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Could I Handle Two?

Atif December 7, 2005

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#20 Posted by atif2 on December 7, 2005 10:50:02 am
scout #18 ``this article is not `humorous` at all..... more like an entry from a horny teenager`s blog``

Scout, you are right...on both counts. It wasnt intended to be funny. It is a factual analysis of having sex with two girls. It illustrates that since pleasure is a function of actual touch as well as anticipation of touch, it is very hard to enjoy when your mind is getting distracted with multiple unsynchronized touches. Contrary to what they show you in group sex movies, reality turned out to be much different.

As for the horny part, I am not sure why you state it in a contemptuous manner. After all, it is a natural human instinct. In fact, if a person cant get horny, he/she has a chemical imbalance for which he/she should see a doctor. So Scout, we should be very thankful that we all have the ability to get horny, pretty much on demand.

Thank you for your comment...
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#19 Posted by TheFlatLanders on December 7, 2005 10:42:42 am
This is a very insightful article. I found it a good, honest appraisal of an important question.

I was hoping to understand why we have two of some organs and one of others. Maybe there is some new information there.

Also, if women think any differently? Seems they do based on responses here.
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#18 Posted by scout on December 7, 2005 10:35:29 am
this article is not `humorous` at all..... more like an entry from a horny teenager`s blog

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#17 Posted by HP on December 7, 2005 10:19:49 am
Faisal,

Atif’s reply #15 is interesting but I am going to surprise you even more. Hijira in Pakistani cities are essentially masseurs! They provide this service to many men in low income neighborhoods. Some professional women (not office workers) learn and provide massage services too.

To answer your other questions I would say that mostly in the subcontinent life is different and what I wrote basically goes with the society that I live in now. My attitude in Pakistan would be different not because I have dual standards but my SO’s rep would be at stake if she uses a man for massage.

Jealousy imo, is another name for claiming ownership or possession. Swinging or even massage parlors thrive in the US because lots of people have overcome their instinct to claim ownership of every thing close to them. In Pakistani, Indian or mostly Asian societies, women are still equated as property thus the problem with ownership and control come into play.

For woman in the West, it is important to show some control (jealousy) at the initiation of the relationship. This gives a clear message of high interest and care. But over time you need to achieve a comfort zone to make a relationship successful. For women from our part of the world, it is much more complex. They appreciate some jealousy and control but they are mostly looking for someone who can provide protection or are a sort of father figure. They forego jealousy when it comes down to protection. Men in our part of the world certainly take advantage of it.

Currently, Massage is a huge fad in the US and imo, it would be good business to own a franchise of a massage parlor.

Here is a joke for you..

A husband and wife were having Dinner at a restaurant, a gorgeous blond walks in and gives a full mouth kiss to the husband and asks for the time to meet him. After she leaves, the stunned Wife asks, “wooohoo whats going on here? who is this bimbo?” Husband calmly replies she is his mistress. Wife is now completely upset…ask for separation…Husband says that is fine but remember after the divorce no trips to Paris for shopping, no parties and no expensive jewelry…remember the prenups…you don’t get anything….Wife shuts her mouth. A few minutes later a family friend enters the restaurant with a gorgeous, voluptuous woman in his arms….Now the wife asks who this woman with him is. Husband tells her this is his mistress…wife thinks for a second and then says “our mistress is better looking.”


#16 I like little pleasures in life....Once a month is good...


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#16 Posted by ZahraJ on December 7, 2005 9:48:38 am
Massage is indeed a great pleasure for the mind, body and spirit. I am a little surprised that the writer ended up realizing that in Venezuela. I am sure you can find many spas in your area (in the US) that offer different techniques of massages - reflexology, swedish, shiatsu, sports, deep tissue and lumi lumi. Often times, the local sports clubs have their own massage therapists. They specialize in sports and deep tissue massages. You can get a good deal as a member. The world would have been boring and incomplete without a good masseuse and different forms of massage. I won`t ever go to someone who is not certified. After all, you would like to come out of a session in one piece. I disagree with hp that you should have a massage once a month. It all depends on your life style.
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#15 Posted by atif2 on December 7, 2005 9:30:24 am
kulharee #13 - ``Atif, working on your big beer belly, the girls were also probably thinking of having sex with 2 men at the same time. ``

Evidence proved otherwise. Not only that the two girls walked on their own free will to my sofa, they also exchanged several smiles with me during the course of massage as I alternated between groans, grunts and giggles.

