Farzana Versey December 10, 2005
#81 Posted by mannyd on December 12, 2005 11:43:58 pm
Sorry for double posting on 78 and 79:
Zahra: `He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.`
Do you know Salim`s relatives? Have you seen him how he behaves with them v/s other people`s relatives? Is it really a fact?
Or do you always embellish your narrations with imaginary superlatives? How do you come up with these things?
Zahra: `He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.`
Do you know Salim`s relatives? Have you seen him how he behaves with them v/s other people`s relatives? Is it really a fact?
Or do you always embellish your narrations with imaginary superlatives? How do you come up with these things?
#80 Posted by mannyd on December 12, 2005 11:36:35 pm
PakiHunk, Samina and Khami`s various comments:
The purpose of ignore button on UP is to ignore people, you can not stand. If you do not understand how to use it, ask Scout. She knows how to use it.
About a year ago, I requested a stranger on Chowk to refrain from vulgarity against Scout and Samina. Like a gentleman, he was gracious enough to grant me my wish and even silently suffered the abuse from females for months without uttering a word. The gentleman`s name is Salim Chauhan. He may have used other Nicks at that time.
On the other hand Samina can not utter two sentences without using Namarad and Beeyatch and has persisted in doing it despite pointed, clear and unambiguous requests to refrain from me and others.
To bring up uncensored UP`s postings here as a permanent record and use them as Farzana`s burden is full of mischief and malice.
My request to Chowk staff is to wipe out Pakihunk`s one sided, delibrately doctored posts completely from this thread and penalize people, who do it in future.
The purpose of ignore button on UP is to ignore people, you can not stand. If you do not understand how to use it, ask Scout. She knows how to use it.
About a year ago, I requested a stranger on Chowk to refrain from vulgarity against Scout and Samina. Like a gentleman, he was gracious enough to grant me my wish and even silently suffered the abuse from females for months without uttering a word. The gentleman`s name is Salim Chauhan. He may have used other Nicks at that time.
On the other hand Samina can not utter two sentences without using Namarad and Beeyatch and has persisted in doing it despite pointed, clear and unambiguous requests to refrain from me and others.
To bring up uncensored UP`s postings here as a permanent record and use them as Farzana`s burden is full of mischief and malice.
My request to Chowk staff is to wipe out Pakihunk`s one sided, delibrately doctored posts completely from this thread and penalize people, who do it in future.
#79 Posted by mannyd on December 12, 2005 11:17:57 pm
Zahra Ji # 76: What difference a few days make!!! The following is your thinking or some kind of mix-up?
{{#35 Echoes on November 23, 2005
[Re: # 124
Yes Godot Sahib, I concur with you (not that it matters). Even though I am not very familiar with the background of this whole saga, but I do find Salim Chauhan Sahib very courteous and very well mannered. He is always polite and rarely (never) uses foul language. He is one of the cleanest and nicest people I have had a chance to read. He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.
I also think that the other parties are also very polite and courteous and friendly. There must be some misunderstanding. I think it is the Tamashabaz people who are trying to make a mole out of a mountain.]
}}
{{#35 Echoes on November 23, 2005
[Re: # 124
Yes Godot Sahib, I concur with you (not that it matters). Even though I am not very familiar with the background of this whole saga, but I do find Salim Chauhan Sahib very courteous and very well mannered. He is always polite and rarely (never) uses foul language. He is one of the cleanest and nicest people I have had a chance to read. He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.
I also think that the other parties are also very polite and courteous and friendly. There must be some misunderstanding. I think it is the Tamashabaz people who are trying to make a mole out of a mountain.]
}}
#78 Posted by mannyd on December 12, 2005 11:14:44 pm
Zahra Ji # 76: What difference a few days make!!! The following is your thinking or some kind of mix-up?
{{#35 Echoes on November 23, 2005
[Re: # 124
Yes Godot Sahib, I concur with you (not that it matters). Even though I am not very familiar with the background of this whole saga, but I do find Salim Chauhan Sahib very courteous and very well mannered. He is always polite and rarely (never) uses foul language. He is one of the cleanest and nicest people I have had a chance to read. He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.
I also think that the other parties are also very polite and courteous and friendly. There must be some misunderstanding. I think it is the Tamashabaz people who are trying to make a mole out of a mountain.]
}}
{{#35 Echoes on November 23, 2005
[Re: # 124
Yes Godot Sahib, I concur with you (not that it matters). Even though I am not very familiar with the background of this whole saga, but I do find Salim Chauhan Sahib very courteous and very well mannered. He is always polite and rarely (never) uses foul language. He is one of the cleanest and nicest people I have had a chance to read. He is my hero. I love his politeness, civility and courteousness and the way he addresses other people’s relatives – with utmost respect, more respect than he shows his own relatives. It is a fact.
