Ahmer Muzammil April 25, 2006
#111 Posted by echoboom on April 26, 2006 10:18:10 am
bharath--108:
the pain, anguish and tears for pakistan adorning your visage is from the chuuri in your armpit.
the pain, anguish and tears for pakistan adorning your visage is from the chuuri in your armpit.
#112 Posted by bharath on April 26, 2006 10:22:16 am
Re: # 111
You didn`t do well here, understandable.
But I got ur point as I have outlined in #108! :;)
You didn`t do well here, understandable.
But I got ur point as I have outlined in #108! :;)
#113 Posted by bharath on April 26, 2006 10:22:21 am
Re: # 111
You didn`t do well here, understandable.
But I got ur point as I have outlined in #108! :;)
You didn`t do well here, understandable.
But I got ur point as I have outlined in #108! :;)
#114 Posted by wiseguyin on April 26, 2006 10:25:52 am
Re: # 107
Jal rahi hai ???
:)
wait for some more time - and ur leaders will be begging for hinud attention. They have
begun to grovel already.
Jal rahi hai ???
:)
wait for some more time - and ur leaders will be begging for hinud attention. They have
begun to grovel already.
#115 Posted by echoboom on April 26, 2006 10:41:38 am
bharath: 112
thanks for understanding. [:;)] this said more than words
wiseguyin:114
let it be their decision & it will for Pakistanis to praise or punish them for it. You , at your end, would do well to attend to the dhoti-prashaads...to advise them to give alms or armpits to the uniformed beggars.
Thanks in advance for understanding
thanks for understanding. [:;)] this said more than words
wiseguyin:114
let it be their decision & it will for Pakistanis to praise or punish them for it. You , at your end, would do well to attend to the dhoti-prashaads...to advise them to give alms or armpits to the uniformed beggars.
Thanks in advance for understanding
#116 Posted by Kamath on April 26, 2006 11:01:03 am
Why would any one in his right mind like to leave Islam? You tell me. I thoght no one could do that volunteerly except in a coffin. Have you read Abdur Rahman`s case in Afghanistan?
Kamath
Kamath
#117 Posted by Kamath on April 26, 2006 11:09:13 am
If Islamiat is so good above all, then could the author tell me why he has decided live in Dar ul Harb and not chose to live in Dar-ul-Islam? Take your pick from three Islamic paradises; Saudi Arabia, pakistan, Iran ,Sudsan and more for instance!.
#118 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 11:12:24 am
#110, Urstruly {``Please explain to me why MQM government in sindh is not doing anything and havn`t done anything to bring the Pakistanis back in the past 5 years? ...
The fact of the matter is that you people are a hateful, shamelss, and thankless people whose hands are red with the blood of thousands of Punjabis, Pakhtoons, Sindhis, Baluchis, and even your own in the past two decades. ...What happened to you when there was democracy in the country in NS and BB era is known to everyone.``}
Maulana Sahib,
The local provincial government is not allowed to negotiate with foreign governments for the repatriation of Paki citizens. Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first. You know and I know that nothing can happen in Pakistan without the prior approval of Pakistani Punjab - except for the Kalabagh Dam, the first sign of defeat that you guys have had since 1971.
Now, if Mohajirs are so bloody and our hands are red with blood, then why are the Punjabis the ones who are bombing in Wana and Waziristan, in Baluchistan, in PoK - including Gilgit/Baltistan. It appears that Punjabis in their smart uniforms, paid for by the taxes imposed on the citizens of Pakistan, are the ones busy with bloody red hands in killing non-Panjabis. And don`t you dare utter one word about Mushy being a Mohajir and all that. Because if you do, then we will have to designate India as an Islamic country because its head of state is a Muslim. :)
Oh, about what we Mohajirs were doing doing the ``democratic days`` of BB and NS? Yes, we were dying mostly. Some of us were trying to prevent the loot as it made its way from poor ``democratic`` Pakistan to rich ``democratic`` Switzerland. :) It looks like both BB and NS were being ``democratic`` and ``liberal`` with both hands.
I am happy to note that when it comes to Pakistani Punjaibiyat, both mullas and secularists sound about the same.
