Ahmer Muzammil April 25, 2006
#127 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 2:46:24 pm
#120, Urstruly {``Can`t they even request for a joint session of the Parliament for this issue, despite being the right hand of the oppressing murderous dictator? What about setting up an NGO in Bangladesh to at least monitor the situation of concentration camps; you people couldn`t even do that either?
The truth finally comes out as `` Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first.`` Like I said you people are basically backstabbers and thankless ``Mohsin-kush``. Probably, that is the reason Sindhis oppose any attempt at bringing the stranded Pakistanis back home, because they rightfully think that these refugees will turn out to be just like you.``}
Maulana Sahib,
The truth finally comes out - you don`t want to add to the number of despised Mohajirs in Pakistan. As I said before, several Mohajir activists and Christian missionary organizations are trying to help these unfortunate Muslim Pakistanis. How many of those trying to help are Pakistani Punjaibis? Now, do you understand why I don`t take your Islamic credentials so seriously. You are a Muslim hypocrite just like Tahmed32 is a Pakistani hypocrite. You guys care more about how the Hindus or Indians perceive you external garments, regardless of the leprosy infesting your bodies. Shame on you and your brand of Islam. By the way, Maulana Sahib, these ``stranded Biharis (as you call them)`` are almost all Sunni and not Shia like me or even ``kaffir`` Ahmedis.
The truth finally comes out as `` Maybe, that is the correct approach, but we will have to wait for Karachi/Hyderabad to become independent first.`` Like I said you people are basically backstabbers and thankless ``Mohsin-kush``. Probably, that is the reason Sindhis oppose any attempt at bringing the stranded Pakistanis back home, because they rightfully think that these refugees will turn out to be just like you.``}
Maulana Sahib,
The truth finally comes out - you don`t want to add to the number of despised Mohajirs in Pakistan. As I said before, several Mohajir activists and Christian missionary organizations are trying to help these unfortunate Muslim Pakistanis. How many of those trying to help are Pakistani Punjaibis? Now, do you understand why I don`t take your Islamic credentials so seriously. You are a Muslim hypocrite just like Tahmed32 is a Pakistani hypocrite. You guys care more about how the Hindus or Indians perceive you external garments, regardless of the leprosy infesting your bodies. Shame on you and your brand of Islam. By the way, Maulana Sahib, these ``stranded Biharis (as you call them)`` are almost all Sunni and not Shia like me or even ``kaffir`` Ahmedis.
#128 Posted by HP on April 26, 2006 2:52:42 pm
Mr. Chauhan,
No matter what you say those biharis are not coming to Sindh until Sindhis are absolutely, positively sure that they will not be used for killing people in Pakistan.
Most of them are killers and they collaborated with the same Punjabis you are abusing now, in killing Bengalis. Al badar and Al shams killed more Bengalis than the actual army.
I had already explained it you several times that Punjabis were always willing to take them but Sindhi have always opposed their repatriation. As Urstruly pointed out MQM hasn’t done anything to help them…
Maybe you need some issue-you know something about-to rag on. But your knowledge of this issue is absolutely zero…
Bihari na khappan…and that is all there is to it.
Tappar hojay tau galahiay…
#129 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 2:54:59 pm
#124 Urstruly {``I want to make this clear to you and this venomous little punk that I have nothing against Mohajirs, urdu-speaking people, or Krachiites per se.``}
Maulana Sahib,
Your lame attempt at offering a ``Some of my best friends are Mohajirs`` excuse is not impressing anyone - we know how you truly feel. :)
Skip the flattery - that is also not helping your case.
Meanwhile, I will leave you and Tahmed32 to relish the once in a blue moon moment of being together. Enjoy! and yes, you are welcome. :)
Maulana Sahib,
Your lame attempt at offering a ``Some of my best friends are Mohajirs`` excuse is not impressing anyone - we know how you truly feel. :)
Skip the flattery - that is also not helping your case.
