Hamzaad January 10, 2006
#17 Posted by pmishra2 on January 10, 2006 10:36:01 am
My friend you belong to the wrong faith to pull these stunts off. Let us hope no calls for violence and ostracism are made here and elsewhere.
Satire and leg-pulling are fine for deluded western christians, excessively liberal jews and cowardly hindus or buddhists. In these retarded civilizations, you can immerse a cross in urine, make jokes about moses and jesus, throw chappals at moorti of Rama, write a filmi spoof on the mahabharata. The stupid buddha fellow even made jokes about himself as unnecessary and unimportant in the big picture of things.
How dare you malign the truly noble faith (even tho` this fanatic Abraham is actually borrowed from the jews :-) !! Have you no shame !
Satire and leg-pulling are fine for deluded western christians, excessively liberal jews and cowardly hindus or buddhists. In these retarded civilizations, you can immerse a cross in urine, make jokes about moses and jesus, throw chappals at moorti of Rama, write a filmi spoof on the mahabharata. The stupid buddha fellow even made jokes about himself as unnecessary and unimportant in the big picture of things.
How dare you malign the truly noble faith (even tho` this fanatic Abraham is actually borrowed from the jews :-) !! Have you no shame !
#18 Posted by nasah on January 10, 2006 10:37:55 am
``What kaka has done with the alternative account of Eed celebration, is to take away the supernatural elements of a powerful story about love for one`s children, responsibility for one`s cattle and the water cycle and endowed it with the believabilty of a socio-economo-psycho perspective. ``(Hamzad)
now this paragraph IS funny.......:)
now this paragraph IS funny.......:)
#19 Posted by khamkhwa. on January 10, 2006 10:45:15 am
...it is a pity that to retain ‘popularity’ Chowk has to resort to flimsy tabloid yellow. it is delusional to think of this Chowk under the ever-whiner as an iconoclastic avatar of her usual diatribes....
..this atrociously written and edited piece appears to be a deliberate attempt to create a divide on the second most important holiday for muslims. shame on chowk editors and publishers...
...while hamzaad suffers from dementia i wonder how long this policy to deliberately provoke and scandalize its readership would last? the only thing worse than this atrocious piece is his response # 13...
ps: i am sure you all know what a ``lullee`` is...just the right thing for the article and chowk-;)
..this atrociously written and edited piece appears to be a deliberate attempt to create a divide on the second most important holiday for muslims. shame on chowk editors and publishers...
...while hamzaad suffers from dementia i wonder how long this policy to deliberately provoke and scandalize its readership would last? the only thing worse than this atrocious piece is his response # 13...
ps: i am sure you all know what a ``lullee`` is...just the right thing for the article and chowk-;)
#20 Posted by khamkhwa. on January 10, 2006 10:53:04 am
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#21 Posted by FarzanaVersey on January 10, 2006 10:54:33 am
As editor I stand by the publication of this piece. Re. its quality of writing or ideas expressed, I assume the readers have a choice to ignore or to vocalise their point of view.
It is topical and takes a stand, whether or not one agrees with it. That is the bottomline where an article on `In Site` is concerned.
Should anyone have another POV that is eulogistic but has a definite perspective, they are welcome to send it.
As a writer I have not spared icons, religious or otherwise, and borne the brunt of disagreement.
The same standards apply across the board and am glad that there are voices that can fathom that.
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To the writer: Yes, I have edited out bits...cuss words. You might like to thank me for that.
It is topical and takes a stand, whether or not one agrees with it. That is the bottomline where an article on `In Site` is concerned.
Should anyone have another POV that is eulogistic but has a definite perspective, they are welcome to send it.
As a writer I have not spared icons, religious or otherwise, and borne the brunt of disagreement.
The same standards apply across the board and am glad that there are voices that can fathom that.
- - -
To the writer: Yes, I have edited out bits...cuss words. You might like to thank me for that.
#22 Posted by masanamuthu on January 10, 2006 10:59:48 am
#13 hamzaad,
thanks for the writeup... both the original and the satire.. it is funny..
usually, these stories portray some kind of motives about the story teller. I wonder if this dude suspected the birth of his child (when he was 100) and decided to kill by invoking god`s name. The second story about leaving his concubine and the child by invoking god makes perfect sense..