The fact of the matter is that you people are a hateful, shamelss, and thankless people whose hands are red with the blood of thousands of Punjabis, Pakhtoons, Sindhis, Baluchis, and even your own in the past two decades. ...What happened to you when there was democracy in the country in NS and BB era is known to everyone.``}
Maulana Sahib,
The local provincial government is not allowed to negotiate with foreign governments for the repatriation of Paki citizens. Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first. You know and I know that nothing can happen in Pakistan without the prior approval of Pakistani Punjab - except for the Kalabagh Dam, the first sign of defeat that you guys have had since 1971.
Now, if Mohajirs are so bloody and our hands are red with blood, then why are the Punjabis the ones who are bombing in Wana and Waziristan, in Baluchistan, in PoK - including Gilgit/Baltistan. It appears that Punjabis in their smart uniforms, paid for by the taxes imposed on the citizens of Pakistan, are the ones busy with bloody red hands in killing non-Panjabis. And don`t you dare utter one word about Mushy being a Mohajir and all that. Because if you do, then we will have to designate India as an Islamic country because its head of state is a Muslim. :)
Oh, about what we Mohajirs were doing doing the ``democratic days`` of BB and NS? Yes, we were dying mostly. Some of us were trying to prevent the loot as it made its way from poor ``democratic`` Pakistan to rich ``democratic`` Switzerland. :) It looks like both BB and NS were being ``democratic`` and ``liberal`` with both hands.
I am happy to note that when it comes to Pakistani Punjaibiyat, both mullas and secularists sound about the same.
#119 Posted by ijaz_gul on April 26, 2006 11:24:44 am
MY ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.
Remove the dagger of 295 and that will free many. I talk from experience and lets not endanger the lives of many people in Pakistan by discussing specifics.
Cheerios
Remove the dagger of 295 and that will free many. I talk from experience and lets not endanger the lives of many people in Pakistan by discussing specifics.
Cheerios
#120 Posted by Urstruly on April 26, 2006 11:56:19 am
Re: # 118
So basically you are trying to tell me that MQm`s 15 members of National Assembly, 34 members of Provincial Assembly; and 6 Senators couldn`t even move a resolution in either of the houses for the past 5 years regarding ``stranded Pakistanis`` because Punjabis won`t let them? Can`t they even request for a joint session of the Parliament for this issue, despite being the right hand of the oppressing murderous dictator? What about setting up an NGO in Bangladesh to at least monitor the situation of concentration camps; you people couldn`t even do that either?
The truth finally comes out as `` Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first.`` Like I said you people are basically backstabbers and thankless ``Mohsin-kush``. Probably, that is the reason Sindhis oppose any attempt at bringing the stranded Pakistanis back home, because they rightfully think that these refugees will turn out to be just like you.
So basically you are trying to tell me that MQm`s 15 members of National Assembly, 34 members of Provincial Assembly; and 6 Senators couldn`t even move a resolution in either of the houses for the past 5 years regarding ``stranded Pakistanis`` because Punjabis won`t let them? Can`t they even request for a joint session of the Parliament for this issue, despite being the right hand of the oppressing murderous dictator? What about setting up an NGO in Bangladesh to at least monitor the situation of concentration camps; you people couldn`t even do that either?
The truth finally comes out as `` Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first.`` Like I said you people are basically backstabbers and thankless ``Mohsin-kush``. Probably, that is the reason Sindhis oppose any attempt at bringing the stranded Pakistanis back home, because they rightfully think that these refugees will turn out to be just like you.
#121 Posted by Raw_Dust on April 26, 2006 12:16:21 pm
zeemax:
invisible to me. For them it might be all that matters, good for them. I am one of those whose hearts and minds have been sealed and no redemption now is possible, look at the great Quran, Allah mian says so Himself.
peace.
invisible to me. For them it might be all that matters, good for them. I am one of those whose hearts and minds have been sealed and no redemption now is possible, look at the great Quran, Allah mian says so Himself.
peace.
#123 Posted by tahmed32 on April 26, 2006 12:22:30 pm
Mr. Salim: ever since i admonished you a month ago for trying to suck up to Indians by ridiculing fellow pakistanis and for your gratuitous insults to non-muhajir ethnic groups in Pakistan, you have been calling me all sorts of things - hypocrite, racist and so forth. I have not dignified your allegations with a response.
