SAARC Syndrome: Asia's Burden

Oneway out is have NonIndia SAARAC.
Meetings of two people can be useful. More than two participant meetings are useless always. As in such meetings mostly people come to conclusion that nothing can be done in this meeting and so they should have next meeting.

We are giving too much importance to India. We can other NONINDIA blocks. Pakistan , Nepal, Bangladesh can be strong block.

Really we should look westwards as people of common faith and different than hindu faith. Now famous people like EX IRP Bengali PM said about Ummah o+o+o+o=....= BIG Zero.
That is not right, there is always one ummah dominating that is Hindu Ummah. That hindu Ummah is not known like that but is reality is Hindu Ummah. So different people, langangue, creed, culture, color, food, cloth very dissimilar are commected by cocept of Ummah.

Pakistan should look and envision for United Muslims States (UMS). Our leadership has wasted time in SAARAC, there can not be Ummah of hindu India, Buddhist Lanka, Muslim IRP and BD. We can be neighbour but friendship is unislamic concept and nonworkable. If it was possible then we will have not pakistan.We should look westwestward to form great MUSLIM Block from North Africa to east west of Japan. This UMS wil have more than 63% of exportable oil in world and more army under commands than India and if armaments will out did india anytime. In UMS IRP can be leading nation due to its unique position and can act as arm of UMS. Most educated and powerful masses of people. Western desert oils of Iraq, Iran and KSA combined with manpower of IRP citizen can make miracles. Presently kashmir problem is stagnating and not necessarily in our favor. All sacrafice made for that cause have not gone anywhere and division country has occured at disadvantage.
Generals have lost faith in themselves and abandoned path of achievement than just giving concessions as people of country are ready to make sacrafice and solve problems and keep India out of misery.
Its necessary to deafeat India on battlefield and then problem will be solved as per our wishes. Then only army can regain its honor, armies regain honors by defeating enemy and putting humilating conditions or otherside not by peaceful resoutions of confidence building measures.
Otherwise we will loose like Egypt and Jordan. Both faught for PLO and were humilated and they were abandoned by PLO. Jorden lost Westbank. There is danger we may loose Kashmir and all sacrafices will go to drains. Indians have not budged on single point. What is point in talking ?. This crossing and opening of border will lead to damage to pakistan in spirit. Why not do same with all Muslim Ummah with Iran and all arab countries. We are paying for f-16, there are hundreds of F-16 with KSA, turkey, if ummah takes place all arsanel will be available against india.
The way things are going, opening railline can result in problems in Sindh as RAW agaents will use that as conduit for spy pumpings. Now some hot heads are talking about United Kashmir State. Then they will start water usage as they want and it will be detrime3ntal to water projects in our countrry.
Talking to India is waste of time instead if war preparation goes can lead to peace. It is sad they have decided to sell kashmir as they sold 3 rivers.
This concept of SAARAC is faulty , its like poison tree and it will have bitter fruits. Close this unnecessary SAARAC drama.

Re: # 16 ahmedmadani

``Pakistan should look and envision for United Muslims States (UMS)``

Don`t just envision, take some steps to implement it.

Should it be the union of Pakistan-Afghanistan first or Pakistan-Bangladesh?

Re: # 20

At this time Arabs are rich but mentally its backward and selfish society. By all measures even though IRP is poor arab social structure is too backward and they can not be drag forced in modern times as they are rich. The problem is that they are selfish and they will not go for union at this time as they do not want to share wealth with poor nations. There should be cultural change, presently they only care about merchantile not about brotherhood. But who nows about future, they may become advanced modern society like Europe and America.

Re: # 20

IRP has no interest to get connected with problems. Afghanistan is failed country, Bangla Desh is lost cause. They may just get chance to pack bihari due to recism. That can create problems in sindh. I mean to get in more near to oil rich great countries. Which need amnpower and international leadership and enlightenwd moderation. IRP is in position to do that.

I wonder what the Editor-in-Chief of chowk has to say about it all ? The `hindu mentality` thing ? The fact that such an article gets published on chowk reveals a lot about her mentality.

Ranger
Spare me at least your faux outrage- my ears are still ringing with your posts on more than one website about the Indian Muslim mentality.

By the way...this article with the money quote `hindu mentality` was written in a supposedly mainstream magazine/newspaper in Pakistan by a supposedly mainstream and probably a so-called moderate Pakistani journalist.Says a lot about these people.

Hamid...what to do...its the Hindu mentality at work...

Just like EU imposes conditions that countries bring their legal political and financial systems in line with EU guidelines to qualify for EU membership, similarly India must begin imposing such conditions on its neighbours as a condition for doing business with them.

That might be the way to deal with the `Muslim mentality` in operation in some of these neighbours.

(Now watch the hypocritical whiners jump on me for using exactly the words that an editor-approved author on chowk uses).

``Pakistan wants to be open and frank in dealing with all issues while India, may be in line with Hindu mentality, wants to be secretive and confidential. ``

What is Hindu mentality?
Are Hindus monsters in Pakistani psyche?

I remember one anecdote Saed Naqvi related in his column when India Pak relations began to thaw. He was a guest in a Pakistani home along with one of his Hindu friends. One morning he was cornered by the kid of his guest who incredulously asked him, ”Why are you moving around with that man? He is a Hindu?”

Re: # 10
``Hindu Mentality`` has created a lot of fuss and has taken over the main theme of the article. Hindu mentality is referred to the most extremist outfits in India whose doubtful credentials as well as crimes against humanity are manifest even to Hindu masses. The problem arises when the mainstream Hindu leaders unwittingly fall in lines with these outfits and go against their own national interest. As it has happened on the question of Kashmir which has made as territorial disputes completely ignoring the fact that the issue has overriding humanitarian moorings affecting the lives of millions of people in the region. What is holding candid Hindu leaders back from solving a humanitarian issue of gigantice nature in the region?

Re: # 97

kab tak ho tumhara suKhan-e-talKh gavaaraa
is zahar meN kitnaa hai asar dekh rahe haiN!

aadaab arz hai

Re: # 103
I cannot help appreciating this beautiful couplet for whatever purpose it has been posted.

`..........may be in line with Hindu mentality, wants to be secretive and confidential.`

Somebody needs to tell this duffer that by changing religion, does not change the metality.
Most of the Pakistanis are descendents of the same secretive hindus and have the same mentality.

Re: # 9

Great! when fools cannot answer they stoop down to name calling.

The author is right - SAARC is totally useless. India should just dissolve SAARC or get out of it. Why are we wasting our time trying to form regional alliance with loser nations like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal? These countries will always remian in the garbage dump, while India is galloping towards economic superpower status. We should form an alliance with China and Southeast Asian countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, who are more in our league. Those are the countries with whom we need to have free trade and economic cooperation.

We need to associate with winners, not these worthless losers in our neighborhood. Otherwise as we get richer, we will have to shoulder the burden of these beggars living around us.