Iran, Geopolitics and the Bomb

i beg to differ here freedomrules
if ur sayin the west is civilized then plz! ever heard of a gay? they all love the west. n if Iran or her president is the rogue then mayb u need to revise ur history lessons. He IS RITe. 6 million jews WEREN`T killed durin the world war 2! it is all a made up story. more christians were killed than the jews n the number of their killin was much more less then 6 milion.

Clash of Civilisations....

Arent you giving too much too the Islamic world? A better statement would be:

Clash of the civilized and the rogue ...

A country whose president doesnt know the history of WW2 and what happened to Jew needs some real education before they can call themselves civilized.

Well, although the responses to this article veered off-target and became about India and Pakistan (as usal) it was interesting; it seems that what I predicted in my article is going to take place. Today the puppet IAEA will suggest Iran is sent to the UN Security Council and so on as I said...

Clash of Civilisations....

nasah

Iranians are remarkably like Indians/Pakistanis.

``Why is it that our planes crash, our buildings collapse at the slightest tremor, our cars burst into flames, we don`t have even a half-standard football stadium in the entire country, but when it comes to nuclear energy, it`s a national issue?!... ``

An Iranian blogger on an Iranian web site.......could be a Pakistani blogger onPakistai site or an Indian blogger on an Indian site.....

hello inbred retard...

Another little factoid for you..

It is hardly surprising, therefore, that our average economic growth rate since 1990 has been below that of India. According to the UN Human Development Report for 2005, Pakistan’s average GDP per capita growth rate was 1.1 per cent as against 4.0 per cent of India during the period 1990-2003. Even during the current financial year, while the Indian economy is likely to achieve a GDP growth rate of about eight per cent, we are now talking of a growth rate of about 6.5 per cent.

According to the UN Human Development Report for 2005, while India spent 4.1 per cent of its GDP on education during the period 2000-02, the comparative figure for Pakistan was as low as 1.8 per cent.

In view of the likelihood of the challenge that China may pose to the US, on the Asian continent later in the 21st century, the US with the objective of containing China on its southern periphery, has entered into a strategic partnership with India as exemplified by the Indo-US defence and nuclear agreements of the last year and the declared US intention to help India become a “major world power in the 21st century”. The fast developing Indo-US strategic relationship neatly dovetails the strategic objectives of a global hegemon and a regional hegemon and may pose serious problems for Pakistan in view of its opposition to Indian hegemony in South Asia.

We do need to have friendly relations with the US but not in the service of the US imperial agenda and certainly not at the cost of our national dignity and honour. The US must be told firmly and unambiguously that while we will continue to fight terrorism as a matter of national conviction, any repetition of the cross-border raid recently conducted by the US forces in Bajaur will be totally unacceptable to us.

Our friendship with the US is marked by uncertainties and limitations regarding its future course, because the current Pakistan-US relationship, unlike the Indo-US relations, is not part of any grand US strategic design.

hello inbred retard.......Pakiland itself lags so behind India, it`s not even funny....``pride when friends do great`` is the imaginary straw pakis are now clutching?

Meanwhile, Pakiland continues to be violated at will..just like a dog gets kicked around..

Pakistan accuses US of violating its airspace

PESHAWAR: Pakistan had to warn off an American helicopter, which violated its airspace above its northern border with Afghanistan, the military said on Sunday. “It was a technical violation,” Pakistani military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan told AFP of the incident which happened on Friday night during US anti-insurgent operations in eastern Afghanistan. “After warnings from Pakistan side the helicopter went back,” he said. Two shells were also fired on Friday night from the Afghan side of the border which landed in Pakistan’s rugged tribal region of North Waziristan, but there were no casualties, the general said. afp

What would bipolar factoid junkie know about feeling pride when friends do great? All Indians know is their early morning bowel movements on railroad tracks. India is the most isolated and corrupt country. Most enlightened people stay away from Indians.

{India would be stupid to go in for energy collaboration with rogue states like Iran, Syria! No doubt gas is a cheap source but both nations (syria, iran) are unreliable.}

India is not needed as a cutomer. It is obvious. But who is sucking up to whom? That is the main question. Why is India shivering in its pants, then? Missed the early morning bowel movements, eh!

Very difficult to understand Indians.

re:#184 by behram1
Let me try and educate u on certain matters. This time i promise i will be nice.
India would be stupid to go in for energy collaboration with rogue states like Iran, Syria! No doubt gas is a cheap source but both nations (syria, iran) are unreliable. They are also ideological states supporting extreme form of Islam. US, OTOH, is a nation that shares many values (democracy, secularism, rule of law) etc with India and has now offered to collaborate on civilian reactors. US has the technology while Iran, syria does not.
In the matter of technology, something interesting happened recently. Some scientists from BARC (Bhabha Atomic Research Center) presented an innovative paper at the week-long 12th International Conference on Emerging Nuclear Energy Systems (ICENES 2005) in Brussels of using thorium directly for nuclear energy.
This is from the following someone`s weblog but the content is worthnoting:
http://indicview.blogspot.com/2005/08/revolutionary-reactor-design-by-barc.html
(Revolutionary Reactor Design by BARC

Scientists at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Bombay, have designed what they claim is the safest and most economical nuclear reactor in the world. BARC scientists V Jagannathan and Usha Pal revealed the design, which has been in the making for seven years, in their paper presented at the week-long 12th International Conference on Emerging Nuclear Energy Systems (ICENES 2005) in Brussels.

There are some nice and unique things about this reactor. The design presented was for a reactor that can produce, ``600 MW of electricity for two years `with no refuelling and practically no control manoeuvres.```Most accidents are because of human error. So automation would mean minimal chances of accident - plus reduction in cost. Importantly for India, the reactor does not need uranium, and runs of thorium instead (which India has in plenty). I have doubts about that being an advantage. Though it does not need uranium, it still needs plutonium (800 kg a year), and in comparable quantities to the thorium (1100 kg a year).

The design is called ATBR (A Thorium Breeder Reactor). It uses plutonium as the seed to start the reaction cycle, which then carries on with thorium getting converted to fissionable uranium-233. It is a thorium breeder of sorts (a first with thorium in the world - fast breeding is normally done with plutonium), so it produces as much fissile material as it depletes, extending a single cycle over a period of two years. Thus the minimal human interference required.

World reserves of thorium are about three times that of uranium, and India has 32 per cent of the world`s thorium. Thus India is rather anxious to start exploiting this huge resource, which incidentally also cannot be used to create nuclear weapons.
India has a so-called ``three-stage nuclear program``. In the first stage, plutonium is created in its pressurized heavy water reactors (PHWRs) and extracted by reprocessing. In the second stage, fast breeder reactors (FBRs) use this plutonium in 70-percent MOX-fuel to breed uranium-233 in a thorium blanket around the core. In the final stage, the FBR`s use thorium-232 and produce uranium-233 for other reactors.