Now I see Urstruly (with whom I am often at odds on certain issues) is taking you to task with some facts - and showing the mirror to your face of what you have of yourself on chowk on at least (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that in real life you have some more self-respect and dignity than you have been displaying here - as I would for anyone else). Urstruly is obviously more conversant with these facts than I am, and so I can only thank him for taking you to task for your disgusting behavior. It is not me who is the hypocrite - rather you who is the backstabber, as Urstruly has made clear. I agree with Urstruly`s assessment here.
Now I see Urstruly (with whom I am often at odds on certain issues) is taking you to task with some facts - and showing the mirror to your face of what you have of yourself on chowk on at least (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that in real life you have some more self-respect and dignity than you have been displaying here - as I would for anyone else). Urstruly is obviously more conversant with these facts than I am, and so I can only thank him for taking you to task for your disgusting behavior. It is not me who is the hypocrite - rather you who is the backstabber, as Urstruly has made clear. I agree with Urstruly`s assessment here.
#124 Posted by Urstruly on April 26, 2006 12:31:53 pm
Re: # 123 tahmad
I want to make this clear to you and this venomous little punk that I have nothing against Mohajirs, urdu-speaking people, or Krachiites per se. My only bone of contention is with the terrorist outfit that calls itself MQM. These people spew their venom from time to time because only and only ethnic prejudice is the raison de etre of their existence. I have lived among them, worked with them, and endured their genocidal machinery so I know what they are made of.
I want to make this clear to you and this venomous little punk that I have nothing against Mohajirs, urdu-speaking people, or Krachiites per se. My only bone of contention is with the terrorist outfit that calls itself MQM. These people spew their venom from time to time because only and only ethnic prejudice is the raison de etre of their existence. I have lived among them, worked with them, and endured their genocidal machinery so I know what they are made of.
#125 Posted by Raw_Dust on April 26, 2006 2:22:31 pm
Urstruly:
You are right about Nawaz government`s efforts for rehabilitation and resettlement of stranded Pakistanis. MQM in its heyday tried to run the city like a Mafia - it was one of the worst times for karachi city besides their proxy student organization introduced killing and gun violence in educational institutions. Not to mention the whole new concept of torturing political opponents in their underground setups. Military and law enforcement agencies also played an active part in playing these thugs against one another for political gains.
You are right about Nawaz government`s efforts for rehabilitation and resettlement of stranded Pakistanis. MQM in its heyday tried to run the city like a Mafia - it was one of the worst times for karachi city besides their proxy student organization introduced killing and gun violence in educational institutions. Not to mention the whole new concept of torturing political opponents in their underground setups. Military and law enforcement agencies also played an active part in playing these thugs against one another for political gains.
#126 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 2:35:14 pm
#123, Mr. Tahmed,
Just because I am raising an issue that is embarrassing to Pakistanis in general and Pakistani Punjabis in particular, you are now resorting to personal insults. By calling me a ``back-stabber,`` or referring to my viewpoints as ``ridiculing Pakistan,`` you are showing your inherent intolerance for any dissenting views. Morever, you and your Pakistani Punjabi cohorts and tyrants don`t even want this discussion of the plight of ``stranded`` Pakistanis to take place. Shame on you, your hypocrisy, and your so-called ``Muslim`` facade.
I am not surprised at Mullah Urstruly and you being in total agreement on this issue. After all, Panjaibi hegemony is also an issue in Pakistan today. Don`t worry about me - just convince the Baluchis, Pathans, Sindhis, Mohajirs, Kashmiris, Gilgitis, and Baltis about what they think of you and your nefarious intentions. May Allah give you Pakistani Punjabis your just rewards for your perfidy and cruelty.
Just because I am raising an issue that is embarrassing to Pakistanis in general and Pakistani Punjabis in particular, you are now resorting to personal insults. By calling me a ``back-stabber,`` or referring to my viewpoints as ``ridiculing Pakistan,`` you are showing your inherent intolerance for any dissenting views. Morever, you and your Pakistani Punjabi cohorts and tyrants don`t even want this discussion of the plight of ``stranded`` Pakistanis to take place. Shame on you, your hypocrisy, and your so-called ``Muslim`` facade.
I am not surprised at Mullah Urstruly and you being in total agreement on this issue. After all, Panjaibi hegemony is also an issue in Pakistan today. Don`t worry about me - just convince the Baluchis, Pathans, Sindhis, Mohajirs, Kashmiris, Gilgitis, and Baltis about what they think of you and your nefarious intentions. May Allah give you Pakistani Punjabis your just rewards for your perfidy and cruelty.
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