stretching, pulling, pushing
sails aflutter with bravado
faith spiked lunacy
and skepticism tinged fear
life’s tightrope traversed

tentatively, gingerly
ground beneath moving
sinking slowly, rapidly

today, blindness shrouds
the end of the rope
ground, net, hope
nothing discernible…

walking the rope
is there a choice?
walking in trepidawe
laced with foggy hope
unsure what beckons

happily the simpletons
walk the trapeze
stunned blissfully

when time is up
we go down
one by one…

(yet despite beliefs, misgivings, delusions, wishful thinking...khush-fehmi, we’re individual fables of mirth, joy, sadness, melancholy aside ... just a speck of dust in the vast shoreline of the universe…just a speck… )

kahaaN hay insaaN kay bus may insaaN hona
fiq’t sahil-e-alam ka zarra e bay haqeer hona
khakhi jo hay woh, phir a’jub kia hay ismay
zarra e khaak ki haqeeqat kya thee kya hay

so much for purpose, goal
so much for religion
so much for life, living, love
so much love and yet so little…
(aug 31/2003) (rev 05/07/24)

***

hisaar
ik badal kay payker ko
youN galay say lagaya
jaisay malik e wajood e hasti
ka tohfaa ho woh m’ray lyay

chund sa’atouN kay baad hee
sheesha sheesha hu’a
apnay weh’m ka yay khaab
khood haathouN nay m’ray
grif’t maiN jakaR lya
wajood kO m’ray
(05/07/21)

***

stalemate
the ever so slight tremor
current flowing
an urge to melt
with (in) you
to a shangri la union
took that one hesitant step
and embraced you
closer and closer
expectant breathing
quivering arms
closed in
imprisoning
me into oblivion
(05/07/21)

***

Life
the dust settles
no, it does not
win(d)less winds
rearranges
settled dust
on life!
(04/07/20/)rev (05/07/21)

zarrat
jeewan ki rah kay
zarrat e gar’d o ghubaar
moalluq rehtay haiN fiza maiN
tehleel hotay haiN woh zaat maiN
dil o dimagh maiN youN
kay phir woh sadiouN baad
namoodaar hotay haiN
dharti kay seenay say
(05/07/21)

Weight of Water by Jawahara
#10 by temporal on July 21, 2005 8:29am PT
sinf e naazuk
sinf e naazuk ki
poochti ho kya
yar jawahara
naazuk, naazuk andaam
tez, aur tez ter bhee
subuk, subuk raftaar
and a conundrum
na samajhnay ki
na samjhanay ki
gur mil ja’aye tou
jannat zameen per
na milay tou living hell
tum kehti ho paani
hum kehtay haiN tsunami

:)

***

I-kismet/kismet

touch lamas
garmi warmth
attraction kashish
qurbat closeness
sparks chingari
milaap union

II karma/kar’m

union milaap
nazraiN looks
dreamy khaabi
phir then
one aik
naee new
morn sub’h
(05/07/20)

***


Actors - Painting by Moin

actors zindagi kay stage per
khaak aaludha libaadah ORhay
khum gardun aur dhundli ankhiON say
ik ghaire mur’a’ee taaqat kay zair
zindagi ki pug-dundi per youN
bhagtay chalay jaatay haiN hum
kay jub yeh safar hota hay khat’m
ik safar e naadanista per aur
nikal paRtay haiN hum
(05/07/19)
thanks to the friend who introduced me to moin

***
for n & r
never let go of these smiles
our lives seldom are a smooth ride
recall this tested wisdom of ours
every time you argue or fight
every time smiles turns to frowns --
never to let go of these smiles
recall these glowing days and how
you began this (new) life’s journey
and before the next sun rises, with
zest and fervor kiss and make up
(05/07/17)

***
The truth about Agra -A.G. NOORANI

***

aasaaN jawab
aasaan Jawab kahaaN?
dala’ael e hayat
haiN a’yaaN o nihaaN
hay namood e hayat
harkat e qatra maiN
garmi e andaisha
mudd O jazar e aab
joostujoo e azli
sub haiN marhoon e shauq

shoraidgi e junooN
qatra-e-divaangi
shorish-e-harf-e-awwal

Easy Answers?
easy answers are not
accessible easily
the meaning of life
camouflaged well
emergence tentative
droplet’s movement
meditative passions
ebb n flow of fluids
eternal strive
LoveSupreme dependent

the passion ultimate
whirling droplets
the First Word Wrestle
(March 6, 2004)rev (05/07/17)

***

The burlap was fully intact. Not a single root had come out of it. As I peeled off the burlap, I could see tons of those roots – roots all frizzled up – roots all tangled up – roots all intertwined – roots with nowhere to go! from Sad Cypress - Beejay July 17

human body is no different...when external nourishment is denied it eats its protein to survive...but it is all futile...eventually death recycles life