The first stage has been realized with India`s 10 nuclear power plants. The second stage is only realized by a small experimental fast breeder reactor (13 MW), at Kalpakkam.

- Bellona)
Now, u know why nuclear reactors using thorium would be so critical for India. Nuclear reactlors can not only solve India`s energy needs but also make it selfreliant in energy.
Sridhar

How long before the pakis tell us they didn`t want a deal anyways....

‘US says no to Pakistan on India-like nuclear deal’

#190 by behram1 on January 29, 2006 6:35am PT



If China does great, Pakistanis feel they are doing great.


Even for an inbred retard self-delusional paki, this takes the cake...

Going by your logic, Pakiland should feel great for having sent a man to space..

Ref:#187 by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 1:29am PT

Bipolor Factoid Junkie:

China is doing great. South Korea is doing great. Widow killers are just stuck on railroad tracks sqautting.

Birds of a feather flock together. If China does great, Pakistanis feel they are doing great. And in effect, Pakistanis are doing great.

It requires intelligence to understand this which railroad track squatters do not have.

When the big dog wants to kill islamic terrorists, it kills islamic terrorists..

The missing border

Until now, the president and his supporters have been able to convince most Pakistanis that his post 9/11 policies have rescued Pakistan and enabled it to escape the unending US wrath. The majority of our people felt it was prudent not to cross America`s path at a time when it was relentlessly pursuing a policy to avenge the 9/11 attacks. The president had promised the nation that his pro-US policies would bring both political and economic rewards. He had told them a grateful and helpful America would help solve the Kashmir problem and enable Pakistan to protect its nuclear programme.

Those promises remain largely unfulfilled. Though US economic and military assistance to Pakistan resumed and was useful, critics still maintain that Pakistan under a democratic dispensation would have extracted greater help from Washington. On the face of it, the US has moved closer to India and pushed Pakistan to make unilateral concessions on a host of issues including Kashmir, nuclear programme, and the war on terrorism.

There are other theories as well with everyone interpreting the presidential omission in his or her own way. We don`t know what was in the president`s mind when he opted to ignore the Bajaur incident in his speech and instead focused on the issues of dams, Balochistan and National Finance Commission. He treated it as a non-event even if the US attack and the killing of 13 innocent men, women and children had damaged Pakistan`s claims to be a sovereign state and hurt our self-respect. By mentioning the Bajaur tragedy the president could have consoled the survivors and the many other Pakistanis grieving for the victims and blunted the opposition`s protests.

By not mentioning Bajaur, the president gave the impression as if he too is helpless before the mighty US.

Hello inbred retard...did you even read the article YOU posted...guess who is getting shafted..

#184 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:19pm PT


India must be shafted and India will be shafted...

He said the target of achieving 7.5-8 per cent GDP growth rate could not come true without having all the three gas projects finalised.

#174 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 6:10pm PT

inbred retard..

here`s another factoid...Pakistan is neither China or South Korea...And the non-inbred world fails to see how Chinese growth rates reflect positively on Pakiland..

O! MS, O! GE, O! why don`t ye help India with Washington....

India must learn how to behave. Oops, no Syrian oilfield for the suckers....

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006 01 29 story_29-1-2006_pg7_2
US warns India against investing in Syrian oilfield

NEW DELHI: Washington, which is negotiating a landmark civilian nuclear deal with India, has asked New Delhi to reconsider its decision to buy a Syrian oilfield with China, a report said on Saturday. The demand was made earlier this month and a note with Washington’s objections was handed over to Indian foreign ministry officials, The Hindu newspaper reported.

The report came after the US ambassador to India warned earlier this week that the country could lose out on the crucial nuclear deal if it does not vote against Iran’s nuclear programme at a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) February 2.

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Kicking India where it hurts. Treat them like dogs.

Re: # 179

ranjit:

Thanks, but no thanks. I am very comfortable with Pakistanis. Yes, being a Zoroastrian, I truly love my country of birth Pakistan. In my life I have always trusted Pakistanis. Pakistanis are good humans. There is no reason for me to become a Hindustani.

{Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan?} Why don`t you make a trip to Pakistan, then? You will find Pakistanis thousand times better than your countrymen.

The hate that Hindoos have been promoting on this Chowk is not what Pakistanis are all about.

{We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas.} Zoroastrians get along with everyone in Pakistan as well. Parsees have schools, hospitals, and even a University in Pakistan. They truly live as royal citizens of Pakistan. Go check it out yourself.

{Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.} But, Behram prefers to live in Pakistan, and that is what matters the most.

{So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)} Actually, it is hindoos who have ``gussa`` against Pakistanis. Ask them to be civilized and stop spewing hate.

India must be shafted and India will be shafted...

Rejoice Pakistanis with the following news:

http://dawn.com/2006/01/29/top1.htm

Pipeline plan may be delayed

By Ihtasham ul Haque

ISLAMABAD, Jan 28: Pakistan is facing difficulties to go ahead with the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline project due to the mounting US pressure on Islamabad and New Delhi to give up the over $7 billion plan.

Informed sources told Dawn on Saturday, though almost all technical and professional issues had been sorted out among the three stakeholders, the intensifying US opposition to the project could delay its execution.

The remaining issues of pipeline structure and gas pricing will be sorted out in tripartite talks to be held in Iran next month, but the officials concerned fear for the progress of the project under the present circumstances.

President Gen Pervez Musharraf said in Davos on Thursday that Pakistan had no plans to ditch the natural gas deal with Iran. If the United States wanted Pakistan to stay away from the project, it should pay the compensation.

Sources said that all the three countries were keen to sign the final agreement as early as possible, but could not “straightaway” reject the US reservations over the IPI gas project.

“If everything goes as per plan, we should be able to start this project by June next year. But I am afraid, I cannot speak about the political issues which are of course important and need to be settled,” a source said.

He said the target of achieving 7.5-8 per cent GDP growth rate could not come true without having all the three gas projects finalised.

“At least two gas pipeline projects have to be firmed up to achieve the desired growth rate in near future,” a source said.

Talks on Turkmenistan gas project, he said, would be held on Feb 13-15, while the Qatar government had been requested to give time for initiating discussion on a gas pipeline project from Qatar to Pakistan.

Sources said that keeping in view the financial and technical viability of the IPI project, it was not difficult to arrange a foreign consortium to manage funding for it and other two gas projects, sources added.

Iran has proposed a segmented approach to build the trans-national pipeline, which means that each country should construct the pipeline in its respective territory. Another proposal is to lay the whole pipeline as an integrated project from gas field in Iran to distribution points in Pakistan and India.

