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The story of Yusuf/Joseph is one of the most fascinating ones in the Holy Scriptures of the world’s leading religions. With variations, it appears in these Holy Books as a moral tale about many things. But three often unexplored sides of this great man’s story have fascinated me for a long time.
Instead of the grave wisdom of Abraham, the slight naughtiness of Moses when he banters with God, the aura of mystery around Jesus, the submission of Muhammad to God’s will (May Peace Be Upon All These Prophets of God), and so on and on, what do we get with Joseph? Joseph is the cool dude among this clan of great men (and perhaps women?) whom we call the Prophets – he is, to put it in a different way, the “rock star” of the world of Prophets!
Joseph is an easy going guy, he takes life as it comes. He has to be, being the youngest of so many older brothers. I bet there was a lot of joshing among the brothers on who got to wear what!
His coming of age story – the betrayal by his brothers and then learning to take care of himself till he reached the post of the Pharoah’s valued advisor/minister – is an exciting saga in itself. But the three things that strike me most about him apart from his fabled beauty and the woman who had a “thing” for him are not normally discussed as much.
When he was imprisoned in an Egyptian jail – and it seemed like he would be there forever and die in ignominy – he cried out to God – “Oh my Lord, Why have you forsaken me?”. I hold this sentence so very dear to my heart. So often, if you believe in God in any way, shape or form, you are told to trust Him. Be patient. That is all fine, but a human has to do what a human has to do. This crying out of Yusuf to his God (in despair? anger? demand? love?) endears Yusuf to me. I mean, God has to realize that this man, in this hardship, still BELIEVES that there is a God, and it is this God that has decided that Yusuf will be in this prison. And despite Yusuf’s anger – and hey, it is okay to be angry at God once in a while, he shows his unswerving devotion and belief in God by asking him – Why?
We are told again and again that one should obey God without question. In Arabic there are two words – Sami’na Wa Ata’na (We have heard- We will obey). But look, hear is a Prophet doing something different –he is asking God – I would not go as far as to use the word challenging – Why? And God did listen to him, didn't he? I have often thought that God’s sense of justice is ironic – He delivers poetic justice. I bet when Yusuf happened to be sitting alone after being appointed the Pharoah’s minister , he shed a few tears saying “sorry” to God - remembering how he had despaired- little knowing what God still had in store for him.
The Pharoah, for all intents and purposes, was the enemy of the people of Israel. Yet Yusuf works for him – not only works for him, but offers him his services voluntarily. When everyone is worried about the interpretation of the Pharoah’s dream and what the draught would mean for Egypt – Yusuf steps forward and volunteers himself for the job of managing the situation. If you think you have the capability to do a job well – you are the best person for it – don't be shy. Don't wait to be asked. Volunteer yourself. Put yourself forward. Yusuf volunteered himself. He said – Hey look at me. I know I can do this, and do this well. Why not let me have a go?
The other thing I learnt from this is that it is okay to work for/with other people who may have a different belief system than you, if one is working for the good of all humanity. Yusuf/Joseph worked with the Pharoah and the Egyptians to ensure enough grain was there to feed everyone – people of all denominations. He ensured he organized the financial side of things well – again benefitting the Pharoah and the people of Egypt directly, but also managing to help people of all denominations.
How does this resonate with us today? So often, I have been told that I am working for a multi-national that is owned by people of “other” denominations and so in some way, I should feel guilty. Why? Look at the story of Yusuf. What is God teaching us by telling us about him? That it is okay to join hands and work together for the greater good of all human kind with people – even under/for people- who believe something different from us. How much good would we be able to do if we could all work together to provide clean drinking water, clothing, food, education, jobs to the world’s poor, putting aside our differences.
Very often when we look at the moral stories in the scriptures, we tend to take only the spiritual side of things. We forget that these scriptures are there also to help us in our day to day life – in our dealing with other people, in how we can live together peacefully as better individuals, and as a better society.
What we must remember is – Atheists, Agnostics, Bahais, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, etc. – we are all humans. And if there is indeed a God out there and within us who created us all, then He is not happy to see us harming each other
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Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Here's something from the Qur'an:
(12:40)
"All that you worship instead of God is nothing but [empty] names which you have invented - you and your forefathers - [and] for which God has bestowed no warrant from on high. Judgment [as to what is right and what is wrong] rests with God alone - [and] He has ordained that you should worship nought but Him: this is the [one] ever-true faith; but most people know it not.
