Harimau Iyer December 25, 2005
#10 Posted by freethinker on December 31, 2005 7:38:17 pm
To all Chowkies:
Haiy tau yeh rasm-e-zamanah, lekan phir bhi
Ho mubarak tumhain yeh saal nya, meray rafiq
Happy New Year
Mohammad Gill
Haiy tau yeh rasm-e-zamanah, lekan phir bhi
Ho mubarak tumhain yeh saal nya, meray rafiq
Happy New Year
Mohammad Gill
#9 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 30, 2005 1:57:21 am
Too many children is disease and its terminal.
Rich countries should not help begging countries till they stop breeding like rats.
They say our country will have 350 million people in 25 years when you think of that I things may be tough now but prsent times will be rememberd as gone by goldendays. Any where in country well to do have less chidren but poor miserable people produce atleast 6 to 8 children as carbon copies as if world is ending tomorrow. We should follow our benefactor china and force people responsible and not breed. But we never pick up good things.
Rich countries should not help begging countries till they stop breeding like rats.
They say our country will have 350 million people in 25 years when you think of that I things may be tough now but prsent times will be rememberd as gone by goldendays. Any where in country well to do have less chidren but poor miserable people produce atleast 6 to 8 children as carbon copies as if world is ending tomorrow. We should follow our benefactor china and force people responsible and not breed. But we never pick up good things.
#7 Posted by pmishra2 on December 28, 2005 9:48:17 am
Thanks for this article. It should be a must-read article for the great left-wing intellectuals of Chowk. I have had similar experiences in the socialist heaven of calcutta.
#6 Posted by dost_mittar on December 27, 2005 2:09:32 pm
harimou:
Thanks for the revisit but, if I may say so, something is missing in this piece which was there in the orginal write-ups. I suspect that you have kept something in reserve for the next instalment(s), for example did your suspicions about their missionary activities turn out to be misfounded? I was also wondering who Josehp R is and why did his presence confirm your suspicions.
Did you meet any of the people you encountered during your first visit to these places a year ago?
Thanks for the revisit but, if I may say so, something is missing in this piece which was there in the orginal write-ups. I suspect that you have kept something in reserve for the next instalment(s), for example did your suspicions about their missionary activities turn out to be misfounded? I was also wondering who Josehp R is and why did his presence confirm your suspicions.
Did you meet any of the people you encountered during your first visit to these places a year ago?
#5 Posted by Kulharee on December 27, 2005 7:37:37 am
Very interesting and informative article. As the writer points out that he, himself, and the NGO workers had certain impressions about the sociological and economic realities of that region. I think that’s where the problem lies with many NGOs. Instead of going and helping the people in need, they spend more time studying them as if they have all the answers. That’s why I like Medecins Sans Frontieres because they go there, treat people, and get out of there without analyzing the crap out of the native populations. If the objective is to re-build the damaged physical infrastructure, then do just that. Don’t worry about he socio-economic infrastructure that has been in place for centuries, it is better fixed by those distressed by it the most.
#4 Posted by Ahmadzai on December 26, 2005 8:01:48 pm
This is a good article providing refreshing break from the normal rut.
#3 Posted by burpinder on December 26, 2005 2:19:34 am
Harimau,
Nice write-up but it has a ``bloody natives`` undertone that left me a little uncomfortable.
I think your discouragement at the villagers` response to your suggestions is understandable, but premature. A friend of mine who runs an NGO involved in educating slum girl children tells me that it takes him at least a year to gain the confidence and trust of the people he was trying to help. You cannot seriously expect anyone to blindly follow an outsider who comes in and dictates the way in which they should live their lives.
Also, I thought the point about the aid workers` missionary zeal was left hanging, whether accidentally or deliberately one can`t tell.
Nice write-up but it has a ``bloody natives`` undertone that left me a little uncomfortable.
I think your discouragement at the villagers` response to your suggestions is understandable, but premature. A friend of mine who runs an NGO involved in educating slum girl children tells me that it takes him at least a year to gain the confidence and trust of the people he was trying to help. You cannot seriously expect anyone to blindly follow an outsider who comes in and dictates the way in which they should live their lives.
Also, I thought the point about the aid workers` missionary zeal was left hanging, whether accidentally or deliberately one can`t tell.
#2 Posted by KaalChakra on December 25, 2005 5:21:25 pm
parthaab
Dunno what this article has to do with the issue of religious subversion, but `hidden,` `gradual,` subversion of unsuspecting, open societies has a very long and tragic history.
Dunno what this article has to do with the issue of religious subversion, but `hidden,` `gradual,` subversion of unsuspecting, open societies has a very long and tragic history.
#1 Posted by parthaab on December 25, 2005 10:55:07 am
Nice article to read.
When only will these westeners realise they might as well pay for this kind of work, then actually work themselves? Services are paid much lower in developing countries then the west.
Strange are the ways of the missionaries.
New converts retain their Hindu names, wear Bindis and sarees and even the fact of conversion from their neighbours and relatives - a gradual rather than `sudden` change which might bring repercussions.
When only will these westeners realise they might as well pay for this kind of work, then actually work themselves? Services are paid much lower in developing countries then the west.
Strange are the ways of the missionaries.
New converts retain their Hindu names, wear Bindis and sarees and even the fact of conversion from their neighbours and relatives - a gradual rather than `sudden` change which might bring repercussions.
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