The Pakistan’s Interstate Gas Company Limited (IGCL) has appointed Pricewaterhouse Coopers as financial adviser to propose a best possible structure of the project from Pakistan’s point of view.

Islamabad has sent a gas pricing formula to Iran, which is based on gas pricing mechanism in Pakistan.

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This is just the beginning. Mighty Persian and Arab khajoor injected sugar cane therapies are on its to treat the Indians on how to behave with neighbors......

Strange creatures, otherwise also known as Hindoos, have no idea where to put their mouths to have a good morning suck. They huddle on railroad tracks as their spiritual leader Gandhi had decreed. They are enemies of their neighbors. It is time for some sugar cane therapy for the dung eating creatures.

#179, Ranjit {``You are a zoroastrian, not a muslim. You seem to be well educated and successful. What do you have in common with people like urstruly, ali1 and malik99? Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan? Even Salim bhai is on our side. :-) ``}

Ranjit Bhai,
Yes, I am on the side that is more logical and more humane. That varies from issue to issue and topic to topic. :)
For the record, I am not a Bihari Pharisee, as alleged by some, and would like to be cremated rather than consumed by bugs underground or vultures above ground - I just have a very low threshold for pain, even when I am dead. Thanks. :)

re: US-India relationship: a new paradigm?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/24/AR2006012401804_2.html
(U.S. Troops on Front Line Of Expanding India Ties
Post-9/11 Shift Stresses Common Interests

By John Lancaster
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, January 25, 2006; Page A01

CHAUBATIA, India -- More than half a century after independence, foreign soldiers have returned to this onetime colonial garrison of tin-roofed bungalows, stone churches and panoramic Himalayan views. But this time, the soldiers` accents are American, not British, and their purpose is not to subdue India but to cultivate it as an ally.

In the latest of a series of such exercises, 120 U.S. combat troops have come here to train with their Indian counterparts in areas such as counterinsurgency and peacekeeping. Besides taking classroom instruction, they are firing Indian weapons, bonding with Indian soldiers over games of soccer and volleyball, and even developing a taste for vegetarian cuisine, albeit with spices toned down for sensitive American palates.

``When you get the armies together, it`s like saying, `Hey, we can work together, we can accomplish this together,` `` said U.S. Army Capt. Robert Atienza, 31, of San Diego, who commands the Hawaii-based infantry company that is participating in the 2 1/2 -week exercise that began last week. ``It`s very broad.``

The exercise is an example of the striking improvement in relations between the United States and India following decades of Cold War estrangement and more recent tensions stemming from India`s nuclear tests in 1998.

Spurred by the United States, the two governments have signed commercial, scientific and military agreements in the last two years and are negotiating a controversial deal that could permit the sale of civilian nuclear technology to India. The Bush administration is eager to cultivate India as a partner in counterterrorism and, some analysts say, as a strategic counterweight to China.

The warming trend is also reflected in the surge of interest in India among U.S. business leaders such as Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft Corp., who recently announced a $1.7 billion investment in the country, the latest in a string of such commitments by U.S. technology firms eager to cash in on India`s booming economy and surplus of inexpensive brainpower.

Other indicators include the parade of U.S. lawmakers through New Delhi in recent months and steadily expanding commercial air links. In addition, a record number of Indian students -- more than 80,000 -- are studying at U.S. universities, according to the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi.

President Bush is scheduled to visit India for the first time in early March at the invitation of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, a self-effacing economist who met with Bush at the White House last July. In New Delhi on Friday, Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said the planned visit is ``really reflective of the very significant transformation that has taken place, and is taking place, in India-U.S. relations.``

Saran was speaking at a news conference after meetings with Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns, who was making his third visit to the Indian capital in the last six months. ``India is one of the few countries in the world that has the capability to act globally and has the same basic interests as the United States,`` Burns said in a telephone interview from New Delhi.

The two countries still have important differences. In particular, India has a long history of warm relations with Iran and is pursuing plans to build a natural gas pipeline from Iran across Pakistan, a move that the Bush administration has warned could trigger sanctions against Indian companies under a U.S. law aimed at isolating Iran`s Islamic regime. Indian officials say the project is essential to their country`s energy security.

Partly for that reason, India has walked a tightrope in its handling of the standoff between Iran and the United States over allegations that Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons.

India`s reluctance to dance entirely to Washington`s tune stems in part from the influence of political parties opposed to the Bush administration`s policies on Iraq and free trade.
One of the most important tests of the new relationship centers on the agreement signed by Bush and Singh in Washington last July that would give India access to nuclear fuel and reactors to produce electricity. Under the deal, the United States would lift a ban on the sale of such technology to India, provided that India opens up its civilian nuclear facilities to international inspections and other safeguards.

That cannot happen, however, until the administration and India agree on a plan to separate the country`s civilian and military nuclear facilities. The U.S. Congress would then have to vote on the deal, which critics say would weaken efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and create perceptions of a double standard in U.S. dealings with such countries as Iran and North Korea.

``The nonproliferation system is built on rules,`` said Michael Krepon, a specialist on the issue at the Henry L. Stimson Center in Washington. ``They`re not always honored, but having them makes it easier to gang up on people who break the rules. The approach the administration is taking is very poisonous to all that.``

U.S. officials say the deal would strengthen nonproliferation efforts by opening up India`s civilian nuclear facilities to outside inspection for the first time. India, they say, is entitled to special treatment in light of its democratic values and exemplary record of preventing nuclear secrets from falling into the wrong hands.

Burns said in the interview that his discussions last week with Indian officials had not yielded a breakthrough on the separation plan, and he made no prediction about whether a deal would be secured in time for Bush`s visit. ``It`s a possibility but not a certainty,`` he said.

If the deal does fall apart, ``a lot of people would be quite happy to say, `We told you the United States cannot be trusted,` `` said C. Raja Mohan, an analyst and commentator in New Delhi.

Other analysts say the relationship would survive such a setback, citing many common interests. Already, they note, India and the United States are working closely to coordinate policy on regional concerns such as instability in Nepal and Bangladesh. ``The relationship is going to stand on its own,`` Burns said.

The goodwill marks a sharp change from the Cold War, when India was a champion of the Non-Aligned Movement and had close ties to the Soviet Union. Relations began to improve in the early 1990s following the Soviet collapse and India`s initial moves to liberalize its economy. But they nosedived when the United States imposed sanctions in response to India`s 1998 nuclear tests.

The Bush administration lifted the sanctions after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and has promoted India as a new global partner, citing its vast economic potential and status as the world`s largest democracy.

Analysts say the White House drive to court India was also influenced by frustration with traditional allies such as France and Germany and concerns over the rising power of China.