I also think that the other parties are also very polite and courteous and friendly. There must be some misunderstanding. I think it is the Tamashabaz people who are trying to make a mole out of a mountain.]
}}
#77 Posted by MantoLives on December 12, 2005 10:08:10 pm
Chowkstaff,
Thank you for that clarification.
-YLH
Thank you for that clarification.
-YLH
#76 Posted by ZahraJ on December 12, 2005 8:59:57 pm
Re: # 72
Godot:
I was just passing by when I came across some interesting analyses. A few thoughts: Some people lose temper, utter a bad word or two and move on. Others who are hot blooded, they keep themselves away from any inciting threads or simply ignore and continue. Any man or woman who has the time to post paras full of vulgarities needs to be routed to a cleaning specialist. Hopefully, educated adults have better vocabulary and mindset than the nonsense posted in #71 and many others with ``b this and b that``. It`s a shame to see this type of rubbish posted on Chowk. I am also amazed that Chowk Admin is allowing such derogatory posts. I am not sure if they are experimenting some kind of treatment process ? This is sick and disgusting!
Since you are cross examining some on this board, I do want to point out one item. This is in reference to your posts to Samina. Everyone takes pride in his or her profession. It is very unprofessional to belittle someone`s profession. Please be cognizant of that.
Take Care,
Godot:
I was just passing by when I came across some interesting analyses. A few thoughts: Some people lose temper, utter a bad word or two and move on. Others who are hot blooded, they keep themselves away from any inciting threads or simply ignore and continue. Any man or woman who has the time to post paras full of vulgarities needs to be routed to a cleaning specialist. Hopefully, educated adults have better vocabulary and mindset than the nonsense posted in #71 and many others with ``b this and b that``. It`s a shame to see this type of rubbish posted on Chowk. I am also amazed that Chowk Admin is allowing such derogatory posts. I am not sure if they are experimenting some kind of treatment process ? This is sick and disgusting!
Since you are cross examining some on this board, I do want to point out one item. This is in reference to your posts to Samina. Everyone takes pride in his or her profession. It is very unprofessional to belittle someone`s profession. Please be cognizant of that.
Take Care,
#75 Posted by khamkhwa. on December 12, 2005 8:07:31 pm
... faiz has the perfect answer...
Phir hashr ke saamaN huay aiwan-e-havas meiN
baithay haiN zavi`l adl, gunahgaar khaRay haiN
haaN jurm-e-wafa dekhiye kiss kiss pe hai saabit
voh saaray khatakaar sar-e-daar khaRay haiN
;)
Phir hashr ke saamaN huay aiwan-e-havas meiN
baithay haiN zavi`l adl, gunahgaar khaRay haiN
haaN jurm-e-wafa dekhiye kiss kiss pe hai saabit
voh saaray khatakaar sar-e-daar khaRay haiN
;)
#74 Posted by Saminasha on December 12, 2005 7:27:45 pm
Re: # 71
Any comment from the editorial staff at chowk.com?
Any comment from the editorial staff at chowk.com?
#73 Posted by Saminasha on December 12, 2005 7:26:14 pm
Re: # 71
If Salim is Tartuffe, he has certainly found his Orgon in Godot. Can anyone translate Tartuffe into Urdu? Its a timely satire....
If Salim is Tartuffe, he has certainly found his Orgon in Godot. Can anyone translate Tartuffe into Urdu? Its a timely satire....
#72 Posted by Godot on December 12, 2005 7:00:40 pm
Re: # 70
pakihunk
What drove Salim to write that?
pakihunk
What drove Salim to write that?
#69 Posted by mannyd on December 12, 2005 5:31:42 pm
` Will you please introduce Mr. Behram1 to Chowk UP and remove his provocative posts 72 and 73 about Mr. Rsridhar and Arjun_m from the DM article on Khatri group?
#68 Posted by Godot on December 12, 2005 5:20:15 pm
Re: # 67
Khamkhwa
“i make fun of salim or anyone who needs a little prick in his or her inflated persona to come down to earth... i object to people calling women whores, i poke fun at fools doing a bad translation and claiming to be creative writers”
Oh, holy thou! So people are abusive to you because you defend women (never mind that one of your abusers is Zeena, a woman) and take offense at bad translations. What a saint and a literary critic you are! And people abuse you for that?
A ``prick,`` eh? Inventive, I must say!
With this post of yours, you just proved it: ”We all know how you instigate altercations, how you insult people, just to receive retaliation that is several times the abuse that you initiate...I have found you to be ill-informed, idiotic, abusive, and devoid of any useful knowledge.``
This truth stands. It’s you who should be on trial, not Salim.