Meanwhile, I will leave you and Tahmed32 to relish the once in a blue moon moment of being together. Enjoy! and yes, you are welcome. :)
#130 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 2:57:27 pm
NEW RULE FOR PAKISTANIS.
SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF YOUR GOVERNMENT IS NORMAL - COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR SUFFERING IS TREASON. WHAT WILL THE INDIANS THINK?
SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF YOUR GOVERNMENT IS NORMAL - COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR SUFFERING IS TREASON. WHAT WILL THE INDIANS THINK?
#131 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 3:08:18 pm
HP #128, {``No matter what you say those biharis are not coming to Sindh until Sindhis are absolutely, positively sure that they will not be used for killing people in Pakistan. Bihari na khappan…and that is all there is to it.
Tappar hojay tau galahiay…``}
Mr. HP,
Is that your final answer?
Speaking of killing, may I remind you that Sindhis have been killing Mohajirs since that rogue and killer himself, Bhutto, said that it was OK to kill Mohajirs. His corrupt daughter continued the practice in zest, when she was not making deposits in Switzerland. So, please don`t try to tell us about Sindhis and their peaceful and honest intentions. Zia hanging Bhutto and then getting blown to bits is quite representative of Sindhi/Punjoo relationships. Perhaps we can ask Advani and his folks to come back and teach you guys how to live peacefully. :)
Tappar hojay tau galahiay…``}
Mr. HP,
Is that your final answer?
Speaking of killing, may I remind you that Sindhis have been killing Mohajirs since that rogue and killer himself, Bhutto, said that it was OK to kill Mohajirs. His corrupt daughter continued the practice in zest, when she was not making deposits in Switzerland. So, please don`t try to tell us about Sindhis and their peaceful and honest intentions. Zia hanging Bhutto and then getting blown to bits is quite representative of Sindhi/Punjoo relationships. Perhaps we can ask Advani and his folks to come back and teach you guys how to live peacefully. :)
#132 Posted by HP on April 26, 2006 3:22:10 pm
#131
Is that your final answer? ``
Babu ji...NO deal!
Advani is a great Sindhi…little misguided but he will always be welcomed in Sindh...
Fardeen Khan is already there...his mother is Sindhi and he would always be welcomed too but Bihari...ask Beej kumar Bihari abt them :)
Anyway, most of the Biharis have already reached Karachi via Bhatinda!
BB and her money in Swiss banks...
I am glad that she made some money and put that in the bank...Saved it from going to Al shams and Al badr.
#133 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 3:27:31 pm
Conclusion according to Maulanas Urstruly, Buttees Baba, and HP:
Yes, Muslim women among the ``stranded Pakis`` in Bangladesh are converting to Christianity because the MQM wants it that way and also because Sindhis and Punjaibis don`t want any more killers in Pakistan.
My answer is that they are right - there are too many killers already in Pakistan. Namely, the Paki Punjoo-dominated Pak Army, the SIndhi Vadera`s private militias, the Punjabi Sunni Wahabbi-led radical Mullah organizations, and of course Tally Ban and the Al-Kayda. Adding Biharis to this mix of peaceful people will finish Pakiland off forever. LOL
Yes, Muslim women among the ``stranded Pakis`` in Bangladesh are converting to Christianity because the MQM wants it that way and also because Sindhis and Punjaibis don`t want any more killers in Pakistan.
My answer is that they are right - there are too many killers already in Pakistan. Namely, the Paki Punjoo-dominated Pak Army, the SIndhi Vadera`s private militias, the Punjabi Sunni Wahabbi-led radical Mullah organizations, and of course Tally Ban and the Al-Kayda. Adding Biharis to this mix of peaceful people will finish Pakiland off forever. LOL
#134 Posted by Aasif on April 26, 2006 3:35:47 pm
urstruly,
sahib, i hope u don`t believe in ur melodramatic bs. First it was sindhi bandits who were against punjabi settlers (living in trenches.. :)) ). Now it is mqm who ethnically cleansed karachi. Is this why karachi is still 10 times more cosmopolitan than any other city in pakistan?