:-))
thanks for the writeup... both the original and the satire.. it is funny..
usually, these stories portray some kind of motives about the story teller. I wonder if this dude suspected the birth of his child (when he was 100) and decided to kill by invoking god`s name. The second story about leaving his concubine and the child by invoking god makes perfect sense..
:-))
#23 Posted by hab on January 10, 2006 11:27:12 am
It is hurtful. Kaka/HP and Salman Rushdie are the same man.
#24 Posted by Zeena on January 10, 2006 11:35:59 am
The writter of this article is just a shameless creature who does not have an IQ of even 20 to handle a word, called (respect and honour).
and, then due to his mental deficiency, is unable to apply that socially.
Well, My dear Farzana versey,
If, publishing this piece pf crap makes you feel more POWERFUL and over controlled as a cheif editor, I may not respect you as a cheif editor, that I began to do.
I object to this crap, which is not even funny.
This nick has been posting crap before, no body pays attention to. He is craving for attention. So, he found another retarded way of getting attention by dis respecting people`s faiths.
If, Chief editor stands by this retard for his this crap. Then I have all the right to stand against this crap. Seeing this article, I must say, Farzana Versey, Chowk sucks. Now, delete my post.
and, then due to his mental deficiency, is unable to apply that socially.
Well, My dear Farzana versey,
If, publishing this piece pf crap makes you feel more POWERFUL and over controlled as a cheif editor, I may not respect you as a cheif editor, that I began to do.
I object to this crap, which is not even funny.
This nick has been posting crap before, no body pays attention to. He is craving for attention. So, he found another retarded way of getting attention by dis respecting people`s faiths.
If, Chief editor stands by this retard for his this crap. Then I have all the right to stand against this crap. Seeing this article, I must say, Farzana Versey, Chowk sucks. Now, delete my post.
#25 Posted by Zeena on January 10, 2006 11:47:08 am
Dear Farzana Versey
Chief editor of chowk.com
Dear Madam
Let me remind you of chowk guide line, which need to implement on Front Page, which is very important reflection for the whole chowk.
In order to protect this freedom for all Chowkwalas, it is necessary to adhere to the rules of good conduct as spelled out below.
Please refrain from frivolous statements that are inflammatory towards any race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, religion or other personal discriminations.
PS:-It is sad that I have to remind you of this guideline. While you are chief-editor, who should do this job. Sorry, Farzana dear, by publishing this piece of retarded crap, you did not fullfill your job with all honesty of your heart. You are equally culprit for victimizing peoples faiths for no reason along with this retard.
Do you think, this piece of crap will take chowk far? Absolutely NOT.
Yes, it will take it`s chowkies FAR., which will start avoiding chowk like a plague.
Thank you very much .
Chief editor of chowk.com
Dear Madam
Let me remind you of chowk guide line, which need to implement on Front Page, which is very important reflection for the whole chowk.
In order to protect this freedom for all Chowkwalas, it is necessary to adhere to the rules of good conduct as spelled out below.
Please refrain from frivolous statements that are inflammatory towards any race, nationality, ethnicity, gender, religion or other personal discriminations.
PS:-It is sad that I have to remind you of this guideline. While you are chief-editor, who should do this job. Sorry, Farzana dear, by publishing this piece of retarded crap, you did not fullfill your job with all honesty of your heart. You are equally culprit for victimizing peoples faiths for no reason along with this retard.
Do you think, this piece of crap will take chowk far? Absolutely NOT.
Yes, it will take it`s chowkies FAR., which will start avoiding chowk like a plague.
Thank you very much .
#26 Posted by _digit on January 10, 2006 11:48:20 am
Farzana,
Your response almost seems automated. That is to say, it`s entirely predictable.
The timing is what is at issue here, and is (rightly) seen as a deliberate stab at Muslims.
There is little academic merit to this article, and it`s tone and arguably it`s purpose is no doubt to do exactly what many of us perceive - jab, jab, jab...yuck yuck. Eid f*cking Mubarak, you stupid Muslims. Yeah, haven`t heard that one before...
Since when has juvenile provocation served as a merit for publication? I take that back...since when has such provocation served as a standard for a QUALITY publication? There is unplugged, no?
The concern is that if chowk degenerates into a stance where it essentially passes off troll-bait as article-material, then the consequences for the site as a whole (if we take this as a trend and not an oversight) in terms of who it attracts as readers/interactors or even publishers seem dire.
