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Pakistan moved half of its Army

Posted: May 4, 2009 Mon 08:53 pm     Views: 806    Interacts: 8

Largest movements after 2nd word war – Pakistan moved half of its Army

By: Earthman, International Professor

Pakistan army has moved 250000 troops towards Western borders and it has withdrawn almost 70% of its troops from Eastern borders with which were deputed with Indian boundaries and line of control at Kashmir. Most troops have been deployed in NWFP and FATA areas. Majority of strategic points considered to be life line of Pakistan have been left without any guard. First time in the history Pakistan after 1947 Army has trusted its old rivals. After removal of its forces hundreds of miles long borders have been left on the mercy of Indian forces. Whereas almost 80,000 additional troops are busy in Baluchistan areas.

Kashmir, Punjab and parts of Sindh are now entirely dependent on pity of Mike Mullen, who is defecto Field Marshall of NATO, ISAF and Pakistan Army. Pakistani top soldiers Gen Tariq Majeed, Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani and Gen Shuja Pasha have settled work under his command and have pledged to forget disputes of Kashmir, Kargal, Siachen, Sar creek, River waters and all other issues with India forever.

Pakistan’s nuclear program has been rolled back and funding to all research projects has been curtailed to a limit that except salaries of staff nothing can be materialized. It was an old dream of Mush and Benazir which has finally reached to its destiny. (See Mr. Ansar Abbasi’s reports published in Daily News and Daily Jang last week). Moreover Army high command has disclosed secret location of nuclear weapons for the sake of forthcoming $ 1.5 billion per year stipend.

Asif Zardari was bound to accept such plans as nucleus to forget forgiveness of $ 1.5 billion looted money and NRO was specifically designed to meet Anglo-American ambitions, his statements against Kashmir are on records. So his bed fellows including Rahman Malik, Hussain Haqqani, Abdullah Hussain Haroon, Altaf Hussain, Maulana Fazal, and Asfandyar Wali were deputed to build grounds. Mian Nawaz Shariff was main hurdle in the removal of army from eastern borders but since PML N has received secret assurances, and welcomed in Anglo-American club, so entire PML N is busy in anxiously watching CNN and FOX news channels for fresh assignments. In the absence of any political resistance Gen Kiyani found no difficulty to implement Anglo-American agenda. US administration has also agreed to disburse $ 400 million for the basic salaries and expenses of Pak army to shut mouths of all generals.

Government has put pearls in the mouths of media and greedy media has broken records of self censorship. Propaganda of DG ISPR, Rahman Malik, Altaf Hussain, Farhanaz Ispahani and Hussain Haqqani is clearly forecasting shape of next civil war which would be fought on Iraqi style sectarian war. Millions of dollars have been distributed to different fundamentalists’ organization. Now Pakistan army is working under direct command of Field Marshall Mike Mullen, who will also be responsible for salaries of Pak army.

Pak army has either moved entire following divisions or parts of that:

6th Armored Division, 17th infantry Division from Kharian

37th infantry Division Gujranwala, 40th infantry Division Okara

11th infantry Division Lahore, 12th infantry Division Murree

19th Infantry Division Mangla, 23rd infantry Division Jhelum

7th infantry Division Peshawar, 9th infantry division Kohat

8th and 15th infantry Division Sialkot

Para Military forces operating under command of Pak army:

National guards, Frontier Corpse

Chitral Scouts, Khyber Rifles, Swat Levies, Kurram Militia,

Tochi Scouts, South Waziristan Scouts, Gilgit Scouts

SSG (Special Services group) Commandos

Out of six battalions, four have been deployed and last week during a major operation almost a battalion was dropped by choppers in Buner areas.

Armors and heavy equipment

Unloading and movements of tanks, artillery, mortars, armored personal carriers, and self propellers were seen in those areas.

Aviation

Cobra helicopters, transport helicopters, air to surface Missiles, and Guided bombs have been used and reported.

Complete list of Generals who are directly involved in current Civil War:

Out of 180 Generals, at least 56 are directly involved in current civil war, whereas on the basis of media reports following generals have been divided in three categories.

First category of prequalified generals who are willing to fight crusade

General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Chief of Army Staff

Maj Gen Javed Iqbal, DG Military Operations, GHQ.

Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha, DG ISI, Islamabad

Maj Gen Athar Abbas, DG ISPR, JS HQ.

General Tariq Majid, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee

AM Noman Bashir, Chief of Air Staff

Lt Gen Tahir Mahmood, Commander X Corps, Rawalpindi.

Maj Gen Muhammad Asif, DG Military Intelligence, GHQ.

Maj Gen Syed Taqi Naseer Rizvi, DG Army Aviation, GHQ.

