AMU at the Crossroads

Are there any hindus who actually want to attend AMU? For what? Can they get a job afterwards?

The general problem with all the Muslims, including, Indian Muslims, is that they see the world through the periscope of Arabia and the Middle-east. The rest of the world, its culture, its thought process, history etc. does not exists from them. What is required for the benefit for all the Muslims is that they are taken out of their this Arabian mindset.

The institutions like AMU in fact promote this kind of isolation amongst the Muslims. In case, some kind of reservations is indeed required by Muslims in professional courses like Engineering and Medicine, then instead of confining it to just one institution and labelling it with ``Minority`` status, it would be much wiser to distribute the seats of this one institution to other centers.

The revoking of Minority status of AMU by the HC is a step in the right direction.

# 38,
LOL, mad ani, is clearly schizophrenic, he is hallucinating most of the times.

re:#36 by ahmedmadani
Ahmed ``mad``ani,
I think u should not worry too much about cricket. That can cause you more headaches and make your ``schizophrenia`` worse.
Cricket is the only thing where Pakis come together. In everything else, they seem to be fighting each other. It is also the only thing where Pakis have a chance to beat the Indians.
BTW, what is your ``zaat``, Mr ``Mad``ani? Perhaps you are simply a ``badzaat``.
Sridhar

Indian cricket needs reservations. I am told Mr. Ganguli ( Bengali brahmin),Kumble, Dravid ( Madrasi brahmins), Agarkar and Tendulkar ( marathi brahmins) are all bhats. This is too much almost 50% seats on team of brahmins. While brahmin numbers are less than 3% and falling fast as they breed less compared to others but seat of 50%. Brahmin politicians do that trick. Communist bengal Chief minister is brahmin so he plays politics and gets Ganguli in team, Dravid and kumble full backing from madrasi chief minister lady and sharad pawar marathi brahmin so Tendular and Agarkar get definite seat. This is reservation in reserve.
While low paying jobs all reserved for backward people, when I asked fellow traveller why all airhostess on indian airlines ugly.( I had visited few years back).
Anyway that ganguli is easy target for Pindi express, he took good catch yesterday. Our captain is doing harm to team by not giving more time to Pindi express. Express is like big jumbo jet it takes time to control so has to have run. He was about to get deadly and fast but they changed balling at wrong time, express need time to fine tune then its bulldozer machine will bury indians.
Education is overemphasized in India they should look more in business in making money. May be its has become prerequisite to get husband or wife in India, Pathetic situation I guess. There are no jobs and people are fighting to waste their youthful years.

Indian cricket needs reservations. I am told Mr. Ganguli ( Bengali brahmin),Kumble, Dravid ( Madrasi brahmins), Agarkar and Tendulkar ( marathi brahmins) are all bhats. This is too much almost 50% seats on team of brahmins. While brahmin numbers are less than 3% and falling fast as they breed less compared to others but seat of 50%. Brahmin politicians do that trick. Communist bengal Chief minister is brahmin so he plays politics and gets Ganguli in team, Dravid and kumble full backing from madrasi chief minister lady and sharad pawar marathi brahmin so Tendular and Agarkar get definite seat. This is reservation in reserve.
While low paying jobs all reserved for backward people, when I asked fellow traveller why all airhostess on indian airlines ugly.( I had visited few years back).
Anyway that ganguli is easy target for Pindi express, he took good catch yesterday. Our captain is doing harm to team by not giving more time to Pindi express. Express is like big jumbo jet it takes time to control so has to have run. He was about to get deadly and fast but they changed balling at wrong time, express need time to fine tune then its bulldozer machine will bury indians.
Education is overemphasized in India they should look more in business in making money. May be its has become prerequisite to get husband or wife in India, Pathetic situation I guess. There are no jobs and people are fighting to waste their youthful years.

i think some of us are stuck in the past. the modern education is no more imparted by AMU..the new schools are jamia millia, hamdard in dilli, ajuman-e-islam, saboo siddik and rizvi college in bombay, andhra muslim college and several others in hydrabad etc. the AMU belongs to the past.

