An Alternative Spelling of Eed

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{Even today there are countless families who remember their elders generation after generation, so anyone is going to discount the above evidance that Quraish considered Abrahim as their Great Grand father? }

At least this cannot be taken as evidence. What families remember of their elder generations may have been erroneous. Usually in this case other relatives who know the truth will keep their mouth shut because of respect or because of an attitude that these matters are really not too important. By the time Aisha used the expression, the expression might have already become something like a cuss word which a lady is allowed to speak. It may have become a figure of speech by then.

#110 einsteinwallah
OK.
Lets split the three of them, first and then attach their meaning together in a chain. It will be simpler for us to understand.
#1:delusional denial:-Delusions are false ideas, based on incorrect inference about external reality, not consistent with person`s intelligence and cultural background, can not be corrected by reasoning, absurd, totally implausible.
Denial:-Avoiding to abolish external reality.

#2:-Reaction formation:-Anal phase association, transforming an unacceptable impulse in to it`s opposite, like neuroses of any kind, if, is frequently used, becomes a permanent character trait.

#3:-recessed or recession:-Expelling or withholding from consciousness an idea or feeling. Conscious perception of instincts and feelings is blocked in repression, which is an attempt to return to an earlier libidinal phase of functioning to avoid the tension evoked at the present level of development, basic tendency to gain instinctual gratification at a less developed period.

If, you chain all of them together, you will come to know, what I meant?
Thank you for your precious time and interest.
Sincerely
Zeena

Zeena #86. Can you please explain what you mean by ``delusional denial with reaction formation in a recessed fashion``?

Thank you in advance.

precisely soysauce ji!

regards.

Dear Farzana Versey
Chief-editor
With all due respect.
So, it is allright with you, people to let this writer abuse our faiths and abuse pious ladies as this writer already did in above article.But, it is not OK for you, if, I stand firmly against this article. This wrtier has been harrassing me, stalking me and abusing me with all the name callings on unplugged for the last 1 year. You did not even do anything about that.

But, I guess, by publishing this article , you have proven that , if, you let him abuse our pious ladies and our prophets, this insane person is free to abuse anyone on chowk. Afterall, I am nothing as compared to our pious ladies and our prophets.
Thank you very much
Sincerely
Zeena

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#91 by masadi

Brother masadi,

Your `quran-awards-women-equitable-inheritence-thru-their-husbands-inheritance-alleluiah` is a classic, but since no one else is available, kaka will pretend that you have a brain.

Abrahams`s mention in random stories is not an issue here. It is unremarkably possible for an old geezer to contemplate killing a child or abandoning a concubine + child. And this is the point, THERE IS NO UNIQUELY IDENTIFYING EVENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GUY! This guy`s resume is so lackluster, that Brother Rizwaan had to pull the Granddaddy pagaent award out of his ass to give Abraham some credentials. While you are thinking this through, look up the word `ostension`.

Here`s list of heroes in the Islamic tradition and their claims to fame:

Adam* - If being the first man is an event, then this guy is in. Otherwise a hermeneutic afterthought

Eve - sells theories of female evil to latter generations

Cain and Abel- idiotic bickering

Noah* - The great Flood, even if some call him Gilgamesh

Abraham - an idiot, who thought and then changed his mind and then died. Lord be praised!

Lot* - Offered resistance to homosexual rapes (but offered his daughters for regular rapes??), got rewarded through a quick, salty divorce

Isaac/Ishmael/Jacob - irrelevant pawns in the geneology game

Joseph* - Went to Egypt, got Isrealites moving

Moses* - Rebel, Lawgiver, Main Man

Joshua/Deborah/Samson/Samuel/Nathan - kinda like Omar and Muaviyah?

Saul* - First king of Israel. Underrepresented in the scriptures

David* - Major Jihadist for Israel, conquered Jerusalem/Jebus

Solomon* - screwed Sheeba and lives on in Ethiopian legends (now this is a good example of historicity). Wisest guy around

Elijah/Elisha - Fantastic nonsense

Amos/Isaiah/Jeremiah etc - whatever

Daniel/Jonah - and the point is?

Ezra* - Compiled the torah. Did important work, are you listening Abraham?

