An Alternative Spelling of Eed

Well, I am new to chowk, and after reading this, I realize that absolutely anything can be published here. So, why bother posting the following Guidelines?

``In order to protect this freedom for all Chowkwalas, it is necessary to adhere to the rules of good conduct as spelled out below.

Please refrain from profanity and abusive language
Please refrain from personal attacks on writers and respondents
Please refrain from frivolous statements that are inflammatory towards any race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, religion or other personal discriminations``

So, if the editor doesn`t find this offensive, then, I guess this website is a free-fo-all, without real rules that are upheld.

You`ve lost one reader.

peace out.

I have not read anything more bigoted then this article, before. Let me share a possible explanation about last paragraph, where he mentioned about accomplishments of several prophets and alluded to no accomplishment of Ibrahim.

When Ibrahim have no second thought about sacrificing his only son at that time then God spread his off-springs to all over the world, and he is the most respected Grand father even after thousands of years. A point worth pondering in relation to Eid today, sacrificing your esteemed best loved thing for Allah, does not go unrewarded.

Secondly, real sacrifice was leaving Ismael in desert at a young age, where there is no chance of survival, but based on his strong faith helped by his noble soul and aided by God revelation on him which removes all doubts about existance of God, Ibrahim sacrificed his family to a life of hardship. This is more historically authentic then the stories as used by this author that he was climbing up a hill ( is there any historical base for such assumption).

Hajar Aswad was known to Arabs before Muhammad and had been associated to Abrahim by Quraish of that time; should we just discard this evidance?

It is naratted in Bokhari that Hazrat Muhammad said that when Aisha has to empahize some thing she would say ``in the name of Rab of Muhammad`` and when she would be feeling angry with me she would say ``in the name of Rab of Abrahim``, this is another evidance. Even today there are countless families who remember their elders generation after generation, so anyone is going to discount the above evidance that Quraish considered Abrahim as their Great Grand father?

#42
PS:But I get the sense of what you are saying, so no need to be ``sad`` on my account.

hamzaad#42
Whatever the reality, it was far better that reverence was commanded for a dogma of Immaculate Conception rather than for a dogma of rape. That is this layman`s pov.

Bravo
Farzana Versey
Carry on with this crap and more crap in future along with xxx rated pictures that you will need for unflinching ideas to enhance the creative creepy environment on chowk to gain popularity.

Next, time, my suggestion for you is to come up with another piece of trash like this about Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). Not, only that, why don`t you reserve one front page column for humiliation of all Prophets, that would make this chowk site more attractive. Seriously, that would be real UNFLINCHING.

Ps:-So, my feedback for you is, to encourage more and more pervert writers to humiliate faiths. And, there is a great chance, you or chowk will be nominated for noble peace prize of honour. Who knows?

An open invitation to every TOM, DICK and HARRY to humiliate all the prophets and get bonuses by chowk staff. Thanks

#40:

Don`t get angry at me.. This whole concept of ``respecting each and every faith`` sounds like baloney to me.. But I agree that at face value..I understand you have great respect for all the prophets and all the religions.. No problem with that.

Let me talk about this scenario..Think about the poster ``hamzaad`` as the prophet of the new religion ``hamzaadism`` where his god revelaed to him about the true story about Ibrahim/Abraham and told him that there were good prophets before him from Ibrahim/Musa/Isa/Muhammad but their messages have been corrupted and right now in 2006 he is THE prophet..

In this article, he is just narrating the revelation he received from the God whose name will be given later (hamzaad dude, i can`t invent everything, you coin a good name)..

Now this is a new religion and I am the first convert (I hope..). Now according to your statement of respecting each and every faith, you have to respect my faith too and stop blaspheming my prophet hamzaad..

How does this sound??. :-))

#22 by masanamuthu on January 10, 2006 10:59am PT

`I wonder if this dude suspected the birth of his child (when he was 100) and decided to kill by invoking god`s name. The second story about leaving his concubine and the child by invoking god makes perfect sense..`

masanamuthu,

First of all Eed Mubarak! kaka boiled an egg today for qurbaani.. kaka is glad that you enjoyed the write-up. It is for people like you that kaka.. okay enough BS!

The soap opera qualities of the complex relationships in Greek and Indian mythologies do not lend themselves to what could be called `scribal editing` or `pious frauds`. kaka shall discuss textual analysis in Hindu mythology in another write-up but for now, be aware that what we Muslims call `Israaliyaat` has a documented history of embedded agendas within storytelling and various groups at various times have influenced the collection and editing of canon based on the politics that they engaged in at the time. Keeping that in mind, a character named Abraham is no more than an agent of their own interests within the texts that they deem are important (they being the rabbis in control of the normative tradition). Therefore, to ascribe any intentionality to Abraham as regards to his attitudes towards his wife or children is futile. Even the radically moronic behavior of Abraham which kaka has mocked, such as abandoning concubine + child in the desert, is really a moral lesson of how seriously Allah should be taken or `what seems bad now, turns good later` etc. Probably no abandoning ever happened. It is just the force of a narrative which solidifies a certain kind of `pious` behavious vis-a-vis Allah`s mercy/terror.

