Please, make it simple...

Tahmed sahib
I guess you're missing the whole point of this topic. Let me make it simpler for you.

When you're saying that those so called Muslims who violate Quran for their own motives should be considered non Muslims as well. I already told you we can't consider them NON Muslims b/c their identity is Muslim, yes they are considered the worst of the human kinds as sinner Muslim.

Here we are not discussing who is sinner and who is NOT.
Ahmedis/Mirzais/Qadianis can be the best of humans and trust me , my best friend used to be the daughter of a Mirzai religious leader, but she was the nicest of the human being. No doubt about it.
But, again like I said, we are not pointing who should be sinner and who shouldn't be?

All I am saying is , if, Mirzais follow Mr.Mirza's teachings and consider him as their prophet, with all due respect nobody can stop them from doing so. They should be proud of their own identity as Mirzais.

And trust me, I am not humiliating Mirzais here, I respect each and every religion open heartedly and I do believe that every religion should be practiced with equal freedom and respect.

Like I stated earlier, Muslims do believe in Jesus Christ and Moses, but, they are Not identified as Jews or as Christians, b/c Jews and Christians don't follow our Prophet's preachings and don't consider HIM as their last Prophet.

We as Muslims could have very easily said, oh, well, we're Muslim Christians or Muslim Jews, but, we don't state that b/c that doesn't make any sense, and that's the main reason we identity ourselves as Muslims. Simple.