Sharon’s Legacy

maulana urstruly(or S Mohammad of Dearborn, MI..sadeq?)..you`ll be glad to know that your tax $$ are being put to good use..to kill terrorists where the terrorists are so we don`t have to fight them here..

US missiles blamed for 18 deaths on Pakistan border

By Zeeshan Haider

ISLAMABAD, Jan 13 (Reuters) - A Pakistani security official and residents of a border region said U.S. aircraft from Afghanistan killed 18 people, including women and children, when they fired missiles at pro-Taliban Islamists early on Friday. Pakistani military spokesman Major-General Shaukat Sultan said up to 14 people had been killed in several blasts in the Bajaur tribal region but said he did not know the cause.

The blasts came days after Pakistan, a key ally in the U.S.-led war on terrorism, lodged a strong protest with U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, saying cross-border firing in the nearby Waziristan area last weekend killed eight people.

Residents of Bajaur, opposite Afghanistan`s insurgent-troubled Kunar province, said the explosions were caused by firing from unidentified aircraft on the village of Damadola at about 3 a.m. (2200 GMT Thursday).

jang
[...What did pakistan state do for them[palestinians] except bomb them? ...]

Good question... any answers from the paki brigrade here? ..... not that I really care much on what happens to the palis and arabs.... just curious!!

There used to be a bunch of palis infesting my college [REC] every year - few of them ever complete the course in time [ 4 years]..... most of them just stay on for 8 years and get an NFTE [not fit for technical education] certificate.... a veritable bunch of l00sers..... but they all used to have a lot of money.....

kee meray qatle kay baad usne jafa say toba -- after devastating the Paslestinian land and humiliating and tearing apart the Palestinian psyche to smitherines -- the man would have liked to have died as the peace maker -- perhaps he finally became aware of that cruel HOLE in his HEART...

but guess Israeli God wanted him to continue to pillage, destroy and massacre the occupied men women and children of Palestine.......hence He turned the ferocious Lion into a harmless vegetable overnight -- after warning him first...

.......another take from Reverend Nasah.

now I don`t think that Reverend Nasah is going to aplogize to Omri beta....

``Sharon has been lauded and eulogized by his fawning fans—including a doting George W. Bush—as an indomitable ‘warrior’ and ‘courageous’ soldier.``

he was an ``indomitable ‘warrior’ and ‘courageous’ soldier.`` you may not like his arrogant swagger or his crude, bullying manner but accept the fact that no arab leader in recent history can even close to him. which is sad, since for israelis he does not count as one of their great leaders. there is not a single arab leader who has served his country and people like sharon has his motherland. these baighairat arabs need people like sharon to give them the danda they need.

sabra and shatilla are mentioned all the time, but face the truth, your own amir-ul-momineen (zia-ul-haq) killed more palestinians during the black september uprising than the israelis have since 1947. the israelis to their credit at least had an inquiry against sharon and held him responsible. zia-ul-haq on the other hand was awarded the highest jordanian honor for butchering thousands of palestinians and the saudi pigs used to open the doors of the ka`ba for him every chance they got.

#69 Good point on ``Black September`` (er....I mean amir-ul-momineen) Zia.

#69 noisy israeli democracy somehow seems to have turned up a long list of chiefs who served their country well. this if nothing else is a great advertizement for democracy.

Why does Chowk allow this ``analyst`` to waste its resources? The level of ``analysis`` here is only slightly less asinine than ``the Jews planned 9-11 to discredit Muslims.``


R.A.Janjua

Zia`s role in Black September is still murky. I had thought that he was instrumental in the planning for Black September but Col. De Atkine, who was a US military attache in Jordan in 1970 (http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2002/issue4/jv6n4a2.html), says that Zia took command of a Jordanian division when its GOC deserted his post--he was married to a Palestinian. Zia then became the de facto GOC of the Jordanian 2nd Infantry Division during ``Black September.``

Incidentally, de Atkine completely discounts the stories of mass killings and slaugter of the Palestinians carried out by the Jordanian Army. I think that if Black September had not been carried out, Jordan now (certainly no paradise) would be as dysfunctional as Arafat`s corruption and machinations had made the Palestinian Authority.

re: 72

thanks for the link fuzair - my own understanding had been the same as described by col. de atkine - the then maj. gen. zia-ul-haq took over the command of a jordanian division on his own initiative and played a decisive role in crushing the uprising - that in itself is quite remarkable since it was not even remotely a part of his job description.

many have puzzled over why bhutto picked zia over some very fine and more qualified generals - the usual explantion is that zia used to act like a lapdog in front of him and bhutto had too much of an ego - i am not so sure about this explanation - someone mentioned this to me a long time back, that when maj. gen. zia-ul-haq took that action against the palestinians, he was duly noted by a lot of important people - here was a man with no scruples and ruthless enough to do anything for his ambitions - people like that can be very useful - but all that is ofcourse just speculation.

Re:r.a.janjua #73

Your posting once again reveals the complete hollowness of the ummah concept among muslims. It is a total farce. Pakistani muslims and jordanian muslims butchered palestinians. Yet, you have millions of Pakistanis who have wet dreams about the ummah every day.