Faisal # 14 - ``btw i wonder what are the options for a massage in pak?``

Fortunately, there are. Unfortunately, they mostly include men. Barbers in many punjab cities would also do head & shoulder massage. And many barbers, when they are not busy circumcising in their part time, also work as ``malushia``. Although it seems a bit dosconcerting, but many men in punjab do occassionaly employ malushias.
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#14 Posted by faisaluno on December 7, 2005 9:12:12 am

hp, you raise some interesting points. i certainly had not thought about women wanting massages as well esp pak women who dont seem to be into these sort of things. would`nt bother me though if they were cause i am not a jealous type of a guy. otoh, women i have gone out with have generally interpreted my lack of jealousy the wrong way and have given me grief over it. i guess you cant win with pak women however hard you try.

btw i wonder what are the options for a massage in pak? i certainly have not heard of massage parlour where men can get massages from women. i bet such an establishment would do good business if it were to open in karachi. however some restrictions would have to be put on the clientele cause no one wants to watch a bunch of hairy memon men lounging around in their towels.
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#13 Posted by Kulharee on December 7, 2005 8:50:34 am
Atif, working on your big beer belly, the girls were also probably thinking of having sex with 2 men at the same time.

What part of your body were you getting a haricut on?
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#12 Posted by HP on December 7, 2005 8:38:52 am

I doubt that any man would allow a masseur to touch his body. It has to be exclusively a masseuse. Nobody needs wife’s permission for a massage unless the purpose of getting a massage is sexual gratification.
Now the question is whether a man would have problems with his wife getting a massage from a man. I have not known any woman who prefers a masseuse but women generally would not be as decidedly averse to it as men are to masseur.

To me this is how it works; if you don’t have a problem with your wife getting a massage from a masseur then there is no reason for the wife to prohibit it. It basically boils down to how comfortable you are in relationship.

For men certainly there are many more places to extend the pleasure. Men do go to places they don’t wanna talk about with their wives and I think it is more being discreet than being not faithful. Mostly Massage is a one way act and once you go there you will understand it.

Atif, there is more to it than just dropping pants in a doctor’s office. I think now that you have tasted it you need to extend it and then you would realize how good it is for your body and soul.

A gentle touch from the opposite sex is the biggest pleasure all relationships boil down to (exceptions excluded). The more hands you can get on your body….



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#11 Posted by faisaluno on December 7, 2005 8:04:40 am

what if your wife refuses you permission for a massage and wont give you one either? what options do you have then especially if you are homophobic and dont want a male masseur to come you?

once again this is a hypothetical although not the homophobic part.
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#10 Posted by atif2 on December 7, 2005 7:50:58 am
HP # 6 - you read it right. Indeed it was my first massage - something that left an indelible mark on my life. when going gets really tough in Boston, I often find solace in reminiscing the day when I became the object of attention for two girls. Although I did not get much pleasure out of it, I sincerely hope that the experience left two girls fully satisfied.
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#9 Posted by atif2 on December 7, 2005 7:47:31 am
faisal #7 asks ``i would like to find out if its kosher for married men to get massage from women who are not their wives? ``

Faisal, unless you are going to massage for what HP seems to be suggesting, then although it might be more ``fulfilling``, it may not be kosher. However, if you are going to massage from a physical therapy perspective, then it would be same as you going to see a lady doctor.

Now I know, I wouldnt have any issues if a lady doctor sees me. Frankly, thats the only time I can drop my pants in front of a lady and not get slapped. Although I do get a lecture that its not necessary to drop pants when all you in is for sore throat and flu check.
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#8 Posted by HP on December 7, 2005 7:26:19 am
Faisea,
good question.

I don’t think that getting massages changes the marriage vows. I hope you understand that the first purpose of the massage is to relieve stress and a good massage allows you to relax in every which way. Massage is not a sexual activity but it does provide the stimulation that body needs.

If you visit any upscale massage place you will find them crowded with married men/women of all ages. I think if you visit quality places then your marriage is safe but if you are continuously visiting seedy places then there is a problem in your marriage and you need to work on it.



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#7 Posted by faisaluno on December 7, 2005 7:08:46 am

this has nothing to do with my marital status but i would like to find out if its kosher for married men to get massage from women who are not their wives?
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#6 Posted by HP on December 7, 2005 6:57:27 am
Atif,

It seems it was your first experience of a massage. Any massage which is not full body and less then 1 hour, imo, is not a massage at all.
I would recommend you start getting regular massage at least once a month. It does not cost a whole lot and you don’t have to worry about controlling your emotions sexual and otherwise. Some masseuse would be very helpful.

There are some seedy places too but Chinese girls are not bad. Try a few and then report back and I will give you more hints. I think people need to enjoy life if they can afford too.

My best massage was in Huntsville, Alabama...That chines girl was really...



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#5 Posted by Bina_Shah on December 7, 2005 6:30:48 am
LOL
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