Punjabis, pathans, bengalis, baloch, sindhis, memons, gujratis, biharis, kashmiris etc all live in karachi. OTOH it has been the kanjars and army at the behest of their masters in GHQ or islamabad (read punjab) with cadres mainly from the baRa sooba who have done most of the damage. You say that mqm has flourished under dictatorships and suffered under democracy. That may be so and has a lot to do with the manner democratic governments were run and how pinky and ganja turtle broke hearts and accords. The `civil war` in karachi which you oft mention is when mainly mohajir youth were targetted in extra judicial killings and kangaroo court justice. Two wrongs don`t make a right, i hope you understand. Now, blaming the mqm for the murder of the top barelvi leadership is another brainchild of yours. It is ridiculous even by your standards. MQM comitted excesses but jamatis and psf goons were no less. and Now the deobandi wahabi gangs are ruthless beyond comparison. As violence begets violence it gets more vicious with each response.
I know you are supporter of bringing the stranded pakistanis.. since the stranded whale is currently in england after getting a hair transplant in house of saud. His party was propped up by the army along with mqm. There was nothing islami aur jamhoori about the ittehaad or the sohrab cycle and you know that.
hp:
Bihari na khappan
Tappar hojay tau galahiay…
...............................
funny...
sahib, i hope u don`t believe in ur melodramatic bs. First it was sindhi bandits who were against punjabi settlers (living in trenches.. :)) ). Now it is mqm who ethnically cleansed karachi. Is this why karachi is still 10 times more cosmopolitan than any other city in pakistan?
Punjabis, pathans, bengalis, baloch, sindhis, memons, gujratis, biharis, kashmiris etc all live in karachi. OTOH it has been the kanjars and army at the behest of their masters in GHQ or islamabad (read punjab) with cadres mainly from the baRa sooba who have done most of the damage. You say that mqm has flourished under dictatorships and suffered under democracy. That may be so and has a lot to do with the manner democratic governments were run and how pinky and ganja turtle broke hearts and accords. The `civil war` in karachi which you oft mention is when mainly mohajir youth were targetted in extra judicial killings and kangaroo court justice. Two wrongs don`t make a right, i hope you understand. Now, blaming the mqm for the murder of the top barelvi leadership is another brainchild of yours. It is ridiculous even by your standards. MQM comitted excesses but jamatis and psf goons were no less. and Now the deobandi wahabi gangs are ruthless beyond comparison. As violence begets violence it gets more vicious with each response.
I know you are supporter of bringing the stranded pakistanis.. since the stranded whale is currently in england after getting a hair transplant in house of saud. His party was propped up by the army along with mqm. There was nothing islami aur jamhoori about the ittehaad or the sohrab cycle and you know that.
hp:
Bihari na khappan
Tappar hojay tau galahiay…
...............................
funny...
#135 Posted by HP on April 26, 2006 3:45:23 pm
#133,
I am glad they are converting to Christianity. Maybe they needed a peaceful religion to die....They have done enough killings in the name of Islam and now Islam and Pakistan need a break...:)
Anyone who has lived in Karachi or knows a little bit abt Sindh knows that there are no ``SIndhi Vadera`s private militias`` in Sindh. Only a person who reads abt sindh in Indian papers could say something like that.
All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP...
Ultay bans bareli ko...send (bj)Bihari to patna Ceeeety....
Assif come on...It is a joke that Salim can never get..He has never lived in Sindh...
I am glad they are converting to Christianity. Maybe they needed a peaceful religion to die....They have done enough killings in the name of Islam and now Islam and Pakistan need a break...:)
Anyone who has lived in Karachi or knows a little bit abt Sindh knows that there are no ``SIndhi Vadera`s private militias`` in Sindh. Only a person who reads abt sindh in Indian papers could say something like that.