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Now perish in your rage!
ur facts r incorrect - no that this surprises anyone.
the prophet(pbuh) dicouraged zaid(ra) from divorcing
his wife.this is testified to by the quran itself. zaid
did so in spite of the prophet's advice to the contrary.
zainab(ra) was prophet's cousin, not his daughter. the prophet had sons-in-law but no daughter-in-law in his entire life.
so it is the quran's responsibility to negate what is attributed to joseph in the bible? and if it doesn't then it accepts them to be true as well.
well, according to the bible:
1. noah was sodomize by his son
2. lot had sexual intercourse with his daughters which resulted in pregnanies and children.
3. david seduced baathsheba while she was married to aother man, later sending him (the husband) on an expedition where he'd get killed (so david could marry and live with baathsheba happily everafter).
4. solomon apostatised (all his songs in the bible notwithstanding).
there is no refutation in the quran against any of these stories either ... so i expect that it is ok to sleep with one'sdaughter once in a while (as long as one is drunk).
ijtihad zindabad ...
http://truthisproven.blogspot.com/2007/02/muhammad-promised-last-prophet-in_ 18.html
I am also completely at a loss to understand what Pervez Hoodhboy has got to do with this. There are many people in the world, (more than 6 billion, as I am sure you know), and neither you nor I can keep track of the opinion of 6 billion individuals:)
About the questions of despising - I believe this question of yours has been answered by somebody else in an earlier discussion. I read that discussion with interest to see if you would respond to the person' answer, but you didnt. Instead you paste exactly the same question again here - are you intent on not leaning about Islam, and just pasting the same question again and again?
I do not feel the need to "apologise" for my religion - and almost everything u say below has a detailed answer - instead of typing it here, why dont you google the ayats you have pasted, you will find the exact context and explanation online.
I am a highly education and qualified professional, fyi, but yes I am a student of my religion as well as a student of the universe - one can never stop being a student, oh enlightened professor! If you have stopped learning as a teacher, then I feel sorry for your students!
More, your link is non functional...
You people always claim that Quran is a miracle of god, and that prophet muhammed spliced the moon LOL..
With above qualities in your religion with all these miracle - why are OIC nations (leaving GCC countries surviving on kafer technology) living in abject poverty when compared to non muslims? why your Allah-prophet (who could splice the moon) not coming to rescue? how come he sees that kafers are living better life than momeens?
And guess what - this reasoning is echoed by Pervaiz Hudboy!
####Islam has never denied that it is linked to Christianity and Judaism and indeed to all the Prophets sent by God. And ofcourse, the Old and New Testament, THe Bible and TOrah, and the Quran, talk about Prophets of GOd and other historical figures.####
So why is quran despising jews as apes and pigs? why quran maketh the distinction between the momeen and kafer (christians and jews included)? If that be the case why you muslims redicule jesus-issa and only praise prophet muhammed?
The Qur'an
The verse: O ye who believe, take not the Jews and Christians as your friends, for they are but one another's friends; ...
Everyone knows that anti-Semitism is central to the Muslim religion. Let's not be fooled by such denials as heard from those whose apology on behalf of Islam is merely a damage control effort to cover up a hate-filled reality, which is Islam. It's everywhere you look and listen on the news-- crowds on the streets in every Middle Eastern city, even in cities now in North America, UK shouting anti-Semitic rhetoric. Who doesn't see and hear this is only fooling themselves.
Since you are a student, you may not reply this professor.
Taji, thanks!
Taji, thanks!
I also find the relationship between Saul, David and Solomon very interesting...
banjara 286/tahir/rhusain - There are certain stories whcih are called "Izraeliyaats" - as I am sure you know - that is, it is generally agreed that these additions are not in agreement with the Islamic version of historical events.
The line "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?” is attributed to Jesus in two places in the Bible. (Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34). However, we know this is not true as the Quran directly refutes this version of events.