The administration has paid special attention to strengthening India`s military capabilities.

Since 2002, India and the United States have held a number of naval, air and ground exercises. The latest is being conducted in Chaubatia, an army base that was established by the British Indian Army in the late 19th century in the forested Himalayan foothills about 90 miles northeast of New Delhi. It is now occupied by the Indian army`s Kumaon Regiment and, at least through the end of January, by the men of Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, which is part of the 25th Infantry Division out of Scofield Barracks, Hawaii.

Chaubatia is an exotic setting for the exercise, with its striking views of snow-capped peaks, immaculate grounds and road sign alerting drivers that ``leopards have right of way.``

One morning last week, Atienza, the company commander, lectured Indian soldiers on lessons learned during the battalion`s year-long tour of Afghanistan, which ended in March 2004, as an interpreter translated his words into Hindi. In other classes, Indian officers shared their experiences fighting Islamic guerrillas in Kashmir. Later in the day, Indian and American troops converged on a firing range, where they took turns shooting each other`s assault rifles at pop-up targets.K

In part, the exercise is aimed at bridging cultural gaps between the two militaries. Several American officers, for example, said they had been struck by the relative lack of autonomy vested in Indian soldiers at the platoon level. And an Indian officer, who under Indian army ground rules could not be identified by name, said the U.S. soldiers were ``quite relaxed,`` adding philosophically, ``That is their way.``)
Sridhar

re:#175 by ranjit
Just because an ambassador shot of his mouth some stupid statement does not mean US is trying to browbeat India.
These kind of things happen in diplomatic circles. US diplomats are not known for their diplomacy, especially those serving in developing countries. India did right by summoning the ambassador and giving him a ``diplomatic dressdown``.
All this does still does not change the real picture. Iran is a dangerous nation. It is not just an ideological nation (like Pak) but a nation ruled by a nutcase who will very likely pass on the nuclear weapon to Hamas or probably use it at the first instance.
I do not know why Iran is considered a friend of India. This probably happened more out of compulsion during the cold war days. Now-a-days, India and US are forging a new relationship and there is nothing much to gain from Iran.
The only thing Iran has (that is useful to India) is gas. There is noway that will ever be sold to India. The pipeline is now a pipedream. There is nothing else to be gained from Iran. I suspect this year will see a UN sponsored war against Iran.
Sridhar

Re:behram all

Yaar, why dont u come over to our side? You are a zoroastrian, not a muslim. You seem to be well educated and successful. What do you have in common with people like urstruly, ali1 and malik99? Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan? Even Salim bhai is on our side. :-)

We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas. Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.

So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)

Bipolar factoid junkie is stuck and can`t comprehend a simple post:

>>>#172 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 1:23pm PT

Bipolar Factoid Junkie and other hindoos are on a collision course. Indians on this chowk can`t decide whether India is Iran`s friend or not? I know India is NOT. <<<

Actually, I agree with his views and yet his bipolar nature continues to harp on irrelevancy.

Maybe that madrasi hate monger would should up and explain his position, and then bipolar factoid junkie would be isolated permanently. He could even agree with me.

Oooooh! what fun would it be to shaft these idiots in the darkest corner of chowk.....

As usual, Indian Hindoos can`t make up their mind.

Is Iran India`s friend? Most say yes, except for this bipolar factoid junkie. The other who has rocks bouncing around in his skull is still MIA. He must be waiting on the railraod tracks doing his early morning thing. Maybe all these Hindoos should huddle on the railroad tracks and think what is going to happen to their society. With the pressure mounting while squatting maybe their brains would ooze out from between their legs.

Indians are strange creatures hard for humans to understand.

Don`t Mess With Iranians

http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/27/news/international/pluggedin_fortune/index.htm

Ready for $262/barrel oil?

Two of the world`s most successful investors say oil will be in short supply in the coming months.

DAVOS, Switzerland (FORTUNE) - Be afraid. Be very afraid.

That`s the message from two of the world`s most successful investors on the topic of high oil prices. One of them, Hermitage Capital`s Bill Browder, has outlined six scenarios that could take oil up to a downright terrifying $262 a barrel.

The other, billionaire investor George Soros, wouldn`t make any specific predictions about prices. But as a legendary commodities player, it`s worth paying heed to the words of the man who once took on the Bank of England -- and won. ``I`m very worried about the supply-demand balance, which is very tight,`` Soros says.

``U.S. power and influence has declined precipitously because of Iraq and the war on terror and that creates an incentive for anyone who wants to make trouble to go ahead and make it.`` As an example, Soros pointed to the regime in Iran, which is heading towards a confrontation with the West over its nuclear power program and doesn`t show any signs of compromising. ``Iran is on a collision course and I have a difficulty seeing how such a collision can be avoided,`` he says.

Another emboldened troublemaker is Russian president Vladimir Putin, Soros said, citing Putin`s recent decision to briefly shut the supply of natural gas to Ukraine. The only bit of optimism Soros could offer was that the next 12 months would be most dangerous in terms of any price shocks, because beginning in 2007 he predicts new oil supplies will come online.

Hermitage`s Bill Browder doesn`t yet have the stature of George Soros. But his $4 billion Moscow-based Hermitage fund rose 81.5 percent last year and is up a whopping 1780 percent since its inception a decade ago. A veteran of Salomon Bros. and Boston Consulting Group, the 41-year old Browder has been especially successful because of his contrarian take; for example, he continued to invest in Russia when others fled following the Kremlin`s assault on Yukos.

Re:arjun_m#170

While I am no fan of the Iranian mullahs, I dont want India to slowly become a US lapdog. The US ambassador`s behavior in Delhi, with his threats and all, was highly objectionable. Who does he think he is dealing with? We are not Pakistan that he can threaten us openly and we will lick his boots.

We must keep in mind the typical US relationship with its client states in the past, especially Pakistan. While we must pursue open markets and economic liberalization at full speed, we must maintain our self-respect, just like China does. China doesnt take any $hit from the US, only the dollars. :-) We must be like that.

The problem is basically Pakistan that has created the impression in US minds that all brown skinned desis will behave the same way and lick their boots. We need to disabuse them of that notion!!

Bipolar Factoid Junkie:

China`s Foreign Reserve jumps to $818B

South Korea`s Reserve jumps to $214B

India`s Reserve stuck at $123B

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China`s Industrial Output Growth = 16%

Pakistan`s Industrial Output Growth = 8%

India`s Industrial Output Growth = 5%

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hello inbred retard..

India Is Darling of World Economic Forum
India, Darling of Davos, Is Questioned by Corporate Heavyweights As It Seeks New Investment

— Dell Inc. founder Michael Dell asked about manufacturing semiconductors. Nestle SA CEO Peter Brabeck-Letmathe raised the problem of water supplies in rural areas.