Job - Second Abraham. Eeediot!

Zachariah/John the Baptist - Background music.. hehehe

Mary/Jesus* - Nevermind the supernatural healing, walking and wine-brewing and getting up from the dead, the Crucifixion was a public event (even if Quran has him saved etc). Hundreds of people must have watched. The rest is bullshit.

Peter/Paul* - they travelled, preached and were executed. Their ideas are still influential

Constantine* - hmmmmm

Mohammad* - Hijrah, conquering Makkah, providing a rationale for Arab expansionism

Omar/Muaviyah - Wheelers and Dealers

Mirza Qadiyani - still waiting for the Qadiyani revolution to take over the world

Rashad Khalifa - hahaha

Bin Laden* - reputation of having given America a hard time

kaka - wrote posts at night and played guitar during the day.

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The people with the asterisk (*), have some historicity based on a uniquely identifying event. Abraham and others, couldn`t even win the Granddaddy award. That`s one of the things, kaka has been saying..

Alert,

Zeena has a panchayat background and is predictably boring. She`ll bring your mother into the discussion until you are no longer offended. She means well though and we all take turns having pity on her.

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#102 alert
alert jii aka kaka aka hamzaad
I do not enjoy this article. That is very obvious from my posts. B/c I am not pervert.
Yes, I do object each and every trash posted by by this trash called hamzaad. And, also I blame Farzana Versey more than this insane. For obvious reasons. She being the cheif ediotr , proved herself equal to the writer by publishing this insanity.

As for as hidden fantasies are, they are obvious by the supporters of this crap. So, you know, whos pervert and who is not.

Please, keep your hidden fantasies to yourself. Just go to some porno web site, where you can satisfy your apparent fantasies. Remember, I am saying (Only a pervert can appreciate this article)

No, I am not threatening this creep. I am seriously asking his phone number and address as this creep has had been harrassing and stalking me and calling me names. This sissy deserves a Pagal kutaiy kii death.

#85 Raw-Dustji
Yes indeed Bob Dylanji`s stuff is potent - look how he got to the crux of the matter with brutal language - no couching in soft language, no religious obfuscation - this is not ``sacrifice`` or propitiation, god says to KILL and ``Abe`` says where should the KILLING be done. God and Abe stand exposed as nasty, mean, and self-deluded characters...

reply:#99 and other 20 interacts by Zeena ji

Well Zeena ji I believe that you have taken the erotic side of this article too seriously, and it seems that it has triggered some hidden fantasies or some bad memories in you.

None of us are angels,monks,nuns or virgins like prophets, hence I can`t understand that why have you been personally threatening a free citizen and an intellectual like Hamzaad, or why are you trying to transfer your blame or guilt on Farzana Versey??

19 interacts from you out of 100 tells a lot about the insecurity or deep fantasies which this, article might have triggered in you,..and you again and again repeat ``rape from rear`` kind of wordings,..well I guess this article contains way more than that ..and try to understand the oppression and hegemony this abrahim guy brought on us due to his relationships with various women at the same time..and ``what his right hands possessed`` or concubines are other than that...

Arabs are winners and the smartest people,..paradise , air conditioners, satins, velvets, whiskies and white lucent beauties of this world....and janat al Firdous, hoor o Ghilman in the other world..

re:#81 by Urstruly
Dude,
You still live in US?
Can`t believe US is harboring such nut cases.
Sridhar

#98 einsteinwala
There is a vast difference between imposing and to make some person feel. Latter is to makeone realise and former is to push someone in to it. Thanks

I hope you now know, what I mean.

Yes, I have every right to stand against this article`s writer firmly. And, that is my feeling and I will never every surrender. Period.

If, Farzana versey is imposing such articles on us. Then we will retaliate with all our capacity.

#40 by Zeena on January 10, 2006 7:30pm PT

{I am not attacking any faith. I am just trying to make them feel to repect each and every faith. }

You cannot ``make them feel`` anything. Feelings come from within a person. You cannot impose from above.

#89 stop being so sensitive..and i will take back my criticism to make you feel better ;-)
and please dont stop writing the funny stuff.

now that alert #94 is some serious vitriol.