All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP...
Ultay bans bareli ko...send (bj)Bihari to patna Ceeeety....
Assif come on...It is a joke that Salim can never get..He has never lived in Sindh...
#136 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 3:52:19 pm
#134, Aasif, {``OTOH it has been the kanjars and army at the behest of their masters in GHQ or islamabad (read punjab) with cadres mainly from the baRa sooba who have done most of the damage. You say that mqm has flourished under dictatorships and suffered under democracy. That may be so and has a lot to do with the manner democratic governments were run and how pinky and ganja turtle broke hearts and accords. ...since the stranded whale is currently in england after getting a hair transplant in house of saud. ``}
Aasif Bhai,
Thank you for presenting this humorous yet convincing rebuttal to Maulana Urstruly`s one-sided sermons. So, while Pontius ``Urstruly`` Pilate fiddles with his hands, in trying to blame everyone from the MQM, to the NYSE, and the NRA for leaving the victims stranded, another generation of ``stranded`` Pakistanis will be begging to join the killing spree in Pakistan. Maulana Urstruly has welcomed the Tally Ban and Alkayda to Pakistan, but he refurses to allow at least the women and children among the ``stranded`` Pakistanis to come home.
Aasif Bhai,
Thank you for presenting this humorous yet convincing rebuttal to Maulana Urstruly`s one-sided sermons. So, while Pontius ``Urstruly`` Pilate fiddles with his hands, in trying to blame everyone from the MQM, to the NYSE, and the NRA for leaving the victims stranded, another generation of ``stranded`` Pakistanis will be begging to join the killing spree in Pakistan. Maulana Urstruly has welcomed the Tally Ban and Alkayda to Pakistan, but he refurses to allow at least the women and children among the ``stranded`` Pakistanis to come home.
#137 Posted by Aasif on April 26, 2006 3:55:23 pm
Re: # 135
``All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP... ``
haha.. another good one. amongst the ethnic group which are not represented in the extremist jihadis include karachiites and sindhis... sindhis are even less so but then they are no where to be found (proportionally) in any of the armed forces either... perhaps we need a quota system in jihadi groups and the army? ;)
``All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP... ``
haha.. another good one. amongst the ethnic group which are not represented in the extremist jihadis include karachiites and sindhis... sindhis are even less so but then they are no where to be found (proportionally) in any of the armed forces either... perhaps we need a quota system in jihadi groups and the army? ;)
#138 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 3:56:52 pm
HP #135 {``It is a joke that Salim can never get..He has never lived in Sindh... ``}
HP,
You are so right. I have never lived in Sindh. Almost all of my time in Pakistan was spent in Karachi. :)
HP,
You are so right. I have never lived in Sindh. Almost all of my time in Pakistan was spent in Karachi. :)
#139 Posted by Aasif on April 26, 2006 3:58:20 pm
Re: # 136
oey salim.. urstruly is trying to put a dud-dugi around u as he used to do to ylh.. he vehemently supports the cause of stranded pakistanis.. but doesn`t like ur confrontational approach and sweeping generalizations.. therefore he is replying in kind. As said bhaisaab your supporting a cause on chowk will only hurt it.. ;)
oey salim.. urstruly is trying to put a dud-dugi around u as he used to do to ylh.. he vehemently supports the cause of stranded pakistanis.. but doesn`t like ur confrontational approach and sweeping generalizations.. therefore he is replying in kind. As said bhaisaab your supporting a cause on chowk will only hurt it.. ;)
#140 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 4:01:24 pm
HP #135, {``Re: # 135
``All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP... `` ``}
HP,
You know that is a lie. Terrorist groups need suicide bombers like Punjoos, Kashmiris, Tamils, Pathans, and Arabs. Bhayyas from UP, Bihar, and other Mohajirs are too cowardly to become suicide bombers. Also, most of us don`t have any faith in the 72 gopis - we would rather live with one wife here than fall for the 72 in the hereafter. Also, polygamy is practiced more among the ``sons of the soil`` than among the Mohajirs - among whom it is almost non-existent.