THis is also attributed to Joseph and I do not find anything in the Quran to negate it. It is said that Allah made Joseph popular among the priosoners and made him respectful and honourable in the eyes of the prison guard. I have not stated in my story that this quote comes directly out of the Quran, It may be that in the first instance of being put in prison, Joseph uttered this sentence. I must admit, by the narrative in the Quran it does appear - when looking at the conversation between Joseph and his two fellow prisoners - that Joseph's faith in his God in intact. But to me this line - Oh my Lord, why have you forsaken me - does not mean that Joseph's faith in God is waivering. Atleast I do not take it as that. When a small child argues with its mother , he knows in his heart that his mother loves him and is not giving him the thing, for axample, a sweet, because it is not good for him. Still he cries and argues. I took this statement of Joseph to God in exactly the same spirit. I must repeat - however - that I have no where stated in my writing that this line comes out of the Quran. There are many ahadees, and other narratives that form part of Islamic hisotry - such as qasas ul anbiya - for example.
-rhusain - Thank you for your comments. Regarding Sami'na Wa Ata'na I think you will find my translation is correct . It means "we hear and we obey"". The ata' is with an alif and not an Ain. And for the translation I refer you to Qur'an 2:285: "The Messenger believes what has been sent down to Him by His Lord, and all the believers believe in God, His angels, His Scriptures, and His messengers-We make no distinction between any of His Messengers-and they say: 'We hear and we obey (sami'na wa'ata'na)...."
- meenug - If my religion did not teach me kindness to all, I would call you an idiot:) I guess from your previous writing that you follow the Hindu faith, if not, forgive me. PLease see here for one of the many answers about Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him's) prediction in the Hindu scriptures. I copy this particular one because this is a rebuttal to somebody who has denied that Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) was predicted in the Hindu scriptures.
http://truthisproven.blogspot.com/2007/02/muhammad-promised-last- prophet-in_18.html
Islam has never denied that it is linked to Christianity and Judaism and indeed to all the Prophets sent by God. And ofcourse, the Old and New Testament, THe Bible and TOrah, and the Quran, talk about Prophets of GOd and other historical figures.
-quin - thanks!
First of all its haram to tag Islam along with other faiths....just check the fatwa on this from your local moulivi. Islam is the only and exclusive religion brought for the benefits of moslems - rest of the faith are spurious. Period. Check your Quran, Ahle hadeeth and sunnah. But if you are here with deceptive (Taqiyya) tactics to fool kafers as most muslims do - then keep on keeping.......LOL
Even a muslim thief is better than a honest kafer.......The prophet of Islam proclaimed that Allah has assigned the whole world to the momins. Not a patch was to be left for the kafirs to dwell......That is why the name calling of infidels a la kafer.....
Quran is corrupt n plagiarized - just check the striking similarties in the old testament and quran as in Torah and Quran.........The Quran, the central religious text of Islam, contains references to over fifty people also found in the Bible, typically in the same or similar narratives......The narratives of Joseph can be found in Genesis 37-50 and in the Qur'an 12.4-102.
Do some more research with open mind and see that Quran is a hoax.......but allah is wise LOL
(one point: main emphasis of revealed scripture was spiritual development of humanity - various devices were used to that end. The spiritual account of significant events of the time was one of them. The same should be applied to modern times to make the spiritually contained in classical scripture alive and useful for the needs of the day)
can i have that please. and, btw, thanks; i like to think that i can think as well as the next guy...
A minor point: Sami’na Wa Ata’na..means hear us and give us, I am assuming ata'na is ain Taa and not alif Taa ain. latter would mean obey us!...nasma'a would mean we hear...
Prophets KNEW their Creator intimately through the signs (Arabic: ayahs) He provided and through direct revelation; they neither got ANGRY! Yes, they had minor doubts and fears sometimes because they were all human beings after all; but then their belief was exceptionally strong too.
"Joseph is the cool dude"..."Joseph is an easy going guy."
It would be wise to sound respectful and serious when speaking or writing about a Prophet, we are not talking about Michael Jackson here! This is the only thing that separates US from THEM.
Surah Yusuf is a mindboggling account of the moral depravity practised by the high society of Egypt. Pay special attention to the ladies’ overtures!
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