Iran, Geopolitics and the Bomb
Asif Naqshbandi January 22, 2006
#177 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 6:45:07 pm
As usual, Indian Hindoos can`t make up their mind.
Is Iran India`s friend? Most say yes, except for this bipolar factoid junkie. The other who has rocks bouncing around in his skull is still MIA. He must be waiting on the railraod tracks doing his early morning thing. Maybe all these Hindoos should huddle on the railroad tracks and think what is going to happen to their society. With the pressure mounting while squatting maybe their brains would ooze out from between their legs.
Indians are strange creatures hard for humans to understand.
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#178 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 6:57:00 pm
Bipolar factoid junkie is stuck and can`t comprehend a simple post:
>>>#172 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 1:23pm PT
Bipolar Factoid Junkie and other hindoos are on a collision course. Indians on this chowk can`t decide whether India is Iran`s friend or not? I know India is NOT. <<<
Actually, I agree with his views and yet his bipolar nature continues to harp on irrelevancy.
Maybe that madrasi hate monger would should up and explain his position, and then bipolar factoid junkie would be isolated permanently. He could even agree with me.
Oooooh! what fun would it be to shaft these idiots in the darkest corner of chowk.....
#179 Posted by Ranjit on January 28, 2006 7:20:36 pm
Re:behram all
Yaar, why dont u come over to our side? You are a zoroastrian, not a muslim. You seem to be well educated and successful. What do you have in common with people like urstruly, ali1 and malik99? Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan? Even Salim bhai is on our side. :-)
We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas. Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.
So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)
Yaar, why dont u come over to our side? You are a zoroastrian, not a muslim. You seem to be well educated and successful. What do you have in common with people like urstruly, ali1 and malik99? Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan? Even Salim bhai is on our side. :-)
We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas. Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.
So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)
#180 Posted by rsridhar on January 28, 2006 7:53:08 pm
re:#175 by ranjit
Just because an ambassador shot of his mouth some stupid statement does not mean US is trying to browbeat India.
These kind of things happen in diplomatic circles. US diplomats are not known for their diplomacy, especially those serving in developing countries. India did right by summoning the ambassador and giving him a ``diplomatic dressdown``.
All this does still does not change the real picture. Iran is a dangerous nation. It is not just an ideological nation (like Pak) but a nation ruled by a nutcase who will very likely pass on the nuclear weapon to Hamas or probably use it at the first instance.
I do not know why Iran is considered a friend of India. This probably happened more out of compulsion during the cold war days. Now-a-days, India and US are forging a new relationship and there is nothing much to gain from Iran.
The only thing Iran has (that is useful to India) is gas. There is noway that will ever be sold to India. The pipeline is now a pipedream. There is nothing else to be gained from Iran. I suspect this year will see a UN sponsored war against Iran.
Sridhar
Just because an ambassador shot of his mouth some stupid statement does not mean US is trying to browbeat India.
These kind of things happen in diplomatic circles. US diplomats are not known for their diplomacy, especially those serving in developing countries. India did right by summoning the ambassador and giving him a ``diplomatic dressdown``.
All this does still does not change the real picture. Iran is a dangerous nation. It is not just an ideological nation (like Pak) but a nation ruled by a nutcase who will very likely pass on the nuclear weapon to Hamas or probably use it at the first instance.
I do not know why Iran is considered a friend of India. This probably happened more out of compulsion during the cold war days. Now-a-days, India and US are forging a new relationship and there is nothing much to gain from Iran.
The only thing Iran has (that is useful to India) is gas. There is noway that will ever be sold to India. The pipeline is now a pipedream. There is nothing else to be gained from Iran. I suspect this year will see a UN sponsored war against Iran.