Bipolar Factoid Junkie and other hindoos are on a collision course. Indians on this chowk can`t decide whether India is Iran`s friend or not? I know India is NOT.

Iran should stay away from the Indian shenanigans and let India suffer the consequences of it`s foreign policy decisions.

All this islamist whining is meaningless..If the US decides to bomb Iran, it`ll do so...just like it decided to bomb the cr@p out of pakis



no amount of whining by anyone can change that..

Iran is a friend of India?

We must prefer Bush, Warts and all

For those painting Iran as a valuable Indian ally and heroic underdog whom India must support against US imperialism, we have news.

Iran has just declared bluntly that if the price of oil exceeds $80/barrel —something that looks certain in the foreseeable future — then Iran will renege on its agreement to supply India 5 million tonnes of liquefied natural gas per year.

This is not the act of a friend or ally, or even of a disinterested commercial supplier. It is the bullying tactic of an arrogant oil power using energy as a commercial and diplomatic weapon.

India seeks long-term LNG contracts to ensure energy security for gas-based power plants and chemical plants costing thousands of crores. Teheran has put India on notice that those thousands of crores of investment will be at the mercy of Iranian whim on LNG supplies.

The Ahmedinejad regime that came to power after the LNG agreement was signed has constantly made excuses to avoid inking a formal contract. We now know why. The Ahmedinejad regime has proved irresponsible on more than one front, and cannot be regarded as a reliable supplier of energy.

India needs to shift to Saudi Arabia (which has been far friendlier) and Qatar. The proposed Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline should be put on the back-burner till the Ahmedinejad regime gives way to a more reliable one. This also puts in perspective India’s diplomatic choices on Iran’s uranium enrichment plans.

US Ambassador David Mulford said in a press interview that an Indian vote favouring Iran in the International Atomic Energy Agency would be found “devastating” by US Congress, which would kill Bush’s initiative to change US non-proliferation laws to allow nuclear supplies to India.

This is undoubtedly true but predictably led to protests in political circles. The Ambassador was pulled up by India’s foreign secretary, and the Bush administration dissociated itself from Mulford. This is diplomatic theatre.

India is indeed free to choose, but let nobody pretend that choices do not have consequences. Should India align itself with the mullahs or the US, warts and all? Only hare-brained ideologues would opt for the mullahs.

``Iran is a friend of India, period. India will always stand by Iran and defend its rights`` (ranjit)

exactly -- and if I may add -- despite that stupid ignorant foot-in-mouth extremist `president` Ahmeqnijad....

hello inbred retard...The US ambassador`s implied thread has now backfired..And it turns out that after paki territory was bombed by US forces and Paki citizens killed on paki soil, the linguini-spined Paki government didn`t even summon the US ambassador..

Now you see why America sees Pakiland as a dog and pakis are deported in large numbers?

Iran vows missile retaliation to any attack
Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:46 PM IST16

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran would launch medium-range missiles if attacked, a military leader said on Saturday, accusing Britain and the United States of arming rebels as international pressure mounts on Tehran over its nuclear plans.

``If we come under a military attack, we will respond with our very effective missile defence,`` Yahya Rahim Safavi, commander in chief of the Revolutionary Guard, told state television.

Western states suspect Iran of secretly aiming to build a nuclear bomb. Tehran insists its nuclear facilities are intended to produce only electricity.

The United States and Israel have said they would prefer to solve the stand-off through diplomacy but have not ruled out a military strike.

#165 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 7:25am PT




When Man Mohan was trying to get a deal from the US, why did India then vote against Iran, in some UN vote?


The deal was signed in July..

The vote against Iran was cast in September...

A little factoid for the reality challenged inbred retard..

Ref: #164 by ranjit on January 28, 2006 5:18am PT

{India has shown a lot of backbone by telling the US ambassador to take a flying f*ck when that guy tried to bully India about Iran based on the nuclear deal.}

When Man Mohan was trying to get a deal from the US, why did India then vote against Iran, in some UN vote? Do you forget that?

{We do not take BS from anyone, whether it is US or any other country.} You seriously don`t believe that, do you?

{You should tell your Paindoo overlords in Islamabad to learn from India and develop a backbone.} Actually, when it comes to Iran, the Paindoos in Islamabad, know very well where to stand.

Re:behram1#163

[...up, that is India alright!

http://dawn.com/2006/01/28/top2.htm

India changes tune, defends Iran
...]

Behram mian, what are you complaining about? India has shown a lot of backbone by telling the US ambassador to take a flying f*ck when that guy tried to bully India about Iran based on the nuclear deal. We do not take BS from anyone, whether it is US or any other country. Iran is a friend of India, period. India will always stand by Iran and defend its rights, as long as Iran doesnt do something stupid like launch missiles against Israel.

You should tell your Paindoo overlords in Islamabad to learn from India and develop a backbone. You have US spy planes firing missiles and killing your civilians within your borders but your Paindoo overlords are visting US and indulging in their usual boot licking of the goras. What a shame!!!

Yup, that is India alright!

http://dawn.com/2006/01/28/top2.htm

India changes tune, defends Iran

By Jawed Naqvi

NEW DELHI, Jan 27: India on Friday distanced itself from US-led calls to isolate Iran at next week’s meeting of the IAEA after controversial remarks on the issue by Washington’s envoy to Delhi enraged the nation as seldom seen before.

The Indian foreign ministry, facing a barrage of criticism for apparent obsequiousness towards Washington that ranged from allies in the Left Front to former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, appeared to have rowed back from its recent bonhomie with the United States.

“During the past two weeks, India has been undertaking active consultations with all key members of the IAEA Board of Governors and with Iran, in order to avoid confrontation and to promote the widest possible consensus on handling the Iran nuclear issue,” a spokesman for the Indian foreign ministry said.

He explained that in all the consultations, India has urged “that Iran’s right to develop peaceful uses of nuclear energy for its development consistent with its international obligations and commitments should be respected”.

The spokesman said: “Iran’s willingness to work together with the IAEA to remove any outstanding issues, about its nuclear programme should be welcomed.” In this regard, the agency should be allowed to proceed according to its work programme and submit a detailed report, he said.

India, he said, also welcomes all initiatives, “including from Russia, which could enable a consensus to be reached on this issue and urges further intensive efforts in that direction”.

In the bargain India appealed to “all concerned countries (to) avoid confrontation and work in the spirit of seeking a mutually acceptable solution”.

The Indian clarification, which came in response to a question, coincided with comments by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that India should be ready to make hard choices ahead.