Lt Gen M Masood Aslam, Commander XI Corps, Peshawar. (Colonel Commandant of the Punjab Regiment)

Maj Gen Naweed Zaman, GOC 7th Infantry Division, Peshawar. (Division operating in Peshawar region and its vicinity)

Maj Gen Khalid Rabbani, GOC 9th Infantry Division, Kohat. (Division operating in Kohat District and its vicinity)

Maj Gen Muzammil Hussain, Commander Force Command Northern Areas, Gilgit.

Maj Gen Nasser Khan Janjua, GOC 17th Infantry Division, Kharian. (Division operating in Swat District since November 2007)

Second category is consists of most generals who have firm belief on crusade but their status of prequalification is not known

Maj Gen Niaz Muhammad Khan Khattak, Deputy DG ISI

Maj Gen Rashad Mahmood, Deputy DG ISI,

Maj Gen Tariq Mahmood, Deputy DG ISI, ISI

Maj Gen Mohammad Zahirul Islam, Deputy DG ISI

Maj Gen Mumtaz Ahmad Bajwa, Deputy DG ISI

Maj Gen Tanveer Ullah Khan, GOC Army Aviation Command, Rawalpindi.

Lt Gen Nadeem Ahmad, Commander I Strike Corps, Mangla.

Lt Gen Sikandar Afzal, Commander II Strike Corps, Multan.

Lt Gen Ijaz Ahmed Bakhshi, Commander IV Corps, Lahore.

Lt Gen Muhammad Ashraf Saleem, Commander Army Air Defense Command.

Lt Gen Shahid Niaz, Engineer n Chief of Pak Army.

Lt Gen Shujaat Zamir Dar, Chairman POF, Wah Cantt.

Lt Gen Mohsin Kamal, Military Secretary (MS), GHQ.

Lt Gen Nadeem Taj, Commander XXX Corps, Gujranwala.

Lt Gen Muhammad Mustafa Khan, CGS, GHQ.

Maj Gen Mir Haider Ali, Additional Secretary, Ministry of Defense.

Maj Gen Asif Akhtar, DG National Guards (NG).

Maj Gen Syed Khalid Amir Jaffery, DG ANF, Min of Interior.

Maj Gen Shaukat Sultan, DG Foreign Military Coop, JS HQ.

Maj Gen Qasim Qureshi, DG Operations & Plans, JS HQ.

Maj Gen Zawar Hussain Shah, DG Ordnance Services, GHQ.

Maj Gen Muhammad Alam Khattak, DCGS, GHQ.

Maj Gen Shafqaat Ahmed, GOC 10th Infantry Division, Lahore.

Maj Gen Nasir Mahmood, Aviation

Maj Gen Asif Yasin Malik, DG Joint Intelligence & Information Operations, JS HQ.

Maj Gen Muhammad Haroon Aslam, GOC Special Service Group, Cherat.

Maj Gen Waheed Arshad, Vice Chief of General Staff (VCGS), GHQ.

Maj Gen Ulfat Hussain, DG DESTO, DESTO HQ, Rawalpindi.

Maj Gen Syed Shakeel Hussain, Vice Military Secretary (VMS), GHQ.

Maj Gen Ghulam Mustafa Kausar, Deputy DG ISI, ISI HQ, Islamabad.

Maj Gen Sohail Shafkat, DG Supply and Transport, GHQ.

Maj Gen Azhar Ali Shah, DG ISSRA at NDU Islamabad.

Maj Gen Tariq Khan, IG Frontier Corps, Peshawar.

Maj Gen Jahangir Khan, DG Infantry, GHQ.

Maj Gen Khadim Hussain, GOC 23rd Infantry Division, Jhelum.

Maj Gen Kaleem Saber Taseer, Commdt, School of Artillery, Nowshera.

Maj Gen Mohammad Ijaz Chaudhry, GOC 14th Infantry Division, Okara. (Division operating in the southern NWFP including the Waziristan region)

Maj Gen Mohammad Saeed Aleem, GOC 8th Infantry Division, Sialkot.

Maj Gen Muhammad Nawaz, GOC 40th Infantry Division, Okara.

Maj Gen Raza Mohammad, GOC 11th Infantry Division, Lahore.

Maj Gen Maqsood Ahmad, GOC 12th Infantry Division, Murree. (It was deployed near Line of control now moved)

Lt Gen Raza Muhammad Khan, DG Joint Staff, JS HQ,

Lt Gen Shafaat Ullah Shah, Chief of Logistics Staff (CLS), GHQ.

Third category mostly consists of mixed generals, a few are exceptionally professional, and some are enjoying only salaries and benefits or some are waiting for retirement, so remaining generals are speculated to be included in last category.

To cut short due to length of report please note that Lt. Gen R S Athar Ali is also a prequalified general of Mush era, who has been appointed as Secretary Defense by Zardari.