Sridhar
#181 Posted by rsridhar on January 28, 2006 8:05:33 pm
re: US-India relationship: a new paradigm?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/24/AR2006012401804_2.html
(U.S. Troops on Front Line Of Expanding India Ties
Post-9/11 Shift Stresses Common Interests
By John Lancaster
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, January 25, 2006; Page A01
CHAUBATIA, India -- More than half a century after independence, foreign soldiers have returned to this onetime colonial garrison of tin-roofed bungalows, stone churches and panoramic Himalayan views. But this time, the soldiers` accents are American, not British, and their purpose is not to subdue India but to cultivate it as an ally.
In the latest of a series of such exercises, 120 U.S. combat troops have come here to train with their Indian counterparts in areas such as counterinsurgency and peacekeeping. Besides taking classroom instruction, they are firing Indian weapons, bonding with Indian soldiers over games of soccer and volleyball, and even developing a taste for vegetarian cuisine, albeit with spices toned down for sensitive American palates.
``When you get the armies together, it`s like saying, `Hey, we can work together, we can accomplish this together,` `` said U.S. Army Capt. Robert Atienza, 31, of San Diego, who commands the Hawaii-based infantry company that is participating in the 2 1/2 -week exercise that began last week. ``It`s very broad.``
The exercise is an example of the striking improvement in relations between the United States and India following decades of Cold War estrangement and more recent tensions stemming from India`s nuclear tests in 1998.
Spurred by the United States, the two governments have signed commercial, scientific and military agreements in the last two years and are negotiating a controversial deal that could permit the sale of civilian nuclear technology to India. The Bush administration is eager to cultivate India as a partner in counterterrorism and, some analysts say, as a strategic counterweight to China.
The warming trend is also reflected in the surge of interest in India among U.S. business leaders such as Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft Corp., who recently announced a $1.7 billion investment in the country, the latest in a string of such commitments by U.S. technology firms eager to cash in on India`s booming economy and surplus of inexpensive brainpower.
Other indicators include the parade of U.S. lawmakers through New Delhi in recent months and steadily expanding commercial air links. In addition, a record number of Indian students -- more than 80,000 -- are studying at U.S. universities, according to the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi.
President Bush is scheduled to visit India for the first time in early March at the invitation of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, a self-effacing economist who met with Bush at the White House last July. In New Delhi on Friday, Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said the planned visit is ``really reflective of the very significant transformation that has taken place, and is taking place, in India-U.S. relations.``
Saran was speaking at a news conference after meetings with Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns, who was making his third visit to the Indian capital in the last six months. ``India is one of the few countries in the world that has the capability to act globally and has the same basic interests as the United States,`` Burns said in a telephone interview from New Delhi.
The two countries still have important differences. In particular, India has a long history of warm relations with Iran and is pursuing plans to build a natural gas pipeline from Iran across Pakistan, a move that the Bush administration has warned could trigger sanctions against Indian companies under a U.S. law aimed at isolating Iran`s Islamic regime. Indian officials say the project is essential to their country`s energy security.
Partly for that reason, India has walked a tightrope in its handling of the standoff between Iran and the United States over allegations that Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons.
India`s reluctance to dance entirely to Washington`s tune stems in part from the influence of political parties opposed to the Bush administration`s policies on Iraq and free trade.
One of the most important tests of the new relationship centers on the agreement signed by Bush and Singh in Washington last July that would give India access to nuclear fuel and reactors to produce electricity. Under the deal, the United States would lift a ban on the sale of such technology to India, provided that India opens up its civilian nuclear facilities to international inspections and other safeguards.
That cannot happen, however, until the administration and India agree on a plan to separate the country`s civilian and military nuclear facilities. The U.S. Congress would then have to vote on the deal, which critics say would weaken efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and create perceptions of a double standard in U.S. dealings with such countries as Iran and North Korea.
``The nonproliferation system is built on rules,`` said Michael Krepon, a specialist on the issue at the Henry L. Stimson Center in Washington. ``They`re not always honored, but having them makes it easier to gang up on people who break the rules. The approach the administration is taking is very poisonous to all that.``
U.S. officials say the deal would strengthen nonproliferation efforts by opening up India`s civilian nuclear facilities to outside inspection for the first time. India, they say, is entitled to special treatment in light of its democratic values and exemplary record of preventing nuclear secrets from falling into the wrong hands.
