Hamzaad January 10, 2006
#113 Posted by Pracha on January 14, 2006 5:23:55 pm
This is really in bad taste, I have lost what ever little respect I had for Chowk. If the Editors of Chowk think that this is an illustration of their `liberalism` they are mistaken, I think most Pakistanis et al are relegious to the point of believing in certains sets of `Iman- beliefs` Haj being one of them and `Iman` on the prophets, specifically on those mentioned in the Quran.
This is nothing but a balant case of out right blasphemy, don`t play with our beliefs. Rest that in peace, please
This is nothing but a balant case of out right blasphemy, don`t play with our beliefs. Rest that in peace, please
#114 Posted by hamzaad on January 14, 2006 6:14:15 pm
Alert`s perspective also brings to light a certain elitist view that deserves some sunlight. A random grouping of area extending from Hazara to Karachi, with immigrants of urbane backgrounds having to share identities on a single forum with the upshots of rural panchayat systems.. it is really unfortunate for either cultures to be exposed to the decadence of the other. Further proof that nationalism (atleast Pakistani) is futile and individual education is the way to go.
This isn`t unlike the Bible Belt traditionalists who after practising slavery, going to war over emancipation, resisting integration and civil rights for minorities and opposing abortion, gay rights and stem cell research, face off the metropolitans who breach values, advocating the profane and daring the unseen. Only the stakes are higher in US.
This isn`t unlike the Bible Belt traditionalists who after practising slavery, going to war over emancipation, resisting integration and civil rights for minorities and opposing abortion, gay rights and stem cell research, face off the metropolitans who breach values, advocating the profane and daring the unseen. Only the stakes are higher in US.
#115 Posted by Zeena on January 14, 2006 10:50:35 pm
The person who humiliates other`s faiths, abuses women, misogynistic(women hater), stalks and harrasses stranger women , calls names and repeatedly shows a disturbance of conduct in which rights of others are verbally and psychologically violated or age appropriate societal norms and rules are disregarded with reckless abusive lanuguage towars other`s beliefs comes under the category of sociopath with antisocial disorder. This person is clearly showing severe disturbance in thought process (which is very sharp and fine in an intelligent person with chemical balance) , this thought process in such individuals becomes disturbed , crude and rough with chemical imbalance , mostly congenital or developmentally blocked neuro- transmitters with the passege of years, it becomes more and more evident and specially at an older age, such disturbed individual looses all the neuronal control of already recessed neurones and becomes more and more neurotic, at the end , could be suicidal and homicidal as well.
Such disturbed psychopath has a pervasive pattern of disregard or disrespect for and violation of the rights of others. In their disturbed personality, there is a complete failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviours as indicated by repeatedly performing abuse for others , which are grounds for their arrest and for their psychotherapy. This person`s deceitfulness as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases and conning others and their faiths for personal pleasures or profits, reflecting impulsivity to lack of self control, to think wisely ,lack of remorse for others feelings as being indifferent to or rationalizing hurting other`s feelings and emotions,extremely manipulative in doing schemes to gain easy notoriety, playing mindless games by writting thought less articles, disbelief in conventional system of morality, reckless disregard for others religions and faiths and emotions, consistent irresponsibility to honor or to respect others religions.
, this person appears to lack a conscience by the way of lack of remorse for these actions.
Such sadomasochistic person loves to cause others pain by being psychologically abusive, verbally abusive or physically and sexually abusive, who experiences extreme arousal and pleausre in inflicting pain on others and then in return from others. This person is co called moral sadomasochistic, who seeks humiliations and failures, rather than physical pains, they humiliate others faiths in their writtings to torture others with demeaning and humiliation to gain their arousal.Another evidence is such person has lack of concerns for their antisocial actions, they lack clear insight for the immediate environment with damage to the fronal lobe of this person`s brain.
This is exactly my analysis for the author of this article.
References:-LLD(vulnerability to delinquency)
Holmes J:- mis configuration and structured ambiguity.
PS:-This author needs insight oriented psychotherapy behind the bars. thanks
Such disturbed psychopath has a pervasive pattern of disregard or disrespect for and violation of the rights of others. In their disturbed personality, there is a complete failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviours as indicated by repeatedly performing abuse for others , which are grounds for their arrest and for their psychotherapy. This person`s deceitfulness as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases and conning others and their faiths for personal pleasures or profits, reflecting impulsivity to lack of self control, to think wisely ,lack of remorse for others feelings as being indifferent to or rationalizing hurting other`s feelings and emotions,extremely manipulative in doing schemes to gain easy notoriety, playing mindless games by writting thought less articles, disbelief in conventional system of morality, reckless disregard for others religions and faiths and emotions, consistent irresponsibility to honor or to respect others religions.
, this person appears to lack a conscience by the way of lack of remorse for these actions.