Earlier this week, US Ambassador David Mulford, in apparent eagerness to clinch a civil nuclear energy deal with India before President George W. Bush arrives here on March 1, said the move could die in the US Congress if India did not vote against Iran at the February 2 IAEA meeting.

The Indian Express, which supports the deal, cautioned: “India and the US are raucous democracies. Public statements from either side quickly feed into the domestic politics of the other and complicate the negotiations between the two governments. India and the US have made much progress in the last few years because they have learnt one hard lesson from the wasted decades of the past: avoid hectoring each other in public. Mulford’s remarks are an awful deviation from that sensible rule.”

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s government is already under considerable pressure from the Left as well as sections of the Congress to reverse its IAEA vote, the Express wrote. “By linking the implementation of the nuclear pact and the Iran vote, Mulford has undercut the prospects of India moving forward on both.”

The Hindu said: “In publicly warning India, on Republic Day eve, to vote against Iran or else, (Mulford) has outrageously crossed the line of diplomatic propriety, inviting condemnation from political players ranging from the Left to Atal Bihari Vajpayee.

“But he has also done India a service by letting the cat out of the bag, if it was ever fully in. In his interview to the Press Trust of India, he has spotlighted the pitiful terms of the bargain struck by the Manmohan Singh government with Washington under the signboard of civilian nuclear cooperation,” The Hindu said.

“Who can, after Mr Mulford’s egregious forthcomingness, doubt that the bargain requires India to behave like a marionette — forced at every turn of major international events to go against its own national instincts and interests for fear of offending Washington? Today it is a fatwa on Iran, tomorrow it will be a diktat on India’s plan to separate its civil and military nuclear facilities, which Mr. Mulford has found to fall short of ‘minimum standards’.”

The Asian Age, commenting on Mr Mulford’s faux pas, observed: “Sometimes when you say something often enough, you start saying it in your sleep. This is what appears to have happened to US Ambassador to India David C. Mulford who stunned his own, and definitely Manmohan Singh’s, governments with his recent interview to a news agency.”

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And India continues to suck hard. This time American sugar cane!

For any and all Hindoos, if this fits wear it:

So you are once again getting your brain out from between your legs. You are a creature whose skull is empty and has rocks bouncing around. Your spiritual leader Ghandhi has a whore house road in New Delhi named as Ghandhi Baba Road.

You were born to a tuwaif in a room where your mom was laid by a muslim. No wonder you hate muslims so much. Your spiritual leader asks you to early morning bowel on railroad tracks. And you have no shame. You conduct your Indian Yoga by shoving your head up in your smelley @ss.

Indians are strange creatures, hard for humans to understand.

{..other thing the pakis do.. } wait for hindoo chicks. Again, any problem?

#159 by behram1 on January 27, 2006 4:57pm PT


Any problem?


Problem called reality...reality is that you wait for fares..slow day for the cab driver profession? why don`t you plan a terrorist bombing or something..other thing the pakis do..

{whatever paki thing you normally do.. } I wait for hindoo chicks who are looking for sugar daddies. Any problem?

Bipolar factoid junkie:

Did you have your morning bowel movement? Or is it oozing out of your mouth? Go get on to the railroad tracks as your spiritual leader Gandhi suggested.

Most people in the world pray early in the morning, but you people worry about your early morning bowel movement. Go get it done.

Hello inbred retard..meet reality..

US cautions citizens to defer non-essential travel to Pakistan
(Updated at 0535 PST)
WASHINGTON: The United States has cautioned citizens to defer non-essential travel to Pakistan amid concerns over ``terrorist`` activity.

Updating a March 2005 travel advisory, the State Department said Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants, particularly along the porous Afghan border region, and other indigenous sectarian and militant groups in Pakistan posed ``potential danger`` to US citizens.

It cited the bombing of McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants in Karachi in September last year, resulting in multiple injuries.

This month, a US missile attack targeted at terrorists on a village near the Afghan border killed 18 civilians, triggering protests across Pakistan.

Bipolar factoid junkie still is unable to understand that most Pakistanis are not interested to follow the Banged Galored IT code coolies. Get your brains out from between your legs, and quit doing Indian Yoga by sticking it up your smelley @ss.

{If IT is so bad, why is Pakistan begging microsoft to come and invest in Pakiland..Why hold exhibitions with the stated purpose of inviting foreign investment in IT?}

IT is not the way forward for Pakistan. Get it. Less than 5% of the US economy is in IT, and there is more to the world than live a frazzled life. Pakistan will be turning towards more traditional economy and a part (only a very small part) of that could be in modern technology.

{sour grapes?} Hardly. Pakistan is an enterprising nation and is humming along just fine.

{If Indians are code coolies, pakis are failures at being code coolies...how pathetic is that.}

Actually, most Americans always asks how pathetic are the Indians?
Now, factoid junkies are unable to comprehend that. And that is the truth.

#153 by behram1 on January 27, 2006 4:33pm PT


By kicking Indian jack @sses.


Inbred retard..confusing wet dreams with reality again? your willingness to kick ass says nothing about your actualy ability to do so..

now get back to your cab driving or whatever paki thing you normally do..

This can only mean one thing..Bill Clinton like air strikes without ground forces..

57% Americans support military action in Iran
By Greg Miller, Times Staff Writer
Published: January 27 2006 15:22 | Last updated: January 27 2006 15:22

Los Angeles TimesWASHINGTON — Despite persistent disillusionment with the war in Iraq, a majority of Americans supports taking military action against Iran if that country continues to produce material that can be used to develop nuclear weapons, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.

The poll, conducted Sunday through Wednesday, found that 57% of Americans favor military intervention if Iran’s Islamic government pursues a program that could enable it to build nuclear arms.

Support for military action against Tehran has increased over the last year, the poll found, even though public sentiment is running against the war in neighboring Iraq: 53% said they believe the situation there was not worth going to war.

The poll results suggest that the difficulties the United States has encountered in Iraq have not turned the public against the possibility of military actions elsewhere in the Middle East.Bush ratings sink in latest poll

{But how would Behram know?}

By kicking Indian jack @sses. Any questions?

#150 by behram1 on January 27, 2006 4:02pm PT
Question for the inbred retard to answer...

If IT is so bad, why is Pakistan begging microsoft to come and invest in Pakiland..Why hold exhibitions with the stated purpose of inviting foreign investment in IT?

sour grapes?

If Indians are code coolies, pakis are failures at being code coolies...how pathetic is that.

{BTW, it seems you are for employment generation through private enterprise as i was arguing with masadi, which he disagrees with. } I do not agree with most of what masadi has suggested. I am making a distinction between private enterprising business that is still family owned to a large extent and MNCs whose growth are mostly from floating stocks, etc. and then the management usually screw the actual owners, the shareholders.

