Go Mushy Go - arguing with myself.

Hurricane

"ZK

:D :D

That is a brilliant post, where you support and admonish my stance with charm, beauty, grace, and tons of humor (T)

You can be the paki PM any day (T)"

Then come and join my No Lafangeybaazi Party (NLP). Let's get cracking...;)

Hurricane(T)

"I may be the lone voice in a din of anti-musharraf slogans here..." [-X

"Were it BB or NS or any other "leader", the country would have been in a terrible space."

Yes Paks have short memories but then the mithai wala needs to be in business. Why grudge him that? Or else how can we see those Aunties - do they need it? - stuff each others face with ladoos?

"Musharraf did a lot to fix some of the broken laws. He improved the economy. Interestingly, he is not corrupt, at all."(T)

Having given him the thumbs up, I suddenly remembered that he is living in style and opulence in his Presidential Palace. That's not his Baap ki Jageer, is it?:@ Then there is the question of some farm in Surr... oh never mind!

"He did put that CJ "judge" away. Yes there was a lot of political motivation to do that, but it also had to do with who the judge is ultimately playing footsey with, and what that judge is expensing as legitimate office expenses ;). Harami is as corrupt as they come."

Now now hurricane! That is going a bit too far...Isn't he the same gentleman who started this 'Civil Society' Movement? It is only due to him that more than 60 years of hard work by our fellow compatriots has not gone to waste. Baal baal buch gaey hum loug!!!

"I feel the 2 assassination attempts on mushy :(( eventually derailed him from his optimism. He became secluded and paranoid, and did a whole bunch of bad."

True that!:(( However I think that you are making excuses for him here. Other more patriotic sorts have gone for hair transplantation - ouch - and some others for a complete makeover, hair gelled back and all. Zarra ghour karo, could he not have, for the sake of his country, poured his heart out to his psychotherapist and shed a few tears?

"But Musharraf came in as the good guy. Our system collectively punished him for doing good, and then blamed him when he reacted to it."

Well said Sr Uragano!:|

"Musharraf may have been the best Pakistan got in the last 2 decades.(T)"

The best whipping boy no doubt. From people's lafangaybaazi to their patla pakhana - it's all Mushy's fault.*-)

Musharraf to this wife: Sehba, idhar aao...deykho yay tumhari vagah say mulk ka kiya haal ho gaya hai...

http://www.chowk.com/unplugged/t/51413

{"salim bhaijan, this brings us back to the same shyte..pakistan ka matlab kya. once that is clear, then the institutions to be strengthened can be chosen...should we fortify lal masjid or the crusader HQ, bangali or arbi, kashmiri or bhojpuri."}

Jang,
Meray bhai, you don't have to fortify anything - other than your age-old temptation of fishing in troubled waters. 8-|

As for Pakistan ka matlab kya tha, I didn't make it, but I inherited it. As you can see from my own approach, following the unprovoked "Happy Moharram" outrage, I did not join the exodus to South Bejeezustan like some of my friends. Instead, like Teefay, hamza, reza, Manto, krbhatti, ashtray, Ali, and many others, I chose to remain on the field of Panipat to fight the profane, the silly, and the hate-mongrels.

The institutions that Pakistanis need to fortify are the same onesthat were demolished by the successive assaults of Ayub, Yahya, Zia, Nawaz, and Mushy. We need to decide how much religion and what type of religion we want to govern our society. We need to decide how to ensure tolerance without stupidity - freedom of speech does not mean the right to call someone a "motherfucker" and expect no consequences. We need to restrict our military to protect the nation from external enemies, like those who have interfered to divide our nation into two. The judiciary cannot become an impediment to democracy or a rubber stamp for dictators - civilian or military. (T)

Harry Pi,
Very good analogy about the uljhi doar. The whole ridiculous concept of "prince charming" needs to be discarded lest "sleeping beauty" die of loneliness, boredom, waiting forever, or of exhaustion from the heavy-duty vibrator.

What Pakistan needs is the resurrection of institutions. Our judicial, legislative, military, educational, financial, and religious houses have been ransacked, defiled, and corrupted. We need dedicated professionals who can safeguard each institution against corruption and survive incompetence - just as America is going to survive eight years of Dubya. (T)

Let's rebuild those institutions and watch the clowns come and go, but the circus hall must remain sturdy and reliable.