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bubble of a believer
Gad bless Gad,
You need a good definition before you can compare things with that definition, the simple, yet powerful but a bit useless definition is let's call this thing with characteristics x,y, z and whatever else you can find as "XXX" or God.
For some amazing reason, beyond human mind's explaination, the idea of whatever exists is God or "XXX" is the only thing that can be defined without definition, everything else needs assumptions/axioms (basically this infinity to give complete context):-)
So there is one thing that exists, you chose its name and check whatever attributes/characteristics you can find (you belong to it, so you can start by defining your own self first), but whatever exists is just one.
Once people understand this all in one simple concept, they will be more willing to understand things as they really are.
So as long as a believer understands that bubble is too big for him to believe in anything useful, he/she can happily consider athiest to be his/her alter ego while keeping his belief intact (as well as infinite).
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160 Posted by TehsinA
Tehsin said this:
#150 Posted by pinku
By defining God as infinity you achieve both unity and infinite diversity and this is fantastic. Of course we can still say that the best way for humans is the golden mean i.e. central point between both these extremes. But is there time, a direction, a movement? If there is, then is God moving, is their a purpose for him moving? But he is perfect wouldn’t that affect his perfect state (moving from a perfect state would definitely be a fall i.e less then perfect).
Heck I am back in the bubble! Get me outta here.
The moment you say "infinite" it is perfect. You are missing one simple point here, "time", "change", "evolution" everything is happening with-in that infinity. Infinity itself is just infinity, no change ever. This infinity in itself, as a whole, doesn't move, doesn't change, doesn't talk, nothing. But still it embodies all those "changes", "movements" and everything else. If things were simpler than this, why will you need philosophy? :-)
You have to understand that only "infinity" is perfect, otherwise even the definition of perfect itself is not perfect. Let me know if you do not understand it.
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Of course we can still say that the best way for humans is the golden mean i.e. central point between both these extremes.
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what is central??? who needs that central, what do you know about "best"? what do you know about "perfect"? Seems you are confusing your definitions and arbitrarily assuming that something is "best".
The simplest and most powerful way to define either world or God or all you see is "infinity". A rational mind doesn't have another option except chosing name. So you can call it world, God, whatever. But the essence is "whole" and not "part" and this "whole" can probably be not known by part.
So just salute the "wholeness" of whole and think how this wholeness shows emptiness of our existence.
atheism is a God who is mostly absent
agnosticism is basically a careless God
While God in itself is the one who is trying to understand who he/she/it is....
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