Pervez Musharraf Ko Peace Do

HP/27, my connections with Baluchistan are twofold:-

a) Through 7 Baluch, where my family is still held in honour.
b) Through Burma, which I do not wish to explain here.

What the Baluchis want is simple, and not extravagant either. Briefly:-


1- Monitor and higlight the human rights conditions of the Baluch in Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

2- Counter the trend of Taliba`anization in Baluchistan and help end Al Qaeda sleeping cells in all Baluch territories.

3- End nuclear testing on the soil of Baluchistan and getting the sites of the Chagai test opened for international inspections.

4- Endeavor to end the patriarchal Sardari system in Baluchistan.

5- Struggle to get full acceptance of African and mixed raced Baluch as equals in the Baluch diaspora.

6- End the oppression of Baluchi women, tribeless looris, and other minority groups within Baluch society.

7- Defeat moves to declare Zikris as non-Muslims.

8- Work with all Baluch opposition groups that are targets of victimization by Pakistani and Iranian state forces.

9- Counter moves to build army cantonments on Baluchistan soil.

10- Work in cohesion with other oppressed linguistic groups of southwest and south Asia, especially Sindhis and Pashtuns.

11- Inculcate respect for all great religious traditions of the world, especially Christianity,
Hinduism, Judaism and Buddhism among the Baluch.

12- Create awareness of Baluchistan, its issues and its people among the secular democracies of the United States, European Union, Canada, India and Israel.

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Enough for you, or do you also want a map of Baluchistan?

Bbabu 32:

Obviously...

But then identify the real problem...

What is India`s role or what should be its role?

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Your family is still held in honour... still cashing your father`s name eh Mr Malik? The Baloch regiment is part of the Pakistan Army- which is the part of the problem anyway...

You have NO connection to Balochistan... the Baloch tribes- the ones fighting against the pakistan army- would have a Hindu like you for breakfast... talk about talibanisation.

``through burma which I do not wish to explain here``

Ah- the man of mystery... do you think you are James Bond- or the Indian version of James Bond Mr Malik... you have no connection through Burma- get a life and give up your fantasies... you are NOT an army officer... you don`t fly jets ... you are not a RAW agent... and you are definitely no James Bond... Look at yourself in the mirror for god`s sake man!

actually the pak army can have the baluchis for breakfast, lunch and dinner thank you very much. and this is not an idle claim because it was pak army that conqured afghanistan by defeating the elements that beat soviet union. akber bugti`s outfit is a mom and pop opeartion compared to them. also in case people have not noticed, 12 iranian soldiers have been kidnapped from inside iran from an area close to baluchistan border. kidnapping is a message to iranians to tighten their act and stop the flow of support to baluchis. iranians will see the light pretty soon.

How did this discussion veer off to Balochistan of all places? Is one random statement by India enough to start a whole different point of discussion between Indian and Pakistani posters???

Farzan,
nice writing.To tell you the truth I comprehend your article for the first time
`The uprising in Baluchistan goes back to the 70s; we felt no concern at the time. Suddenly, we wake up and start questioning the authority of the Pakistani military to use guns and helicopters against the innocents`
right you are ,India has no authority to talk about our internal affairs.
as far as kashmir is concerned , musharraf is keen to solve it .it`s India who is not ready to leave that part.

Re:faisaluno#35

Vow, it must feel really good conquering your own citizens!! This is not the first time. Pak army has been conquering Pakistan for the past 60 years.

And puhleeze!! Dont boast about Afghanistan. The pushtoons under the Taliban flag conquered Afghanistan. If the Pak army ventured there, the Afghans would have made keema out of you. If you try any pangas with India, the Sikhs and Rajputs will make keema out of you. So the only people you can kick around are the poor Baluchi tribes.

Stuka...

It happens... when the Indian in question is none other than Veeresh Bond, the man who doubles as an airline food critic during the day and fights Pakistani oppression at night.

Maybe Ms. Versey is Mantolives in drag. H`m.

Sadna,

Pathetic as usual... is all I can say.

Now what would make you say something like that. Come to think of it you do resemble Veeresh a lot in real life. Are you Veeresh?

ranjit man, why would pak want to attack a dirt poor stink hole country full of smelly diseased people like india? plus pakistanis kicked hindus and sikhs out of pak cause we did not want to live next door to them. so we certainly dont want army to go into india.

``Let us stop this charade. If we cannot trust President Musharraf, then let us be honest and upfront and tell him, “Look sir, you are a liar, a cheat, a dictator. ``

And Sir, we not saying the above, Your own people are saying this. Whom should we believe--ourselves, yourselves or your people?

``Incidentally, Musharraf has gone on record to say that he has banned many such organisations and those that have come up under different guises are in the ‘watch list’.``

But he ensures that the banned outfit has acquired a new name and all the assets of the old outfit have been transferred to a new one.

``He did say that he would invite Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to attend any of the matches in the series being played in Pakistan, ``

Yes. A Cricket Ground is the best place to discuss contentious diplomatic issues. Put up a proposal, wait for the bowler to ball and batsman to hit. If its a four, we go this way.If its a six, we go that way. If its a single, we go another way. And by the time match ends, we would have made much progress which otherwise would not have been possible.

``I would put my money on trusting Pervez Musharraf. ``

You would be inviting CBI/I.Tax people for flaunting you (illgotten) money.

Thanks for the article. I think the anchor in that CNN-IBN interview was a typical specimen of the mentality some Indians have. He interrupted Musharraf several times, was absolutely impolite and uncultured - I wonder how he got to interview Musharraf in the first place. Musarraf should have ignored the idiot, instead of engaging in the argument.

Dear Farzana

You hav a valid point.

Each Govt in India since indepandence could not figure out how to deal with pakistan. Everytime they dealt with Pakistan they treated it as equal. This is India`s weak position.

Indira Gandhi had a golden oppurtunity in 1971 to fix Pakistan but she blew it up, because she was a politically a bully. Where inaction was required she activly sent the Indian Army in the disguise of Mukti Bahini. If she had not sent the Indian Army in Bangladesh guess what Musharraf today would have been fighting in Dhaka instead of sermonising the Indians.

Intervention in Bangladesh in 1971 was India`s biggest mistake. Indira Gandhi the darkest chapter in the Indian History wasted the golden oppurtunity of not doing any thing and reaping golden reward.

But now the world has changed and we will have to wait for another 50 years. Becauise in 50 Wahabi`s will be out of petrol and so will be rest of the Muslim world and then no body will care for them and as in the begining of 2o th century they will be back in the desert and discuss the words of Allah with their sheeps and Camels. I don`t think India has any other option for that reason even the West will have to wait for another 50 years.

Mantolives # 4 [I believe Musharraf is sincere in all that he wants - modern pluralist relatively secular Pakistan, women`s rights, stable democracy and peace with India...]

According to Mantolives:

- Pakistanis are willing to get women and children of other Pakistanis who beg to differ blown to bits by missile totting army, so that we can have a pluralist Pakistan.
- Pakistanis are willing to get ruled by a dictator, so that so we can have a stable democracy.
- Pakistanis are willing to have their leader tell the world that women get raped to get canadian visa, just that we can get women`s rights

There is no telling what this deranged fellow can spew.