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Does deleting the word "Scoutie" on computer ends her existence?? - the fallacious propaganda of Umm Sulaym bint Milhan

Posted: Mar 4, 2009 Wed 05:30 pm     Views: 330    Interacts: 10

The Story of Umm Sulaym bint Milhan-

Do you believe that the story is a true one? And that even if it happened it is propagandist and full of fallacies?

First, when she said that "O Abu Talhah, do you not know that your god whom you worship is just a tree that grew in
the ground and was carved into shape by the slave of Banu so-and-so."

No mushrique would say "Ofcourse."

On the other hand this is a complete false portrayal of an Idolator's faith. It is like asking a black person that "Do you know that your heart is black from inside" . and the black person saying "Ofcourse"

Read the mushrique though properly before you fall into the Islamic semantic trap for unsuspecting muslims where the representation/icon/idol is equated with the reference to outside the deity.

To mistake "scoutie" with scoutie shows a lack of understanding regarding an icon and its real representation.

This is another islami propaganda aimed at ensuring that muslimas do not marry outside Islam and marry ONLY for Allah instead of for marrying-for-love or marrying-for-companionship. It is another story aimed to completely control the thoughts and emotions of muslimas by the bedoiun code.

I am sure modern day muslimas just laugh off this story.

In the story the so called ideal muslima said to her mushrique suiter-

""O Abu Talhah, do you not know that your god whom you worship was carved by the
carpenter slave of so-and-so? If you were to set it alight, it would burn."

Now , does anyone in his right mind would think that if I delete the word "scoutie" now would also end scoutie's existence??

if I burn the word "scoutie" written on a book , scoutie would be annihilated in real life as well??

come on give us all a break!!

Why can't educated muslim see through this propaganda against poor non muslim mushrique?


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Posted by krish_cost on Saturday April 18, 2009 06:20 am
Who cares about all this, the taliban are coming and are going to rule all of pakistan. then talibanism will spread to india and all hindus will be forced into dhimitude. therefore i say , send all the remaining muslims to pakistan. if it gets too crowded, give them kashmir too. but remove them from india and let them enjoy their sharia in pakistan .
Posted by laddu on Friday March 6, 2009 02:52 pm
This is clearly a redacted text in which the so -called prophesy about Mohamad was added during moghul period when the forced conversion using sword and such propaganda was at its peak.

Hindus do not accept these redacted texts .


we do not consider mohamad as a 'prophet' or any person who deserves our respect.

He was a murdered and a looter who is responsible for the current Islamic mess.

I request you to reject him and accept "Allah" like he is described in the Vedas.
Posted by Nadeem_Shahzad on Thursday March 5, 2009 07:11 pm
Laddu,

I am not saddened that you have used all the unsavory remarks for Mohammed PBUH , But what saddens me is your own ignorance about the Hindu Faith that you are using. You see it is one this to hate someone out of ignorance, it is totally another that even upon knowing ones ignorance to keep insisting that they are right. Do you Know that Mohammed PBUH is also mentioned in your Hindu Scriptures?...Do you know or should I englighten you on that too...

Here Learn again and come out of Ignorance!!!

The translation of Verses 5-27 (Sanskrit text of the Puranas, Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3) is presented below from the work of Dr. Vidyarthi.

“A malechha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mahamad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Mahadev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the 'Panchgavya' and the Ganges water, (i.e. purging him of all sins) offered him the presents of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, 'I make obeisance to thee.' 'O Ye! the pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malechha opponents (idol worshipers, pagans).' ‘O Ye! the image of the Most Pious God the biggest Lord, I am a slave to thee, take me as one lying on thy feet.'

“The Malechhas have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in that country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed [note: e.g., Abraha Al-Ashram, the Abyssinian viceroy of Yemen, who attacked Mecca]; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance the well-known Mahamad (Mohammad), who has been given by me the epithet of Brahma is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja! You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of a Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of ‘Ashwar Parmatma (God, Supreme Spirit), I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat-eaters. My follower will be a man circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution, announcing call for prayer and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. Because of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmans (Muslims). I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nation."

The compiler of the Puranas, Mahrishi Vyasa, is highly honored among the Hindus as a great rishi and learned person. He was a pious and God fearing man. He also wrote the Gita and the Maha Bharat. Among the eighteen volumes of the Puranas is one by the title ‘Bhavishya Puran,’ literally meaning future events. The Hindus regard it as the Word of God. The prophecy containing Prophet Muhammad by name is found in Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3, Verse 5.

Posted by laddu on Thursday March 5, 2009 05:38 pm
Nadeem ji,

If you believe that Vedas talk about your Allah, then why do you not reject kalima and dispose off the baggage of getting hassled trying to justify that paedophile, bandit and rapist all the time!!

Get a janeyu and accept the call to Sanathan Dharma.
Posted by Nadeem_Shahzad on Thursday March 5, 2009 01:52 pm
Laddu,
I guess I have to enlighten you about your own Hindu Religion now
Read and Learn

THE VEDAS
Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas:
Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.

The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:
"na tasya pratima asti
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5

"shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6

"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7

Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
[Yajurveda 40:16]8

The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:
"Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

"Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3

The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:

"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."
"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4

So Laddu, if you are insisting the God must be in form in order to be worshipped than that it is no longer a God because the minute you are able to picture the shape and form of God than you make God Un Godly even under your own Scripture. So when you quoted the event about Umm Sulaym bint Milhan
Where she say that "O Abu Talhah, do you not know that your god whom you worship is just a tree that grew in the ground and was carved into shape by the slave of Banu so-and-so." Here she is conveying Isalmic/Hindu message that God is Formless and to give it a shape and form is an Insult to God.

Now the Same message in Quran from Allah (SW)

Qul ho Allah hu Ahad
Say Allah is one
Allah Hu Samad
He is Absoulte and Eternal
Lum Yalid Walum Yu Lud
No one borne him neither he bare any one
Wa lum Yakun La hu kufu one Ahad
There is none like him and he is one of a kind

All you have to do is recite the Kalima now and become our Brother
Posted by laddu on Thursday March 5, 2009 05:09 am
tahir and all the mullahs,
I will delete "tahir" and he would be wiped out of existence after that........

Now do you believe that......
Posted by tahir on Thursday March 5, 2009 04:34 am
Correction, read that: 'thanks FOR the comedy though.'
Posted by Akbarhussain on Thursday March 5, 2009 02:39 am
Laddu, when is your next appointment?
Posted by tahir on Thursday March 5, 2009 01:17 am
Don't trip over yourself objecting to the clear injunctions of the Qur'an regarding whom Muslims ought to marry!

We're the ones who are laughing; thanks of the comedy though.
Posted by akcheema on Wednesday March 4, 2009 11:08 pm
Laddu ... did you know scoutie worships 'Kaali'! ... ask her if you don't believe me

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