I truly believe in the capitalist system of free enterprise.

{as long as laws are not trampled upon.} Unless, they are caught, as was the case with Enron, Worldcom, etc., many MNCs push the envelop to skirt around the laws of the land. Because they can and they do it.

It is very difficult to hold an MNC accountable because they have huge power to circumvent the local governments. Even for the US, it could only bring a few handful of MNCs to justice. How can a developing country like India, even dream of competing with a bohemoth like Walmart? (i.e. if Walmart is ever allowed to open shop inside India), when the infrastructure of laws, finance, etc. are still not in place.

MNCs are truly out to safeguard the executives of their own entities, and are the most destructive force for the enterprising capitalistic system. They rob the ingenuity of their workers through intellectual property rights, they rob the host country of any fair taxes and place extra surcharge on their own consultant`s salaries, and generally do not provide institutional knowledge to the host countries. Can anyone genuinely believe that Boeing will allow India to get all their over 100 years of institutional knowledge?

If nobody knows what is the recipe of Coca Cola, then how can one expect Boeing to impart knowledge of making aircrafts to the host country? And this is the biggest drawback a developing country faces.

Something for fractoid junkies from India to consider.

Due to frazzing, US, the most productive economy in the world, wastes over $800B per year. How much does India, the most unproductive economy in the world waste? Any guess? No wonder, Indian code coolies are given less than what diapers costs for American babies. American babies diarrhea is more valuable than Indian code coolies.

Indians are strange creatures for humans to understand.

#129 behram:

it seems you are against MNC`s. but what to you mean by mnc`s?

are these the biggies from u.s. ?

or big companies from all over the world? or any foreign company?


infact, even samsung is a mnc. there are indian mnc`s too.


BTW, it seems you are for employment generation through private enterprise as i was arguing with masadi, which he disagrees with.
our only rift is with mnc. currently i have no problems acquiring growth through FDI or NRI or investments coming from india itself, as long as laws are not trampled upon.

Behram the bevakoof writes:

[quote]
Morrison points to another advantage Mexico has over India: Due to U.S. legislative restrictions, certain kinds of projects involving sensitive aviation and energy technology are more likely to go to Mexico than to India, a nuclear-power nation.
[quote]

Sure, definitely this is a brillaint point.

Trained manpower surplus in Mexico available for these projects: 0. Reputation of mexican management in technology and project delivery in US: non-existent. Number of mexican students training for careers in IT, management, business process: almost none.

In fairness to the mexicans, their economy is humming along fine. But only a moron would think they have any chance to create this type of services. It takes a lot of trained people and good management for anything of the sort to happen. There is a reason why there are 100,000 indians in US universities this year.

But how would Behram know? I mean he doesnt even know when end is (you know)....

#146 by Naqshbandi on January 27, 2006 2:00pm PT


Islamic Union of Democratic Nations


With a membership of what? 3? Turkey, Indonesia and Morocco?

Another Islamist wet dream borne out of impotent rage against the US..

Why does everything have to descent into an India-vs.-Pakistan war on Chowk? This was supposed to be about Iran, our Muslim brethren to the West with whom historically we have so much in common and who have produced the shining stars of Islamic civilisation (and who are also the fair skinned Aryans who invaded and conquered the indiginous smaller, darker, Dravidian natives in India about 5000 odd years ago, thus bringing advanced civilisation to that land--the first of many conquerers--the last being the British) but people have begun talking about pakistan and india!

As far as the US (and EU) is concerned India is their real interest, Pakistan is just being temporarily used for the time being and will, no doubt, be unceremoniously dumped as soon as it is no longer of tactical use to the Americans. I wish the rulers in Pakistan would realise this and re-align their foreign policy. Again this leads to Iran...Together we can work towards a democratic, Islamic Union of Democratic Nations similar to the EU, from Pakistan to Morocco insha Allah united by One Faith (Islam instead of Secularism) and One Civilisation (Islamic instead of Graeco-Roman) and One Currency (Dinar instead of Euro). This is a long term project, yet it is achievable via the ballot box. Insha Allah.

This is what Pakistan should be aiming for.

Of course, bipolar turd brain is stuck exactly where it should be. Sqautting on railroad tracks can never enlighten the brainless retards. Cut & paste technology can never help you develop knowledge. Serves you right.

hello inbred retard..read this, from a paki newspaper, before the vultures finish what`s left of your brain..or you get shipped to gitmo(or back to karachi)

Reality Pakis

US-India strategic alliance

By Ghayoor Ahmed

HISTORY bears witness to the fact that the United States focused its efforts on building a close relationship with Pakistan only when it deemed it necessary to do so to achieve its limited aims in the region. It did not consider Pakistan important enough to develop long-time relations with.

In contrast, American policymakers have made sustained efforts to develop a cordial and durable relationship with India for the promotion of major US interests in South Asia. This illustrates the dichotomy in America’s attitude towards Pakistan and India.

However, being one of the principal exponents of the non-aligned movement, India preferred to remain politically neutral and in order to attain great power status in the international system it endeavoured to maintain a non-aligned posture. Yet, American policymakers continued to feverishly work to woo India which was seen by them to have strategic possibilities of interest to the United States.

The end of the Cold War, however, brought about a perceptible change in the strategic outlook of India. To all intent and purposes it abandoned its hoary commitments to non-alignment. President Bill Clinton’s visit to India in March 2000 not only opened a new chapter in US-India relations, it was also heralded as a blueprint for future ties between the two countries. Based on the conviction that US interests required strong links with New Delhi, the Bush administration has been exploring ways of creating a strategic partnership with India since 2001.

Consequently, in 2004, the United Sates and India embarked upon a bilateral programme referred to as the Next Steps in the Strategic Partnership (NSSP). Under the aegis of this programme the United States and India agreed to work on a quartet of security issues that included civilian nuclear technology, civilian space technology, high technology trade, and missile defence.

On July 18, 2005, both, the United States and India formally established their strategic partnership in the furtherance of cooperation in a number of areas of mutual interests, including the nuclear field. Many considerations underlay this “new relationship” between the United States and India, which is, however, predicated on their common desire of containing China’s growing military might and its emergence as a political/economic power. China is perceived by both countries as a potential threat to their long-term interests in the region and beyond.

It is generally believed that President Bush, aiming to boost India as a counterbalance against China, has moved closer to accepting it as a nuclear weapon state notwithstanding his rhetoric of a vigorous non-proliferation policy.

It is important to note in this context that while welcoming Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, to the White House on July 18 last year, President Bush described India as a responsible state with advanced nuclear technology, and said that it should acquire the same benefits and advantages as other such states were entitled to. The president also said that he would ask Congress and US allies to revise American laws and international laws to allow nuclear trade with India.