Burns said in the interview that his discussions last week with Indian officials had not yielded a breakthrough on the separation plan, and he made no prediction about whether a deal would be secured in time for Bush`s visit. ``It`s a possibility but not a certainty,`` he said.
If the deal does fall apart, ``a lot of people would be quite happy to say, `We told you the United States cannot be trusted,` `` said C. Raja Mohan, an analyst and commentator in New Delhi.
Other analysts say the relationship would survive such a setback, citing many common interests. Already, they note, India and the United States are working closely to coordinate policy on regional concerns such as instability in Nepal and Bangladesh. ``The relationship is going to stand on its own,`` Burns said.
The goodwill marks a sharp change from the Cold War, when India was a champion of the Non-Aligned Movement and had close ties to the Soviet Union. Relations began to improve in the early 1990s following the Soviet collapse and India`s initial moves to liberalize its economy. But they nosedived when the United States imposed sanctions in response to India`s 1998 nuclear tests.
The Bush administration lifted the sanctions after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and has promoted India as a new global partner, citing its vast economic potential and status as the world`s largest democracy.
Analysts say the White House drive to court India was also influenced by frustration with traditional allies such as France and Germany and concerns over the rising power of China.
The administration has paid special attention to strengthening India`s military capabilities.
Since 2002, India and the United States have held a number of naval, air and ground exercises. The latest is being conducted in Chaubatia, an army base that was established by the British Indian Army in the late 19th century in the forested Himalayan foothills about 90 miles northeast of New Delhi. It is now occupied by the Indian army`s Kumaon Regiment and, at least through the end of January, by the men of Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, which is part of the 25th Infantry Division out of Scofield Barracks, Hawaii.
Chaubatia is an exotic setting for the exercise, with its striking views of snow-capped peaks, immaculate grounds and road sign alerting drivers that ``leopards have right of way.``
One morning last week, Atienza, the company commander, lectured Indian soldiers on lessons learned during the battalion`s year-long tour of Afghanistan, which ended in March 2004, as an interpreter translated his words into Hindi. In other classes, Indian officers shared their experiences fighting Islamic guerrillas in Kashmir. Later in the day, Indian and American troops converged on a firing range, where they took turns shooting each other`s assault rifles at pop-up targets.K
In part, the exercise is aimed at bridging cultural gaps between the two militaries. Several American officers, for example, said they had been struck by the relative lack of autonomy vested in Indian soldiers at the platoon level. And an Indian officer, who under Indian army ground rules could not be identified by name, said the U.S. soldiers were ``quite relaxed,`` adding philosophically, ``That is their way.``)
Sridhar
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/24/AR2006012401804_2.html
(U.S. Troops on Front Line Of Expanding India Ties
Post-9/11 Shift Stresses Common Interests
By John Lancaster
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, January 25, 2006; Page A01
CHAUBATIA, India -- More than half a century after independence, foreign soldiers have returned to this onetime colonial garrison of tin-roofed bungalows, stone churches and panoramic Himalayan views. But this time, the soldiers` accents are American, not British, and their purpose is not to subdue India but to cultivate it as an ally.
In the latest of a series of such exercises, 120 U.S. combat troops have come here to train with their Indian counterparts in areas such as counterinsurgency and peacekeeping. Besides taking classroom instruction, they are firing Indian weapons, bonding with Indian soldiers over games of soccer and volleyball, and even developing a taste for vegetarian cuisine, albeit with spices toned down for sensitive American palates.