P.S:
Just to keep things in perspective, I have been on record that some backward muslim communities (in other words, castes) should be included in the reserved quota for backward castes.

umbertoeco#32,31:

Are you sure you want Singapore to be a model for India?

At its core is not affirmative action but a society which gives equal opportunities to all and strictly controls any divisive tendencies while allowing retention of individual identitis. Muslims in India under this model will certainly get the full protection from the police and state which they do not get in India at the moment.

Singapore tightly controls the activities of its Muslim community through its Islamic Religious Council. The Council decides the Madrassa teaching, controls masjid funds and even approves sermons to be delivered during Jumma prayers to ensure that they do not contain anything against any other religious community. Muslim girls in public schools cannot wear hijab. Singapore ordered all Madrassas to bring their teachings of English, Mathemeatics and Science at par with public schools or lose recognition. Recently, it has asked all Madrassa teachers to go through govt. approved training to ensure that they teach only moderate Islam. If this system was to be introduced in India, the Wahabi-type Islam learnt at Darul Uloom at Deoband and taught at Madrassas would be a thing of the past.

BTW, any school or college whose students or faculty cheered against Singapore would certainly face the wrath of the state at no time at all. I do not know of the current situation but when Singapore`s relations with Maylaysia were strained, Lee Kuan Yieu refused to have Muslim pilots in the Air Force. When the Muslims protested, he replied that he wanted to spare them the agony of firing over their fellow Muslims if there was a fight with Malaysia.

If you wanted to bring the Singapore model to India, contact your local BJP candidate because the Congress or Lalo Yadav or certainly not going to support you.

#6

Hi Vikas,

Thanks for sharing your views with us here.

I would like to take up the ghettoisation comment. I don`t think ghettoisation is a one way process. It is reflection of the state of trust and bomhomie between the two communities.

Singapore`s case is examplary as here the govt. ensures that in every HDB block, all communities have adequate representation. I wish the Indian govt. could follow the example set by a small country like Singapore.

Thanks

#3

Thanks for your views.

You say: ``As an alig, I do think that AMU has a special status, including minority status.``

You think? Even after reading the article, you think? It is the minority status that has been taken away.

As of the reservations, I respect your view. Fifty years of non-affirmative action has done wonders for the Indian Muslims!

This very good article but at this time cricket is important.
India is finished. Pindi express will make sacrafice of indian team. They can not play expess at 160 Km/Hour.

[``gujju..i`m serious...you want good recommendations when you apply to US colleges, don`t you?``]

WTF !! Sue me for being ignorant....but I thought a decent rank at GRE/GMAT was good enough....

The AMU cannot directly discriminate in favour of Muslim students but it can and does so indirectly. This is through its Internal Student Quota for admissions. This quota which roughly fills half of its admissions applies to students who have gone to a Higher Secondary School run by the AMU. Most of the students at this school are Muslims and almost all of those who get admission to the University through this process are Muslims. I do not think that this Interanl Quota system is under any threat. And if it is not, AMU will continue to have Muslim demographics.
The basic problem in India is the poor quality of Madrassa education which is even worse than that provided by government schools. From what I have read, the quality is uneven and some of the Madrassas (in Bihar?) are good enough that many Hindus send their children to them. Someone should try to hold the successful ones as models for others.


Urstruly:
There was only one AMU at the time of the Partition. Now there are at least two others - Jamia Milia University in Delhi and Darul Huda Islamic Academy in Kerala.

I don`t get what Pakistan`s inevitability has to do with anything?

I agree with Amrita and Nasah and avkrishna.

I still stand against any sort of preferential treatment at the Secondary Education or Professional level for anyone.

However, primary education MUST be available to ALL at little to no cost to level the playing field for the future.

This is great. About time we also put a stop to reservations for other religious groups.

Or extend reservations to Govt. funded universities exclusive to Hindus.

Of course, if they are privately funded, then the Govt. has no business interfering.

Thanks,