One should not, however, be surprised at Washington’s nuclear cooperation with India which, in fact, dates back to the 1950s when, apart from building the Tarapur nuclear reactor and providing heavy water for its reactors, it also allowed Indian nuclear scientists to study at US nuclear laboratories. Declassified American papers also revealed that, in 1961, the United States had contemplated making India a nuclear power as a counterweight to China. That idea, however, had to be shelved at the time because of some problems in its implementation.

It is difficult to believe that while making a decision about a strategic partnership with India that would facilitate its emergence as a powerful entity with considerable political and military clout conferring upon it the status of a regional hegemon, US policymakers would not have taken into account Pakistan’s sensitivities.

Washington is well aware of Pakistan’s serious concerns about the threat to its security, particularly from its eastern neighbour, which leads one to believe that it deliberately ignored this important aspect.

However, it is equally intriguing that policymakers in Pakistan for many years did not know which way the wind was blowing in US corridors of power and, therefore, could not persuade Washington to adopt an even-handed policy towards Pakistan and India. There no point in making hollow noises against the US-India strategic alliance at this stage as it is now a fait accompli.

The US-India strategic partnership may be in consonance with America’s interests but will, however, create serious problems for all countries in the region as they have disputes with their bigger neighbour. It will particularly hurt Pakistan. Political analysts believe that the existing cordial Pakistan-US relationship might come under severe strain and place the present pro-US regime in Pakistan in a quandary if Pakistan’s legitimate concerns about its security are not addressed by the United States in a satisfactory manner.

Having been on the wrong side of history in Afghanistan and Iraq, the containment of China has now commanded President Bush’s attention. He has decided to use India as a conduit for this purpose. He has entered into a long-term strategic partnership with that country, ostensibly, to build closer ties between the two countries in different fields. The scepticism that this ominous development would upset the delicate balance of power between Pakistan and India and undermine the security of the former is well-founded.

A wide body of opinion in Pakistan is of the view that the United States cannot be relied upon as a dependable ally which underlines the need and urgency of evolving a new strategy that would particularly address the security concerns of their country. For obvious reasons, Pakistan cannot abdicate its responsibility for the preservation of its security and national integrity in the aftermath of the recent overtures the United States has made to India.

Unfortunately, however, Pakistan is also suffering from a number of serious political, economic and social problems. Ethnic and regional conflicts have particularly assumed critical proportions and might impinge upon its national security and territorial integrity.

It is, therefore, equally important to put our own house in order by creating national harmony and reconciliation. The need for pragmatism has never been so acutely felt as today.

The writer is a former ambassador.

#140 by behram1 on January 27, 2006 9:25am PT



Not really. This is sooooo yesterday.


Paki territory was bombed less than 2 weeks ago and the paki government says it didn`t know about it in advance or approve it...

How does the saudi king being invited to crawford or Mexico`s miniscule potential in IT say anything positive about Pakiland?

Reality	Pakis

Just to highlight, one more time, for turd brain Indians.

From Post 141:

Morrison points to another advantage Mexico has over India: Due to U.S. legislative restrictions, certain kinds of projects involving sensitive aviation and energy technology are more likely to go to Mexico than to India, a nuclear-power nation.

Race to the bottom. And that is what IT India is all about.

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http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/060127/b3969427.html?.v=1

Can Latin America Challenge India?

CLOSER TO HOME. Three years ago, Softtek bought General Electric`s (NYSE:GE - News) Mexico-based IT operations, absorbing nearly 1,000 engineers. As a result, Softtek became the multinational`s main nearshore solution for IT work in Latin America, performing support and maintenance for GE`s commercial finance and energy groups. Since then, Softtek`s revenues have been growing 40% annually and hit $146 million in 2005, with more than half of the business from U.S. clients.

Now, Softtek has 3,500 employees, mostly engineers, making it the largest IT outsourcer in Latin America. Softtek, based in Monterrey, Mexico, has offices in the U.S., Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, and Spain.

Why go to Mexico, where labor costs are higher than in India? Because the efficiency gains from working close to the U.S. and in the same time zone mean nearshoring in Mexico costs about the same as offshoring in India, says Trevino. Up to 95% of work can be performed off-site, in Mexico, compared to just 60% to 65% for clients working with Indian providers, she adds.

NONNUCLEAR NEIGHBOR. GE still outsources 90% of its IT work to India, sending just 6% to Mexico, says Steve Morrison, GE`s London-based head of Global IT outsourcing. But, he notes, as India`s costs rise, Mexico will look better and better. ``If things continue as they are, India eventually will be charging the same unit cost as Mexico,`` he says. That`s why Indian companies have been hustling to find ways to perform a higher percentage of the work off-site in India, he says.

Morrison points to another advantage Mexico has over India: Due to U.S. legislative restrictions, certain kinds of projects involving sensitive aviation and energy technology are more likely to go to Mexico than to India, a nuclear-power nation.

Argentina, which boasts one of the best-educated workforces in Latin America, also is aggressively promoting software development centers. That effort was helped by a major 2002 currency devaluation that made Argentina super-cost-competitive and drove down the cost of engineers to less than $12,000 a year. The industry has been growing two to three times as fast as the overall economy and this year will have revenues of about $1.6 billion.

``Economies in acute crisis have one major advantage: You can start a new company with a smaller investment and find highly skilled and motivated people very easily,`` says Carlos Pallotti, Datastream Systems` managing director for Latin America and president of Argentina`s Association of Information Technology Companies.

Obviously turd brains are incapable of understanding the difference between requesting foreign investors and schmoozing like a whore in front of MNC`s. It is real hard for these factoid junkies, who squat on railroad tracks, to understand the true meaning of MNC`s investing. No matter how much hindoo chicks want white sugar daddies, the MNC`s will not deliver benefit to the locals. Just look at Jamshedpur, where Tatas have successfully tried to maintain business relationships based on equality and magnanimity. However, those who like to be banged galore have something else coming to them.

Alas, for turd brains, this is all too advanced to comprehend.

{ 2) Pakiland`s reputation as a jihadi hotbed...} Not really. This is sooooo yesterday. Only factoid junkie would claim that. Why would Pakistan`s Prime Minister be invited to the White House? Why was King of Saudi Arabia invited to G.W. Bush`s ranch? Very few foreign heads of state are ever invited to the President`s ranch. And where did Indian PM visited last?

It is real hard for turd brains to notice the dynamics of modern economic forces.

US homeland security forces have noticed those dark and ugly creatures who call themselves Indians. It is hard for humans to understand these creatures.

Once again, muslims will shine and hindoos will remain a subset of muslims.

BUSH KE LAADLAY KUTTAY