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Is This Why the Jews Are Disliked by Other Religions?

mehul kamdar December 10, 2005

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#202 Posted by mannyd on December 14, 2005 9:31:58 am
Oh time, time why are thou so little for poor Tahmed, who has big plans for the world?

Prioritize your concerns Tahmed. You can not save the world jewry, Gujrati Muslims, Parsi crazies, Pakistan, Islam and destroy Hinduism at the same time.
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#201 Posted by mannyd on December 14, 2005 9:25:33 am
Tahmed #200: `First, if you were half as smart as you think you are (which you are not)`

However Arjun is twice as smart as Tahmed is though, otherwise Tahmed would not walk around with Behram1 on a leash for protection... LOL..
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#200 Posted by tahmed32 on December 14, 2005 8:35:43 am
arjun: normally I dont waste time with lowlife like you. But once in a while I do, so here is my response:

First, if you were half as smart as you think you are (which you are not), you wouldnt be writing rubbish that is easily taken apart by anyone with some time to waste. So let me take your grand examples apart: if you had a brain, when reading my posts you would realize that i was not making any broad generalizations about indians or pakistanis, but referring to something very specific: namely, the condoning of scum like you and ranjit by other indian posters on chowk. You wont find any Pakistani getting away with writing the kind of hate-filled garbage you hindutva ideologues.

Second: i have now wasted sufficient time in addressing this post to a piece of scum lie you and you can come back with your usual namecalling in one liners and fake links to articles that have nothing to do with what you claim they are saying. You can go to hell.
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#199 Posted by mohar11 on December 14, 2005 8:34:30 am
Re: # 191 rsridhar
[...I think the parsee badwa is certifiably mad.....]

If you say so - You are doctor here.....

I think you and other medically qualified hinuds [ like Shankar, may be ] would have to step up and correct this historical wrong that your ancestors have foisted upon this innocent parsee in his childhood.....

I mean - the dignosis is quite clear, even to the un-trained eye.... you can see his constant reference to sugar-cane.... that indicates that Mr Behram has been s@xually abused with hard, inanimate objects over a long period of time......and probably has been forced to digest the bodily fluids of the abuser.....

So do your job doc - get this guy out of his misery.... you may have to use a different name though - your hindoo name ``rsridhar`` will bring back his worst nightmares .... use a name like rsridharulla-bin-bandar or something..... And also get Closet-Mullah32 to help - Mr mullha has been tirelessly cheer-leading Mr Behram for quite sometime - they seem to have some symbiotic(sp) relationship.... may be some shared experiences or something.....
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#198 Posted by jang on December 14, 2005 8:25:12 am
GT sab, there are code-words, which bring out the primitive spirit, that which is imbibed in mothers milk (to quote jay). we have confusing hatred in our frog-brain. what these code words do, is bring out a gleeful release..a sense of belonging to a club. it allows us our hatred in comfort; i.e., if the club has many esteemed members, its a good hate. (i tried to use semi-colon!)

some posters perform the useful function of uttering the code-words, and the confused start mashallahs. there are other poster who post hate, but their hate does not contain code-words, so you dont see the wah-wahs.
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#197 Posted by mohar11 on December 14, 2005 8:17:14 am
You all Indian horrible hinuds - go easy on Mr Behram, OK?..... I mean, you guys are the reason why he has ended up this way in the first place..... It was an indian hindoo who abused him horribly in his childhood [he just confirmed sometime back - because paki hindoos are too nice to do such a horrible thing]....

So have some compassion for the poor guy - let him vent a little here..... 55 years of repressed memories - that`s a lot of baggage.... it will take time...... And we have Closet-Mullah32 cheer-leading him all the way - that might work out well for Mr Behram :)
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#196 Posted by arjun_m on December 14, 2005 6:45:52 am
#195 by tahmed32 on December 14, 2005 6:29am PT

Prophet tahmed(peace be unto your self-righteous left butt cheek)...


Indians need to develop a backbone



Like Pakis did when the stood up against their government using Islamic terrorism in Kashmir?

Or like the pakis who stood up and forced their government to prosecute the army guys who killed a bunch of bengalis?
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#195 Posted by tahmed32 on December 14, 2005 6:29:31 am
Subroto: Perhaps you did not read the stuff that some Indian posters (ranjit in particular) were writing at the time of the earthquake. I believe you when you say you hate people who gloat over anyone`s death (let alone the death of poor villagers due to a natural tragedy!!), and normally this would go without saying, since you are obviously a decent individual (and please dont pass this of as being patronizing, since I am merely stating my understanding based on what you have been writing for years on chowk).

But ranjit and others proved themselves to be less than normal human beings when they were gloating over these deaths. All I am saying is that you had no need to rush to this scumbags defense when I told him that it was he who was the nut (for gloating over the deaths of villagers), not Behram (who is quite correct in noting below that it is these hindu ideologues who pollute chowk with their disgusting posts). All I will add to Behram is that normal Indians need to develop a backbone and stand up to these thugs. When some Indian tries to demonize christian missionaries, instead of flocking to join him (as happened in the recent article demonizing christian missionaries written by an Indian), you need to speak up to them.
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#194 Posted by Ahmadzai on December 13, 2005 8:33:25 pm
Patwari at 142:

Yes, you may be right. The owners of biggest hotel chain in Pakistan is perhaps Sadruddin Hashwani and his family. They are Agha Khani Muslims.

Behram Avari also owns Beach Luxury Hotel in Karachi. He and his wife had gone to the Asian Games on their own expense as Pakistan Yatch Association did not have any money to support them. Their two sons also tried it out in yatching, but could never emulate the success of the parents.