It is without any doubt, THAT compliance to THAT standards. that kaka is mocking. Again, Abraham is merely a pawn in kaka`s narrative. The old fool probably died being frightened of lightening and thunder (However, there is the problem of which fool, in what century, with what identifying quality that is being referred to. That is called the problem of ostension). kaka has also successfully plugged in assumptions that would take a man to slaughter a child, without resorting to any supernatural. kaka hopes that the narrative was believable if not hilarious.

sadna,

It is with great sadness that kaka has noted your bewilderment at the `rape story`. Maybe because, Versey changed `aqal/sense` to `equal` in the beginning of that paragraph that caused some confusion. kaka was merely pointing out that if the Christians took the rape of Hazrat Miriam (may be upon peace her) as a plausible start of events (the rest of the details about her being frightened or ignorant of her rapists IS JUST THE FORCE OF NARRATIVE COMPLETING A STORY), then dogmas like `immaculate conception` or `virgin birth` would not have controlled the normative tradition of sex and Orginal Sin among the Catholics. The rape of Mary is not exactly kaka`s innovation but the liberating logic that accompanies a series of logical events sans the supernatural is certainly kaka`s cross to carry.

Lastly, the issue of appropriating respect and offense to a padestal where a public forum caters to your sensibilities: kaka has little but his pity to offer. Also on offer is an education and insight out of the padded cacoon of your existence to a world where nobody cares about your feelings. It is just as cold as that.

sorry for typo
It is respect.

#39
I am not attacking any faith. I am just trying to make them feel to repect each and every faith.

Well, it looks like you`re a big supporter of this piece of trash or crap. i call anyone who is supporter of this trash(pervert).

Ps:- If, you wish to discuss about Muhammad(PBUH). Open another thread just like this and humiliate our prophet same way as this pervert did in this thread. You will be honoured with publication of your great and funny article by our chief editor. This article reflects her taste. Off, course great taste.

May be, if, you will continue humiliating our Prophets, FV will resign and will announce you as a chief editor for next term. B/c she will benefit chowk more and more to choose people who will humiliate prophets the most. So, 1,2,3 go and start typing this crap. Believe me, you don`t need any mind to think. You can type any crap with all these words of wisdom(as per FV) and also, you can post xxxxx rated pictures and cyber xxxx movies, if, you really wish to be popular and if you really wish to be the top most writer with out any mind on chowk. Who cares for others faiths? Just stick to these guide lines and you will be the, chosen lucky one.

I`m surprised at the comments, trash / disgusting / offensive etc..etc..

Attacking one set of beliefs is always the above for the believers.. I wonder what the pagans / polytheists thought when Muhammad was busy breaking idols in Mecca..

oh boy, now you`ve done it Farzana.... the publication of this piece of trash proves that anything and everything lacking substance or effort will be and can be published on chowk these days....

that said, the content of this piece of trash is not offensive, the fact that hamzaad`s verbal diarrhea was published IS

:)

hamzaad,

it`s not your fault.... if anything, i gotta hand it to you for your timing and passing through the open gates at the right time and the right place.

Farzana Versey
And, you think, you`re being open to all kinds of articles by permitting freedom of expression. In, that case, when you selected this article for publishing? Did you think for a moment that this article is very narrow minded and fanatic mullahish unsuccessful attempt to target certain faiths?

You proved yourself worst than extremist, fanatic religious mullahs, who out of their own extremely limited mind set and vision don`t waste any attempt to target certain other faiths and also women.

Do you know, what real modernism and real freedom is? Let me tell you, what it is?
It is to free your mind out of all prejudices, narrowmindedness to absorb all faiths through the passage of acceptance and respect, while honouring other`s feelings with equality.

Although I am a hindu, I find this article disgusting. I wouldnt like it if someone insulted my mythology like this and I can understand why muslims will find this terrible.

Now this is funny..I agree with Wolfe.

Why do you people get so upset about dead fairy tale characters who lived 5000 yrs ago and 8000 miles away. I mean really folks. Don;t like it..wrap a suicide belt and stuff yourself in the toilet.

IN a world rife with conspiracy theories..4000 jews missing from wtc...6 gerbils running the world from within bill gates` ass...you guys have to cast aspersions on someone writing satire.

If Ibrahim has a problem..tell him to get his namard ass here and confront Hamzaad. Be a man about it.

article is not offensive unless one sees the whole story as logical. not that being offensive or provocative is something as necessarily negative.

hamzaad, if the reader could be implicated into the story by proxy (like applying a more sympathetic tone perhaps?) the payoff could be even bigger. :-)

next stop : Muharram and Karbala story. thats like a month from now. Eid Mubarak .!

The stuff about rape is very offensive. Rape may be a common currency of satire for some people, I wonder why? Is it to make the act of rape more acceptable socially? Then why doesn`t the author write satirically about castration to make that act more acceptable socially as well?

I don`t know the story of Abraham so can`t comment on the rest.