mehul kamdar February 17, 2006
#7 Posted by harimau on February 19, 2006 12:31:55 am
Ref parthaab #2
[ACCusing Natwar Singh, as a man who played a role in opposing the Iraqi occupation, was at the behest of a `discredited US document`.......]
The Volcker Report used official Iraqi Government documents to identify Natwar Singh as one of the participants in the Oil for Food scam.
You could say that the CIA planted a document with Natwar Singh`s name on it in the Iraqui Government files.
You could also argue that the CIA somehow created backdated bank accounts and transactions between Natwar Singh`s son`s friend Andaleeb Sehgal and the Swiss company that actually sold the oil on their behalf in the international market.
Up to that, it strains credulity but is plausible.
But then somehow the CIA got Natwar Singh and his son Jagat Singh to travel to Iraq and to Jordan on those dates which coincide with the dates on the document.
Perhaps they actually did not travel to Jordan and Iraq and the CIA forged the visas and entry stamps on their passports. But Natwar Singh and Son have not denied that actually travelled to Jordan and Iraq on those days.
Hey, Natwar Singh is a CIA agent! That is why he is not denying that he went to Jordan and Iraq. He is going along with the whole thing and has got forged entries in his passport by those skilled craftsmen in the employ of the CIA.
It is a larger plot by the CIA to get at the Congress Party and Natwar Singh is going along with it!
PS. If you believe Natwar Singh is innocent, I have got a bridge to sell to you.
[ACCusing Natwar Singh, as a man who played a role in opposing the Iraqi occupation, was at the behest of a `discredited US document`.......]
The Volcker Report used official Iraqi Government documents to identify Natwar Singh as one of the participants in the Oil for Food scam.
You could say that the CIA planted a document with Natwar Singh`s name on it in the Iraqui Government files.
You could also argue that the CIA somehow created backdated bank accounts and transactions between Natwar Singh`s son`s friend Andaleeb Sehgal and the Swiss company that actually sold the oil on their behalf in the international market.
Up to that, it strains credulity but is plausible.
But then somehow the CIA got Natwar Singh and his son Jagat Singh to travel to Iraq and to Jordan on those dates which coincide with the dates on the document.
Perhaps they actually did not travel to Jordan and Iraq and the CIA forged the visas and entry stamps on their passports. But Natwar Singh and Son have not denied that actually travelled to Jordan and Iraq on those days.
Hey, Natwar Singh is a CIA agent! That is why he is not denying that he went to Jordan and Iraq. He is going along with the whole thing and has got forged entries in his passport by those skilled craftsmen in the employ of the CIA.
It is a larger plot by the CIA to get at the Congress Party and Natwar Singh is going along with it!
PS. If you believe Natwar Singh is innocent, I have got a bridge to sell to you.
#5 Posted by kaurasach on February 18, 2006 2:13:56 pm
That is Why Indians have been slaves for 20 centuries &^&^^@!@!
They will sell anything, including their Bharat mata.
They will sell anything, including their Bharat mata.
#4 Posted by CheGuevara on February 18, 2006 4:32:36 am
I watched a short documentary about Rajiv on the History Channel , they didn`t mention anything about him supporting Saddam. Interesting that the American media left a major detail like that out about a closet commie, when they didn`t even forgive King Hussein (one of their favourite A-raaab strongmen) for it.
#3 Posted by bjkumar on February 18, 2006 4:23:41 am
The article seems to include a lot of conjecture but you are honest enough to use terms like ``probably``.
This interactor does not hold a high opinion of the Nehru family members that followed Nehru himself. They really built up this whole cult of personality thing in Indian politics. And I detest the likes of the Natwar. But are these people to blame alone?
The sad reality is - there are a lot of bootlicker desis around and have been present for eternity. Corruption is a side effect.
It is probably a part of our history - going all the way back to perhaps people converting under the threat of the sword and local ``kings`` offering their daughters the ``honor`` of becoming second or third string wives to the local ``emperor``.
Those who have the guts to make independent voices heard and are not afraid to get their heads chopped off are few and far between.
And yet we wonder why the country does not lead the pack.
Why every scum-bag tin-pot country can feel they have the power to chop off Indian heads - and gouge out Indian eyes!
Why OUR women get vaginal inspection to prove ``consummation`` at airports, even predating 9/11!
And we take that sort of crap - and we lick it like it were our very own nectar - because we learnt so well to do it at home - subservience has been conditioned right inside those minds - and reinforced repeatedly by the society at large.
And it is even worse with our Pakistani friends - they have the Mullahs and the khakis to contend with - on top of everything else - and don`t even start talking about being a woman there!
On the positive side, I like this healthy trend of some skepticism that is building up in India (and perhaps in Pakistan, for all I know) which probably results from less centralized media. So perhaps there is hope, after all.
You are one of the new writers chowk introduced during my ``brief`` absence. So, welcome and I wish you all the best with your health issues. I posted a short comment on your last article, too.
#2 Posted by parthaab on February 18, 2006 12:30:12 am
True, corruption in India has reached phenomenal proportions.
To ascribe it only to the Congress party however, is a favorite pastime of the BJP in particular, after Bofors (which was played up essentially in the media, but has not been proved in courts - the media, off which Arun Shourie, the man in the center of a large corruption scandal in the BJP government played a prominent role)
Corruption is now accepted as part of politics. Jayalalitha (non Congress), a South Indian film actress, who later entered politics, is now probably one of the richest people in her state.
ACCusing Natwar Singh, as a man who played a role in opposing the Iraqi occupation, was at the behest of a `discredited US document` which has also named several of those opposed to the US as `beneficiaries` of Saddams regime - including George Galloway, the prominent British dissident.
Natwars resignation, was not an indication of his guilt, but rather an acknowledgement of the forces in international politics.
To ascribe it only to the Congress party however, is a favorite pastime of the BJP in particular, after Bofors (which was played up essentially in the media, but has not been proved in courts - the media, off which Arun Shourie, the man in the center of a large corruption scandal in the BJP government played a prominent role)
Corruption is now accepted as part of politics. Jayalalitha (non Congress), a South Indian film actress, who later entered politics, is now probably one of the richest people in her state.
ACCusing Natwar Singh, as a man who played a role in opposing the Iraqi occupation, was at the behest of a `discredited US document` which has also named several of those opposed to the US as `beneficiaries` of Saddams regime - including George Galloway, the prominent British dissident.
Natwars resignation, was not an indication of his guilt, but rather an acknowledgement of the forces in international politics.
#1 Posted by kaptain on February 17, 2006 11:47:39 pm
India is being touted as the Asian Tigers with its rapid economic, I repeat , economic gains through consumer consumption and NRIs but not the Industrial element which is rested and favourite with China.
Issues and scams that have been propping up, lately, make India vulnerable to a fragile infrastructure. The so-called vision of prosperity has been aired and marketed very well, yet there are suspicious endorsers.
The root cause and the solution is to bereft the racket of politicians who are IMPLANTED to keep an eye on the indexes of the stock market, the braindrain, the export of business and not material.
Third World has many enemies and many dreams - and enemies is the lamp which holds the genie called dreams.
Issues and scams that have been propping up, lately, make India vulnerable to a fragile infrastructure. The so-called vision of prosperity has been aired and marketed very well, yet there are suspicious endorsers.
The root cause and the solution is to bereft the racket of politicians who are IMPLANTED to keep an eye on the indexes of the stock market, the braindrain, the export of business and not material.
Third World has many enemies and many dreams - and enemies is the lamp which holds the genie called dreams.
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