Khamkhwa
“i make fun of salim or anyone who needs a little prick in his or her inflated persona to come down to earth... i object to people calling women whores, i poke fun at fools doing a bad translation and claiming to be creative writers”
Oh, holy thou! So people are abusive to you because you defend women (never mind that one of your abusers is Zeena, a woman) and take offense at bad translations. What a saint and a literary critic you are! And people abuse you for that?
A ``prick,`` eh? Inventive, I must say!
With this post of yours, you just proved it: ”We all know how you instigate altercations, how you insult people, just to receive retaliation that is several times the abuse that you initiate...I have found you to be ill-informed, idiotic, abusive, and devoid of any useful knowledge.``
This truth stands. It’s you who should be on trial, not Salim.
#67 Posted by khamkhwa. on December 12, 2005 4:34:56 pm
Re: # 66
godot...
okay... i will let you in the secret... i make fun of salim or anyone who needs a little prick in his or her inflated persona to come down to earth... i object to people calling women whores, i poke fun at fools doing a bad translation and claiming to be creative writers, i fight those who bully underdogs...and i enjoy having fun at their cost....now that the cat is out of the bag are you going to prove me wrong...?
godot...
okay... i will let you in the secret... i make fun of salim or anyone who needs a little prick in his or her inflated persona to come down to earth... i object to people calling women whores, i poke fun at fools doing a bad translation and claiming to be creative writers, i fight those who bully underdogs...and i enjoy having fun at their cost....now that the cat is out of the bag are you going to prove me wrong...?
#66 Posted by Godot on December 12, 2005 4:23:01 pm
Re: # 65
Khamkhwa
Why don`t you answer the question: Why is Salim abusive to you? Why was Zeena, a fairly reasonable and decent person, was very abusive to you recently? Why? Why?
I`ve asked you a simple question. Now answer it instead of beating around the bush and running for cover.
You want me to ``shutup forever`` because you know the answer to that question but cannot say it. Salim`s post #55 stands as truth.
Khamkhwa
Why don`t you answer the question: Why is Salim abusive to you? Why was Zeena, a fairly reasonable and decent person, was very abusive to you recently? Why? Why?
I`ve asked you a simple question. Now answer it instead of beating around the bush and running for cover.
You want me to ``shutup forever`` because you know the answer to that question but cannot say it. Salim`s post #55 stands as truth.
#65 Posted by khamkhwa. on December 12, 2005 4:00:51 pm
Re: # 64
godot...
.... it all started with the sewage talk and i challenged you all to post who said what for any period of time, but neither you nor the editor took up the challenge for the simple reason that you can not find dirty language in my posts. instead of hiding behind sophistry why don`t you or salim chauhan post the objectionable material from me that in your opinion makes salim chauhan to react the way he does as posted at #54...i am done talking with a biased man like you, either prove me a liar or shutup forever ... are you man enough for the challenge or would you hide behind fancy words again...?
godot...
.... it all started with the sewage talk and i challenged you all to post who said what for any period of time, but neither you nor the editor took up the challenge for the simple reason that you can not find dirty language in my posts. instead of hiding behind sophistry why don`t you or salim chauhan post the objectionable material from me that in your opinion makes salim chauhan to react the way he does as posted at #54...i am done talking with a biased man like you, either prove me a liar or shutup forever ... are you man enough for the challenge or would you hide behind fancy words again...?
#64 Posted by Godot on December 12, 2005 1:40:51 pm
Re: # 63
Khamkhwa
``who authorised you to ask questions``
Same one who authorized you to cut-n-paste anything you want.
Now, answer the question: Why does Salim behave the way he does to you? If you cannot answer, then we all know why.
````i suggest you should put this question to salim chauhan rather than i``
He has answered that question in his post #55: ``We all know how you instigae altercations, how you insult people, just to receive retaliation that is several times the abuse that you initiate...I have found you to be ill-informed, idiotic, abusive, and devoid of any useful knowledge.``
If you don`t answer the question yourself, then you concur with Salim`s view of yours just as i do.
And, yes, Salim is a victim of you and your cohorts.
Khamkhwa
``who authorised you to ask questions``
Same one who authorized you to cut-n-paste anything you want.
Now, answer the question: Why does Salim behave the way he does to you? If you cannot answer, then we all know why.
````i suggest you should put this question to salim chauhan rather than i``
He has answered that question in his post #55: ``We all know how you instigae altercations, how you insult people, just to receive retaliation that is several times the abuse that you initiate...I have found you to be ill-informed, idiotic, abusive, and devoid of any useful knowledge.``
If you don`t answer the question yourself, then you concur with Salim`s view of yours just as i do.
And, yes, Salim is a victim of you and your cohorts.
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