``When you get the armies together, it`s like saying, `Hey, we can work together, we can accomplish this together,` `` said U.S. Army Capt. Robert Atienza, 31, of San Diego, who commands the Hawaii-based infantry company that is participating in the 2 1/2 -week exercise that began last week. ``It`s very broad.``
The exercise is an example of the striking improvement in relations between the United States and India following decades of Cold War estrangement and more recent tensions stemming from India`s nuclear tests in 1998.
Spurred by the United States, the two governments have signed commercial, scientific and military agreements in the last two years and are negotiating a controversial deal that could permit the sale of civilian nuclear technology to India. The Bush administration is eager to cultivate India as a partner in counterterrorism and, some analysts say, as a strategic counterweight to China.
The warming trend is also reflected in the surge of interest in India among U.S. business leaders such as Bill Gates, the chairman of Microsoft Corp., who recently announced a $1.7 billion investment in the country, the latest in a string of such commitments by U.S. technology firms eager to cash in on India`s booming economy and surplus of inexpensive brainpower.
Other indicators include the parade of U.S. lawmakers through New Delhi in recent months and steadily expanding commercial air links. In addition, a record number of Indian students -- more than 80,000 -- are studying at U.S. universities, according to the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi.
President Bush is scheduled to visit India for the first time in early March at the invitation of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, a self-effacing economist who met with Bush at the White House last July. In New Delhi on Friday, Indian Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran said the planned visit is ``really reflective of the very significant transformation that has taken place, and is taking place, in India-U.S. relations.``
Saran was speaking at a news conference after meetings with Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns, who was making his third visit to the Indian capital in the last six months. ``India is one of the few countries in the world that has the capability to act globally and has the same basic interests as the United States,`` Burns said in a telephone interview from New Delhi.
The two countries still have important differences. In particular, India has a long history of warm relations with Iran and is pursuing plans to build a natural gas pipeline from Iran across Pakistan, a move that the Bush administration has warned could trigger sanctions against Indian companies under a U.S. law aimed at isolating Iran`s Islamic regime. Indian officials say the project is essential to their country`s energy security.
Partly for that reason, India has walked a tightrope in its handling of the standoff between Iran and the United States over allegations that Iran is secretly developing nuclear weapons.
India`s reluctance to dance entirely to Washington`s tune stems in part from the influence of political parties opposed to the Bush administration`s policies on Iraq and free trade.
One of the most important tests of the new relationship centers on the agreement signed by Bush and Singh in Washington last July that would give India access to nuclear fuel and reactors to produce electricity. Under the deal, the United States would lift a ban on the sale of such technology to India, provided that India opens up its civilian nuclear facilities to international inspections and other safeguards.
That cannot happen, however, until the administration and India agree on a plan to separate the country`s civilian and military nuclear facilities. The U.S. Congress would then have to vote on the deal, which critics say would weaken efforts to curb the spread of nuclear weapons and create perceptions of a double standard in U.S. dealings with such countries as Iran and North Korea.
``The nonproliferation system is built on rules,`` said Michael Krepon, a specialist on the issue at the Henry L. Stimson Center in Washington. ``They`re not always honored, but having them makes it easier to gang up on people who break the rules. The approach the administration is taking is very poisonous to all that.``
U.S. officials say the deal would strengthen nonproliferation efforts by opening up India`s civilian nuclear facilities to outside inspection for the first time. India, they say, is entitled to special treatment in light of its democratic values and exemplary record of preventing nuclear secrets from falling into the wrong hands.
Burns said in the interview that his discussions last week with Indian officials had not yielded a breakthrough on the separation plan, and he made no prediction about whether a deal would be secured in time for Bush`s visit. ``It`s a possibility but not a certainty,`` he said.
If the deal does fall apart, ``a lot of people would be quite happy to say, `We told you the United States cannot be trusted,` `` said C. Raja Mohan, an analyst and commentator in New Delhi.
Other analysts say the relationship would survive such a setback, citing many common interests. Already, they note, India and the United States are working closely to coordinate policy on regional concerns such as instability in Nepal and Bangladesh. ``The relationship is going to stand on its own,`` Burns said.