Here is the final word on Sharon from one of the great columnists -- Charley Reese enumerating the misdeeds of that evil Man of War -- may his sould rest in in the God of Israel`s Hell that he created for the poor Palestinians men women and children on the Palestinian soil.

Sharon: Not a `Man of Peace`

by Charley Reese

Ariel Sharon, Israel`s prime minister, is for all practical purposes dead.

They might keep his body alive, but if the bleeding was as massive as it`s been reported, then chances of his regaining his mental powers are nil.

Sharon was a great, though controversial, military tactician. I always thought of him as Israel`s George Patton.

He was the father of the settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. He provoked the second intifada. He re-invaded the West Bank and Gaza at a great cost in Palestinian lives. He started the infamous wall in the West Bank area. He was blamed in part by an Israeli commission for the massacres of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon in the 1980s. He himself, in his early career, led a commando raid that massacred a whole village of innocent people in Jordan.

Sharon was a lot of things, but he was not a man of peace.

He never trusted peace. He never trusted the Palestinians. He never negotiated with the Palestinians, and he never intended to.

He and his closest friends must have gotten a great laugh when President George Bush uttered that canard about him being a man of peace. The old man treated Bush and Condoleezza Rice like children, ignoring them when it suited him and easily manipulating them whenever he wanted.

He treated the so-called road map to peace like the joke that it is. As I pointed out, not once in five years did he negotiate with the Palestinians.

One of his cronies admitted in an interview with an Israeli newspaper that the purpose of pulling out of Gaza was to put off negotiating with the Palestinians.

He said they would negotiate with the Palestinians when the Palestinians turned into Finns.

If the Palestinians observed a cease-fire, Sharon would provoke them with attacks and assassinations and then claim he had no partners for peace.

In the meantime, he intended to use the wall to provide for a secure Israel and leave the Palestinians in impossible little ``homelands`` that would make a viable Palestinian state impossible. Sharon`s intention was to do this unilaterally and tell the Palestinians to take it or leave it.

Sharon didn`t mellow with age, but he did come to realize the danger represented by the armies of General Birthrate.

The Arab birthrate is higher than the Jewish birthrate.

If Israel tries to keep all of the Arabs under its control, in not many years there will be more Arabs than Jews in the land. The Zionist goal of a Jewish state, defined as a state with a majority of Jews and a Jewish-controlled government, could then vanish without a shot being fired.

The worry about the peace process in the absence of Sharon is ridiculous. There is no peace process. That`s just something American politicians talk about to hide the fact that they support the Israelis in taking even more of what`s left of Palestinian land.......

it is rumored that Sharon slow poisoned Yasir Arafat to his death -- little did he know Sharon`s own Hell Hole in his own cruel heart -- and his pot belly bulging with the voracious apetite for Palestinian land -- will take him to the same road that he sent Arafat on......

sub thath puraa ruh jave ga jub laad chulay gaa bunjaraa

#76 by nasah on January 15, 2006 8:03am PT

Sharon poisoned himself to death..If he`s alive at 77 and 350pounds, it`s probably because allah loves him and approves of what he`s doing..

Sharon told to go on a diet

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is renowned for his steel will, but there is one thing that just might be stronger than ``the Bulldozer`` - his appetite.

The very overweight leader was released from the hospital Tuesday, two days after suffering a mild stroke, and is under doctors` orders to go on a diet. But aides said he has not yet decided whether to fight his love of all things meaty.

Before the stroke, Sharon reportedly had a meal with family and friends that included hamburgers, steak, lamb chops, shish kebab and chocolate cake. After leaving the hospital, he ate Chinese noodles.

re: 76

everyone has to die one day - i see no reason why you should be so happy about this - are you celebrating the prospect of binyamin netanyahu becoming the next israeli p.m. - he has stated clearly on more than one occasion that all palestinians should be relocated to either jordan or saudi arabia - there is no such thing as the west bank, he says - it is judea and sammara according to him - he is also quite capable of demolishing masjid-i-omar and masjid al-aqsa - and what do you think, you and your ummah will do, when that happens - let me enlighten you - nothing - because the ummah is not capable of doing anything - if the ummah was not busy breeding all the time they would have accomplished something by now - the ummah will vent its anger on the streets by burning shops and cars in their own neighborhoods - and maybe blow up a few things here and there - and that would be the end of it.

#78 by r.a.janjua

I think you are barking the wrong tree. He doesn`t give a fine guck if the whole ummah drops dead into the `tathaa khoo` as it is said in Punjabi. He is more worried about his `commrades` who have been permanently sidelined by the religious nuts in Isreal and the chances that they will ever get any political power are as strong as a seeing a fish riding a bicycle on fine sunday morning. This post should have been addressed to me or someone like me. Anyway meassage is understood. As for celebrating the death of this butcher is concerned here is something that Shah Hussain said in one of his kaafi:

dushman maray te khushi na kariyay
keh sajnaN vi mar jana.

#79 by Urstruly on January 15, 2006 12:38pm PT


This post should have been addressed to me or someone like me.


Someone like you as in people whose tax $$ go to the Israeli state and are probaby being used to keep sharon alive even now?