Such sadomasochistic person loves to cause others pain by being psychologically abusive, verbally abusive or physically and sexually abusive, who experiences extreme arousal and pleausre in inflicting pain on others and then in return from others. This person is co called moral sadomasochistic, who seeks humiliations and failures, rather than physical pains, they humiliate others faiths in their writtings to torture others with demeaning and humiliation to gain their arousal.Another evidence is such person has lack of concerns for their antisocial actions, they lack clear insight for the immediate environment with damage to the fronal lobe of this person`s brain.
This is exactly my analysis for the author of this article.
References:-LLD(vulnerability to delinquency)
Holmes J:- mis configuration and structured ambiguity.
PS:-This author needs insight oriented psychotherapy behind the bars. thanks
#117 Posted by pmishra2 on January 15, 2006 7:41:38 am
Good job flushing out the islamo-supremacists. With comments like this from educated people, no wonder extremist islam is routine and mainstream in pakistan.
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This is nothing but a balant case of out right blasphemy, don`t play with our beliefs. Rest that in peace, please
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This is nothing but a balant case of out right blasphemy, don`t play with our beliefs. Rest that in peace, please
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#118 Posted by nasah on January 15, 2006 9:16:37 am
dear Zeena -- how many times you are going to call a piece of trash a trash -- just calm down -- enough is enough -- you may be religious but certainly not a fundo -- so let Hamzad go.....
#119 Posted by Zeena on January 15, 2006 6:50:22 pm
#118
nasah
Yes, i agree with you. But, hey just read my post #115. That is my answer. I will call this insanity million times, if, i have to.
I am nor religious, neither fundo. I am a good human being, who stands up for her values and who knows , how to respect other`s faiths.Thanks
#119 pmishra2
You are wrong, absolutely wrong. So, you are saying. All of us should be proud of this trash, which humiliates our faiths. So, in your view this is the criteria for education. Wow.
You`re wonderful, I wish , Pakistan has majority of people like you who support humiliation of others faiths
I am absolutely not extremist pseudoIslamist,but, hey , I keep my faith very dear to me.
If, you respect your parents , your faiths and other human beings feelings, that is what education is! Education makes you sane. Education doesn`t make you rough and insane, which this article is.
nasah
Yes, i agree with you. But, hey just read my post #115. That is my answer. I will call this insanity million times, if, i have to.
I am nor religious, neither fundo. I am a good human being, who stands up for her values and who knows , how to respect other`s faiths.Thanks
#119 pmishra2
You are wrong, absolutely wrong. So, you are saying. All of us should be proud of this trash, which humiliates our faiths. So, in your view this is the criteria for education. Wow.
You`re wonderful, I wish , Pakistan has majority of people like you who support humiliation of others faiths
I am absolutely not extremist pseudoIslamist,but, hey , I keep my faith very dear to me.
If, you respect your parents , your faiths and other human beings feelings, that is what education is! Education makes you sane. Education doesn`t make you rough and insane, which this article is.
#120 Posted by teshah on January 17, 2006 4:47:50 pm
#11 by HP
``It is not just offensive, it is outrageously offensive! A little humor might have put some life in the article.``
Just as Ibrahim is stated to have done with the idols worshipped by his people and the Yamanies did to the `BlackStone` worshipped by the Muslims by fixing it in a latrine, as the history tells us, in their futile attempt to put an end to what they considered to be a blatant `Shirk`. In fact every new thought, new ideology, new religion, etc., can be considered to be offensive if judged by the values of the existing one. One should not however be allowed to go on rampage against the human rights acting on his dreams, hallucinations, etc..
``It is not just offensive, it is outrageously offensive! A little humor might have put some life in the article.``
Just as Ibrahim is stated to have done with the idols worshipped by his people and the Yamanies did to the `BlackStone` worshipped by the Muslims by fixing it in a latrine, as the history tells us, in their futile attempt to put an end to what they considered to be a blatant `Shirk`. In fact every new thought, new ideology, new religion, etc., can be considered to be offensive if judged by the values of the existing one. One should not however be allowed to go on rampage against the human rights acting on his dreams, hallucinations, etc..
#121 Posted by Zeena on January 17, 2006 5:29:18 pm
#120 teshah
{{{One should not however be allowed to go on rampage against the human rights acting on his dreams, hallucinations, etc.. }}}
WoW, if, we go by your suggestion, then let schizophrenics kill others , just to respect their delusions and hellucinations that the voices tell them to kill others, to set fire, to steal, to humiliate others faiths, to rape.
So, what, if someone will be killed, raped, humiliated, at least we will obey basic human right to act and respect for others hullicinations of murdering, raping and humiliating others faiths.
Wondeful.
Wonderful, you`re great!!