The goodwill marks a sharp change from the Cold War, when India was a champion of the Non-Aligned Movement and had close ties to the Soviet Union. Relations began to improve in the early 1990s following the Soviet collapse and India`s initial moves to liberalize its economy. But they nosedived when the United States imposed sanctions in response to India`s 1998 nuclear tests.
The Bush administration lifted the sanctions after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and has promoted India as a new global partner, citing its vast economic potential and status as the world`s largest democracy.
Analysts say the White House drive to court India was also influenced by frustration with traditional allies such as France and Germany and concerns over the rising power of China.
The administration has paid special attention to strengthening India`s military capabilities.
Since 2002, India and the United States have held a number of naval, air and ground exercises. The latest is being conducted in Chaubatia, an army base that was established by the British Indian Army in the late 19th century in the forested Himalayan foothills about 90 miles northeast of New Delhi. It is now occupied by the Indian army`s Kumaon Regiment and, at least through the end of January, by the men of Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, which is part of the 25th Infantry Division out of Scofield Barracks, Hawaii.
Chaubatia is an exotic setting for the exercise, with its striking views of snow-capped peaks, immaculate grounds and road sign alerting drivers that ``leopards have right of way.``
One morning last week, Atienza, the company commander, lectured Indian soldiers on lessons learned during the battalion`s year-long tour of Afghanistan, which ended in March 2004, as an interpreter translated his words into Hindi. In other classes, Indian officers shared their experiences fighting Islamic guerrillas in Kashmir. Later in the day, Indian and American troops converged on a firing range, where they took turns shooting each other`s assault rifles at pop-up targets.K
In part, the exercise is aimed at bridging cultural gaps between the two militaries. Several American officers, for example, said they had been struck by the relative lack of autonomy vested in Indian soldiers at the platoon level. And an Indian officer, who under Indian army ground rules could not be identified by name, said the U.S. soldiers were ``quite relaxed,`` adding philosophically, ``That is their way.``)
Sridhar
#182 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 28, 2006 8:27:31 pm
#179, Ranjit {``You are a zoroastrian, not a muslim. You seem to be well educated and successful. What do you have in common with people like urstruly, ali1 and malik99? Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan? Even Salim bhai is on our side. :-) ``}
Ranjit Bhai,
Yes, I am on the side that is more logical and more humane. That varies from issue to issue and topic to topic. :)
For the record, I am not a Bihari Pharisee, as alleged by some, and would like to be cremated rather than consumed by bugs underground or vultures above ground - I just have a very low threshold for pain, even when I am dead. Thanks. :)
Ranjit Bhai,
Yes, I am on the side that is more logical and more humane. That varies from issue to issue and topic to topic. :)
For the record, I am not a Bihari Pharisee, as alleged by some, and would like to be cremated rather than consumed by bugs underground or vultures above ground - I just have a very low threshold for pain, even when I am dead. Thanks. :)
#183 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:08:18 pm
Strange creatures, otherwise also known as Hindoos, have no idea where to put their mouths to have a good morning suck. They huddle on railroad tracks as their spiritual leader Gandhi had decreed. They are enemies of their neighbors. It is time for some sugar cane therapy for the dung eating creatures.
#184 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:19:27 pm
India must be shafted and India will be shafted...
Rejoice Pakistanis with the following news:
http://dawn.com/2006/01/29/top1.htm
Pipeline plan may be delayed
By Ihtasham ul Haque
ISLAMABAD, Jan 28: Pakistan is facing difficulties to go ahead with the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline project due to the mounting US pressure on Islamabad and New Delhi to give up the over $7 billion plan.
Informed sources told Dawn on Saturday, though almost all technical and professional issues had been sorted out among the three stakeholders, the intensifying US opposition to the project could delay its execution.