I recall that Behram Avari was inducted in the cabinet also, but later resigned on account of differences with the Government.
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#193 Posted by subroto on December 13, 2005 8:28:41 pm
Mr Ahmed when and where did I rush to defend anyone on this forum? My remarks were based on what I had read here not some other forum that I have not read. And these are my words ``People from whom I can learn - college going kids, the working professionals, retirees, respectful submitters``. We all know who the college going kid and the respectful submitter are. The other two were just categories that I had added on for I think they are valid too.
And let me state again without playing to any gallery I dislike people gloating about death.
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#192 Posted by GT on December 13, 2005 7:42:26 pm

Continuing from my previous post 188, let us carry out a small exercise on `hate`. I shall be quoting from the posts of three individuals. The intentions of the posters may not be congruent to my interpretation, I apologise in advance for misquoting.

This is what hate sounds to me, something said to urge the mob on:

``beti-cho@h haram key will be surprised when he looks at me. I am none of what he has described.
Haram key has no agenda but to malign Indians. He does that by preying on religious hatred that he has imbibed in abudnance in Pakiland.``

The hate spewed above is then justified by pointing out the following:

1. ``Those who can`t make it to Foras Road, Hindoo girls find their dreams and inspirations here

http://www.holidays-with-a-hottie.us/

day dubba dub dub dub``

2. ``All hindoos can do is ``hare ram....ram...``, eh! They are so ugly. They smell. And I can`t stand them. Their nose are crooked. They look like monkeys. Those hindoo girls, all they want is to laid than to be late. But, they prefer to be late than to be sorry. But, they are sorry, naanis or mothers (whatever, you pick)

And with their dhotis, they can really get easy access when and where needed. Now that is the dress code we all should be following. Those gol guppa hindoo girls must be really crazy looking for sugar daddies.``

Now the above mentioned `discourse` has to be rationalized to the civilized middle class. Why? To gain support of the polity which really matters. How is it done?

``(So and so) .... applies the sugarcane NOT because someone is a hindu, but because of what someone wrote. ....Get a backbone, all you ``silent majority`` of India. You dont need to rush to the defense of scum simply because they are indians.....``

( My note: see the rationalization, all vs. some, and see the contradictory position of defending the `right` or `wrong` person)

But hold on. The last poster is intelligent. She / he will quote to show that the arguement was always contingent on some and not `all`. Here is the quote (which I provide on his/her behalf):

`` However, this hindoo fanatic was the first one who attacked me several moons ago. These hindoo fanatics are the real losers. They have nothing to contribute. All they do is attack and spew hate incessantly. And we must not tolerate that.``

(My note: Notice the transition from `this` to `these` and finally to `we`)


Finally, what is my position on all this? I do not know....I am still learning....but have seen this in discussions with `family and friends` most of my life......
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#191 Posted by rsridhar on December 13, 2005 7:37:45 pm
re:#151 by behram1
I think the parsee badwa is certifiably mad.
Well, the vultures are waiting. Let us see how long all this lasts.
Sridhar
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#190 Posted by rsridhar on December 13, 2005 7:30:27 pm
re:#176 by behram1
Looks like Haram key has either fire up his A$$ or vultures preying on him even while he is breathing. I pity him.
Sridhar
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#189 Posted by tahmed32 on December 13, 2005 7:10:28 pm
Subroto: That is all very well. My original question still remains unaddressed: Where were you when ranjit was gloating over the deaths of people in the earthquake? And why did you suddenly get this urge to rush to his defense when I merely reminded ranjit when he was striking the holier-than-thou pose and calling behram a nut?

A straight and honest answer will be appreciated. No playing to the gallery please.
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#188 Posted by GT on December 13, 2005 5:42:44 pm


Offensive as many of these posts are, they should not be deleted (banned). These posts are highly correlated with certain individuals and they can be easily ignored.

I do not want these posts to be deleted because they trace out very fascinating histories. Three of the involved interactors presumably stay in the US. Their initial posts were balanced, liberal and polite (one of them was very patronizing then and is so even now). But something interesting happened along the way. I am not sure what exactly, but it seems that their nationalistic or religious sentiments were hurt. That by itself is not interesting,.....what is interesting is the change in language and content of their posts.

Why do I find this interesting? Well, it is because of the following:
If frivilous Chowk bantering can bring out such hate from these educated, polite (and largely `secular`) people living in the country of milk and honey, imagine how less it would require for people in the `dark` subcontinent. (I am not very sure of this negative association).

The reverse is also there for people to see. YLH comes to mind straigt away. But check out the posts of Urstruly (who I believe was the first to mention the dhoti), harimau etc. I am not saying that these posters do not use foul language, they do (not YLH). But unlike the above mentioned posters, the latters` posts have more than foul language. In fact they have a lot more content.

After all....this is chowk. All kinds should be allowed.
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#187 Posted by subroto on December 13, 2005 4:24:36 pm
I need no apologies nor do I need any character certificate. I do not favour people based on their religion nor am I seeking to reform anyone. I don`t coming rushing anyone`s aid because they are from my country. I dislike people gloating about death - unlike many of you I have personally known someone who died due to terrorism. Unlike the armchair warriors I have known families who suffered due to wars. I don`t believe in despising someone`s faith and belief however different it is to mine. I have relatives who follow a different religion than mine. I don`t think writing scatological posts with pedophilic content is same as defending the honour of your country.
That said this is a free-for-all site people are entitled to post whatever they like. Others have the right to reply in whatever manner they deem fit. If if the posts are not getting deleted then obviously the are meeting the guidelines If your post includes words or masked references that are offensive, crude, repugnant, or obscene, your post will be duly deleted. In that case there is nothing for me to protest about.
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