The article itself is banal enough to dismiss...it`s no DaVinci code. But the whole ``it`s eid, let`s stick it to the Muslims`` thing gets a bit tired...
Having f-u articles inspire nothing but f-u interacts...is this what Chowk is about? Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! I got other places to get that kind of attitude...
Your response almost seems automated. That is to say, it`s entirely predictable.
The timing is what is at issue here, and is (rightly) seen as a deliberate stab at Muslims.
There is little academic merit to this article, and it`s tone and arguably it`s purpose is no doubt to do exactly what many of us perceive - jab, jab, jab...yuck yuck. Eid f*cking Mubarak, you stupid Muslims. Yeah, haven`t heard that one before...
Since when has juvenile provocation served as a merit for publication? I take that back...since when has such provocation served as a standard for a QUALITY publication? There is unplugged, no?
The concern is that if chowk degenerates into a stance where it essentially passes off troll-bait as article-material, then the consequences for the site as a whole (if we take this as a trend and not an oversight) in terms of who it attracts as readers/interactors or even publishers seem dire.
The article itself is banal enough to dismiss...it`s no DaVinci code. But the whole ``it`s eid, let`s stick it to the Muslims`` thing gets a bit tired...
Having f-u articles inspire nothing but f-u interacts...is this what Chowk is about? Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! I got other places to get that kind of attitude...
#27 Posted by Zeena on January 10, 2006 12:07:20 pm
Farzana Versey
Is that what you want chowk to be? Is that where you`re leading chowk to? Is that what you call intellectualism with unflinching idealism is? Is this the chowk, where people spend their precious times and energies , just to read this piece of crap, which is degradation to chowk and to other`s faiths?
Is chowk unable to attract chowkies and now, is doing all these third rated publications to have more viewers? What is the point here??
Seriously, I do not understand. Why ? Why hitting on people`s faith? What message does Farzana Versey wishes to convey to us, by publishing this extremely offensive article.
Farzana versey
Why do you think, we should read this humiliation for other`s faiths. Even, if, they will humiliate sikhs, hindus or anyother faiths, it is hurtful.
Is that what you want chowk to be? Is that where you`re leading chowk to? Is that what you call intellectualism with unflinching idealism is? Is this the chowk, where people spend their precious times and energies , just to read this piece of crap, which is degradation to chowk and to other`s faiths?
Is chowk unable to attract chowkies and now, is doing all these third rated publications to have more viewers? What is the point here??
Seriously, I do not understand. Why ? Why hitting on people`s faith? What message does Farzana Versey wishes to convey to us, by publishing this extremely offensive article.
Farzana versey
Why do you think, we should read this humiliation for other`s faiths. Even, if, they will humiliate sikhs, hindus or anyother faiths, it is hurtful.
#28 Posted by nasah on January 10, 2006 12:11:07 pm
I agree with Farzana -- no censorship on Chowk -- it is distasteful on chowk as anywhere else....
howeve the editor has every right to edit the writer and ask the author for the rewrites and revisions of the manuscript upteenth times -- the editor can amend, delete, modify passages, paragraphs, sentences, words with writer`s consent......
A biting good satire on chowk or anywhere does not need the use of expletives -- is more implied than the explicit kamasutra positions....for Virgin Marys -- making the article unnecessarily vulgar and offensive...please
howeve the editor has every right to edit the writer and ask the author for the rewrites and revisions of the manuscript upteenth times -- the editor can amend, delete, modify passages, paragraphs, sentences, words with writer`s consent......
A biting good satire on chowk or anywhere does not need the use of expletives -- is more implied than the explicit kamasutra positions....for Virgin Marys -- making the article unnecessarily vulgar and offensive...please
#29 Posted by Zeena on January 10, 2006 12:22:41 pm
Farzana Versey
I will never agree with you on this.
OK, No censorship on chowk, if, we go by your logic. Then, chowk should be open for xxx rated pictures, esp. on front page, believe me, it will be more tasteful ( or it won`t be distasteful) for crap loving people. You will attract more and more vieweres and chowk will be more popular with real unflinching ideas.
Try that. Why not? If, you can publish this crap, then, why not xxxx crap on chowk front page? No censorship. Wild, wild , wild world.