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Posted by RiazHaq on Tuesday May 5, 2009 07:32 am
Knowing everything I know about Pakistan and its military, this "Earthman" report makes no sense. The entire raison d'ertre for the large Pak Army is to defend against India....not fight counter-insurgency. Besides, the kind of size, training, equipment and weaponry that the regular army has are not at all suitable to fight in the terrain where the Taliban threat exists. It would require a substantial reorientation/restructuring of the military to operate in smaller, more nimble and lightly armed units with air support from helicopter gunships. But I think there may be a substantial increase in SSG commando units who'd be deployed along with FC and various militias..kind of death squads used in Central and Latin America by US allies.

I tend to think that about 15-20% of the army moving makes sense...particularly the following:


Para Military forces operating under command of Pak army:

National guards, Frontier Corpse

Chitral Scouts, Khyber Rifles, Swat Levies, Kurram Militia,

Tochi Scouts, South Waziristan Scouts, Gilgit Scouts

SSG (Special Services group) Commandos

But even 15-20% is a big ..it's more than 100, 000 troops...so I expect more fighting, more civilian casualties which could backfire for both Pak and US and increase support for the Taliban.
Posted by RiazHaq on Tuesday May 5, 2009 05:00 am
There are some serious questions being raise about who "Earthman" really is. The speculation is that it's a pseudonym for someone with al Qaeda or Taliban sympathies.

http://letusbuildpakistan.blogspot.com/2008/11/internet-crime-alert-watch-th is-man.html
Posted by nadeem1886 on Tuesday May 5, 2009 01:18 am
Asurd, rubbish. You seem to have no knowldge about Pakistan army or military history and yet are writing about army's deployment.

Right from the start you have been 100 % incorrect, what to talk about half of Pakistan army but even if full Pakistan army is moved, it will be not the second niggest move after World War II, During WW-I let alone Russia had over 15 armies comprising of a total of 20 Million men through out the war. Pakistan just has one single army. To put you correct, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War were the biggest movement of armies after WW-2.

Around 15% of Pakistan army has moved to it's western borders. FC, Rangers are not part of army but para-military forces also called second line troops.

What u have written about the Generals is all bull-shit.

This is no crusade, we have got to realise that this war is our war and not a war we are fighting for the US. If we don't impose writ of the govt and let the these crazy Talibans do whatever they want to, we are history then and would soon dis-integrate.

War in Afghanistan and on our western bordrrs is about drug money and war lords in Afghanistan and inocents are being dragged into it on the name of religion.

we just have 10 Billion Dollars of Foreign Reserves (FR), of which 4 Billion were given by IMF on loan recently, otherwise we would have defaulted. There are only 3 ways of buildng FR
1. Exports, we are earning very less (Lack of electriciy and gas is closing down our factories and India, China, BanglaDesh have taken over our tradional export of crops)
2. Dirext Foreign Investment , we have almost negligable (the doings of the taliban is stopping foreigners from investing here)
3. Foreign remitance by oversees Pakisatanis, that is our only source, but it is also drifted to other ventures like Dubai in the past.

India did not attack Pakistan after mumbai carnage, only because war was a 50/50 preposition but India has seen that economicaly it can destroy us. India is behind happenings in Swat and Baluchistan, thus defaming us internationaly and stopping Foreign investment and Inida has taken over our tradional crop export, thus India is choking us economicaly.

Other non stage actors are trying to force their wish on Pakistan and Lashkar Taiba was beind Mumbai attacks and attack on the Sri Lankan team, they this way wanted Pakistan and India to engage in war, which they think is the way for Kashmir's liberation.

If we let the Taliban do whatever they want to, thinking that they mean no harm to us and are only fighting against the US for Islam, then we are fools.

Posted by majumdar on Tuesday May 5, 2009 12:50 am
Tahir mian,

What wrong have the Afghans done?

Regards
Posted by tahir on Tuesday May 5, 2009 12:18 am
The Afghan behavior was beautifully summarised in a Persian couplet which read as "Sar buridan pesh in sangin dilan qul chidan ast" (These stone hearted people thought no more of cutting of heads than of plucking a flower).
Posted by tahir on Tuesday May 5, 2009 12:17 am
Let's collectively pray for the complete destruction of our trans-Atlantic sponsors.

And FreeHussaini, walk your dog on the wrong side of Kahuta....
Posted by freehussaini on Monday May 4, 2009 09:37 pm
Good news. Pakistan army was wasting time on a quiet border.

Mike Mullen is a competent and experienced commander.

Rolling back the nuclear program is not enough. The nuclear arsenal and capability will have to be eliminated, completely.
Posted by majumdar on Monday May 4, 2009 09:14 pm
Maulana Diesel,

If this is true, then it is good news!!!

Regards

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