``All terrorist groups are ideologically led by the Urdu speaking from Bareli and Deoband...Terrorism is a curse from UP... `` ``}
HP,
You know that is a lie. Terrorist groups need suicide bombers like Punjoos, Kashmiris, Tamils, Pathans, and Arabs. Bhayyas from UP, Bihar, and other Mohajirs are too cowardly to become suicide bombers. Also, most of us don`t have any faith in the 72 gopis - we would rather live with one wife here than fall for the 72 in the hereafter. Also, polygamy is practiced more among the ``sons of the soil`` than among the Mohajirs - among whom it is almost non-existent.
#141 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 26, 2006 4:11:24 pm
#139, Aasif Bhai, {``As said bhaisaab your supporting a cause on chowk will only hurt it.. ;)``}
Aasif Bhai,
For several years, I have taken this issue of ``stranded Pakistanis`` very personally and seriously. I don`t want to hurt their chance of being repatriated, but my friend, how can anything I post on Chowk hurt a people who have been suffering for 35 long years - long before I showed up on earth?
I was just hoping that by raising this issue everywhere and persistently, I might shame some Paki government officials into doing the right thing - maybe that`s too American of me. :(
Here is my personal issue with this tragedy. ``Stranded Pakistanis`` are not welcome in Pakistan because the Sindhis/Punjabis don`t want to add to the number of Mohajirs. Almost all Mohajirs are very patriotic Pakistanis. By saying that they don`t want more people like us in Pakistan and then reinforcing this bias with the might and weight of the GoP, the Sindhis and Punjabis are telling us that they don`t care about our being Pakistani and our patriotism. Basically, we can go take a hike and they could care less. Is it any wonder that in the 70s, there were chants of ``Indira Gandhi Zindabad`` in the streets of Karachi?
How can I be loyal to a country whose policy it is to keep out Pakistanis who are identified with us? I don`t care if people want to call me ``Bihari,`` but it`s the right thing to do. Somehow, Punjaibis can`t understand that we should care for others besides those of our own ethnic group. Was Mother Theresa a Bengali? Is Angela Jolie a Paki?
Aasif Bhai,
For several years, I have taken this issue of ``stranded Pakistanis`` very personally and seriously. I don`t want to hurt their chance of being repatriated, but my friend, how can anything I post on Chowk hurt a people who have been suffering for 35 long years - long before I showed up on earth?
I was just hoping that by raising this issue everywhere and persistently, I might shame some Paki government officials into doing the right thing - maybe that`s too American of me. :(
Here is my personal issue with this tragedy. ``Stranded Pakistanis`` are not welcome in Pakistan because the Sindhis/Punjabis don`t want to add to the number of Mohajirs. Almost all Mohajirs are very patriotic Pakistanis. By saying that they don`t want more people like us in Pakistan and then reinforcing this bias with the might and weight of the GoP, the Sindhis and Punjabis are telling us that they don`t care about our being Pakistani and our patriotism. Basically, we can go take a hike and they could care less. Is it any wonder that in the 70s, there were chants of ``Indira Gandhi Zindabad`` in the streets of Karachi?
How can I be loyal to a country whose policy it is to keep out Pakistanis who are identified with us? I don`t care if people want to call me ``Bihari,`` but it`s the right thing to do. Somehow, Punjaibis can`t understand that we should care for others besides those of our own ethnic group. Was Mother Theresa a Bengali? Is Angela Jolie a Paki?
#142 Posted by jang on April 26, 2006 4:20:11 pm
i think those poor pretty stranded bihari girls have suffered enough. why would anyone would want them to go to pakistan .. that is so unfair.
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