I will never agree with you on this.
OK, No censorship on chowk, if, we go by your logic. Then, chowk should be open for xxx rated pictures, esp. on front page, believe me, it will be more tasteful ( or it won`t be distasteful) for crap loving people. You will attract more and more vieweres and chowk will be more popular with real unflinching ideas.
Try that. Why not? If, you can publish this crap, then, why not xxxx crap on chowk front page? No censorship. Wild, wild , wild world.
#30 Posted by khamkhwa. on January 10, 2006 12:28:30 pm
#21
As editor I stand by the publication of this piece.
…so gallant.
Re. its quality of writing or ideas expressed, I assume the
readers have a choice to ignore or to vocalise their point of
view.
…this is also par for the course.
It is topical and takes a stand, whether or not one agrees with
it.
…so you are the New Prophet Abraham in your puny mind? The new idol breaker? On this Holy Day you chose to put this atrocious
piece out here?
That is the bottomline where an article on `In Site` is concerned.
…``bottomline`` is TWO words. second phrase is very oblique. speak plainly.
As a writer I have not spared icons, religious or otherwise, and
borne the brunt of disagreement.
…yes i know what a Great Whiner you aspire to be. just
because you get your kicks by taking contrarian positions on almost
every topic you think every one else should do the same?...right??
To the writer: Yes, I have edited out bits...cuss words. You might
like to thank me for that.
…cuss words? is that all you saw in this atrocious diatribe? did
you look at your calendar? did you say to yourself `ah wonderful,
let`s give them muslims a treat?`
…simply put this is nothing but a deliberate effort to be provocative. And like other articles appearing here recently this thinly disguised atrocity is distasteful, and you know it so do we…
Buck raha hun junooN meiN kya kya main
Kuch na samjhay khuda karay koi
As editor I stand by the publication of this piece.
…so gallant.
Re. its quality of writing or ideas expressed, I assume the
readers have a choice to ignore or to vocalise their point of
view.
…this is also par for the course.
It is topical and takes a stand, whether or not one agrees with
it.
…so you are the New Prophet Abraham in your puny mind? The new idol breaker? On this Holy Day you chose to put this atrocious
piece out here?
That is the bottomline where an article on `In Site` is concerned.
…``bottomline`` is TWO words. second phrase is very oblique. speak plainly.
As a writer I have not spared icons, religious or otherwise, and
borne the brunt of disagreement.
…yes i know what a Great Whiner you aspire to be. just
because you get your kicks by taking contrarian positions on almost
every topic you think every one else should do the same?...right??
To the writer: Yes, I have edited out bits...cuss words. You might
like to thank me for that.
…cuss words? is that all you saw in this atrocious diatribe? did
you look at your calendar? did you say to yourself `ah wonderful,
let`s give them muslims a treat?`
…simply put this is nothing but a deliberate effort to be provocative. And like other articles appearing here recently this thinly disguised atrocity is distasteful, and you know it so do we…
Buck raha hun junooN meiN kya kya main
Kuch na samjhay khuda karay koi
#31 Posted by nasah on January 10, 2006 12:33:43 pm
this cloud has a at least one silver lining -- now nobody should accuse Farzana of being partial to Muslims.....:-)
#32 Posted by Zeena on January 10, 2006 12:45:23 pm
Farzana Versey
Seriously, if, you have less numbers of chowkies. And, you believe in no censorship, make this chowk more open by posting xxx rated picutres, which won`t be distasteful. At least, chowk will attract millions of perverts, just like this writter. More and more perverts and more and more popularity. At the end, chowk will change it`s name to pervert.com , x-rated.chowk.perverted. com.
And, when xxx rated pictures would be successful. Then try showing xxx rated perverted movies on chowk, so, that will be more business.
If, you wish thoings should go in that direction, OK be it.
Seriously, if, you have less numbers of chowkies. And, you believe in no censorship, make this chowk more open by posting xxx rated picutres, which won`t be distasteful. At least, chowk will attract millions of perverts, just like this writter. More and more perverts and more and more popularity. At the end, chowk will change it`s name to pervert.com , x-rated.chowk.perverted. com.
And, when xxx rated pictures would be successful. Then try showing xxx rated perverted movies on chowk, so, that will be more business.
If, you wish thoings should go in that direction, OK be it.
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