{{{One should not however be allowed to go on rampage against the human rights acting on his dreams, hallucinations, etc.. }}}
WoW, if, we go by your suggestion, then let schizophrenics kill others , just to respect their delusions and hellucinations that the voices tell them to kill others, to set fire, to steal, to humiliate others faiths, to rape.
So, what, if someone will be killed, raped, humiliated, at least we will obey basic human right to act and respect for others hullicinations of murdering, raping and humiliating others faiths.
Wondeful.
Wonderful, you`re great!!
#122 Posted by mannyd on January 18, 2006 3:35:38 am
To all the Mullahs, male or females: You Islamists are shouting `Blasphemy` at this article, while ignoring your own offenses against two billion Hindus and Budhists. Should I count the ways how?
#123 Posted by mannyd on January 18, 2006 3:40:43 am
Would you consider a revealed book out of San Felipe coming out tomorrow or next week that totally ignores San Francisco or Mayan Pyramids, a word from Xaztyen, the new name for new God per the new revealation?
#124 Posted by mannyd on January 18, 2006 3:44:36 am
How about the son of Bhagwan Rajnesh, who may be planning a new commune in North Dakota, based on the Kama Sutra? Are you vile creatures going to mock the new faith of all the beverley Hills New Agers? Shame on you Zeena, Tsk, tsk, tsk and double tsk!!
#125 Posted by mannyd on January 18, 2006 3:51:37 am
Nasah #118: `you may be religious but certainly not a fundo -- so let Hamzad go.....`
You have found a way to differentiate between `religious and fundo`. What is it? Please do explain.
Why are you letting Hamzad go? If you can not answer Hamzad`s questions, who else will? Tahmed or YLH? If not now, when? Please do not hide behind the `blasphemy` shield, unless Allah has ordained YOU to take His divine law into your own hands and you can prove it.
You have found a way to differentiate between `religious and fundo`. What is it? Please do explain.
Why are you letting Hamzad go? If you can not answer Hamzad`s questions, who else will? Tahmed or YLH? If not now, when? Please do not hide behind the `blasphemy` shield, unless Allah has ordained YOU to take His divine law into your own hands and you can prove it.
#126 Posted by Zeena on January 18, 2006 7:31:20 am
mannyd
shame on you. Double shame on you. When did I humiliate hindu or any other faiths. Same on you for lying. Shame on you for calling me fundo and extremists, with out even reading my responses.
Again, I am saying out very loud, this shameless creature who humiliates others faiths is insane. And, also, who supports this piece of trash is also insane.
Talking about new cults. So, listen there are millions of cults in the world. Let them be.
But,if, the same very cult will come and humiliates my faith , then I will call them insane.
Why are you indulging hinduisam in this ? This isn`t about your faith. But, even if it would have been humiliation about Hinduism, I would call it insane. tsk,tsk,tsk on your prejudiced mind.
shame on you. Double shame on you. When did I humiliate hindu or any other faiths. Same on you for lying. Shame on you for calling me fundo and extremists, with out even reading my responses.
Again, I am saying out very loud, this shameless creature who humiliates others faiths is insane. And, also, who supports this piece of trash is also insane.
Talking about new cults. So, listen there are millions of cults in the world. Let them be.
But,if, the same very cult will come and humiliates my faith , then I will call them insane.
Why are you indulging hinduisam in this ? This isn`t about your faith. But, even if it would have been humiliation about Hinduism, I would call it insane. tsk,tsk,tsk on your prejudiced mind.
#127 Posted by Zeena on January 18, 2006 6:00:14 pm
Dear chowk staff and chief-editor
Chowk guidelines are crystal clear about certain topics. I post those guidelines for other interactors and editor-in-chief.
In order to protect this freedom for all Chowkwalas, it is necessary to adhere to the rules of good conduct as spelled out below.
Please refrain from frivolous statements that are inflammatory towards any race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, religion or other personal discriminations.........
With all due respect
sincerely
Zeena
Chowk guidelines are crystal clear about certain topics. I post those guidelines for other interactors and editor-in-chief.
In order to protect this freedom for all Chowkwalas, it is necessary to adhere to the rules of good conduct as spelled out below.
Please refrain from frivolous statements that are inflammatory towards any race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, religion or other personal discriminations.........
With all due respect
sincerely
Zeena
#128 Posted by Zeena on January 18, 2006 6:28:12 pm
Dear chowk staff and chief editor
Please, pardon me for posting irrelevant post here.
I wish all of us could have maturity to adhere to chowk interact guidelines. Not only on front page, but, on unplugged as well.
I also wish our chief editor could set an example of adhering to the same guideline, when publishing any article as well.
submitted with all due respect.
Please, pardon me for posting irrelevant post here.
I wish all of us could have maturity to adhere to chowk interact guidelines. Not only on front page, but, on unplugged as well.
I also wish our chief editor could set an example of adhering to the same guideline, when publishing any article as well.
submitted with all due respect.
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