The remaining issues of pipeline structure and gas pricing will be sorted out in tripartite talks to be held in Iran next month, but the officials concerned fear for the progress of the project under the present circumstances.
President Gen Pervez Musharraf said in Davos on Thursday that Pakistan had no plans to ditch the natural gas deal with Iran. If the United States wanted Pakistan to stay away from the project, it should pay the compensation.
Sources said that all the three countries were keen to sign the final agreement as early as possible, but could not “straightaway” reject the US reservations over the IPI gas project.
“If everything goes as per plan, we should be able to start this project by June next year. But I am afraid, I cannot speak about the political issues which are of course important and need to be settled,” a source said.
He said the target of achieving 7.5-8 per cent GDP growth rate could not come true without having all the three gas projects finalised.
“At least two gas pipeline projects have to be firmed up to achieve the desired growth rate in near future,” a source said.
Talks on Turkmenistan gas project, he said, would be held on Feb 13-15, while the Qatar government had been requested to give time for initiating discussion on a gas pipeline project from Qatar to Pakistan.
Sources said that keeping in view the financial and technical viability of the IPI project, it was not difficult to arrange a foreign consortium to manage funding for it and other two gas projects, sources added.
Iran has proposed a segmented approach to build the trans-national pipeline, which means that each country should construct the pipeline in its respective territory. Another proposal is to lay the whole pipeline as an integrated project from gas field in Iran to distribution points in Pakistan and India.
The Pakistan’s Interstate Gas Company Limited (IGCL) has appointed Pricewaterhouse Coopers as financial adviser to propose a best possible structure of the project from Pakistan’s point of view.
Islamabad has sent a gas pricing formula to Iran, which is based on gas pricing mechanism in Pakistan.
This is just the beginning. Mighty Persian and Arab khajoor injected sugar cane therapies are on its to treat the Indians on how to behave with neighbors......
#185 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:41:12 pm
Re: # 179
ranjit:
Thanks, but no thanks. I am very comfortable with Pakistanis. Yes, being a Zoroastrian, I truly love my country of birth Pakistan. In my life I have always trusted Pakistanis. Pakistanis are good humans. There is no reason for me to become a Hindustani.
{Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan?} Why don`t you make a trip to Pakistan, then? You will find Pakistanis thousand times better than your countrymen.
The hate that Hindoos have been promoting on this Chowk is not what Pakistanis are all about.
{We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas.} Zoroastrians get along with everyone in Pakistan as well. Parsees have schools, hospitals, and even a University in Pakistan. They truly live as royal citizens of Pakistan. Go check it out yourself.
{Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.} But, Behram prefers to live in Pakistan, and that is what matters the most.
{So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)} Actually, it is hindoos who have ``gussa`` against Pakistanis. Ask them to be civilized and stop spewing hate.
ranjit:
Thanks, but no thanks. I am very comfortable with Pakistanis. Yes, being a Zoroastrian, I truly love my country of birth Pakistan. In my life I have always trusted Pakistanis. Pakistanis are good humans. There is no reason for me to become a Hindustani.
{Manto is an exception but other than him, what else is there in Pakistan?} Why don`t you make a trip to Pakistan, then? You will find Pakistanis thousand times better than your countrymen.
The hate that Hindoos have been promoting on this Chowk is not what Pakistanis are all about.
{We hindus get along well with zorostarians and they succeed beyond all imagination in India like the Tatas.} Zoroastrians get along with everyone in Pakistan as well. Parsees have schools, hospitals, and even a University in Pakistan. They truly live as royal citizens of Pakistan. Go check it out yourself.
{Even Jinnah`s grandson Nusli Wadia, a parsee, prefers to live in India.} But, Behram prefers to live in Pakistan, and that is what matters the most.
{So what say? Thook do gussa aur ban jao hindustani!! :-)} Actually, it is hindoos who have ``gussa`` against Pakistanis. Ask them to be civilized and stop spewing hate.
#186 Posted by Behram1 on January 28, 2006 10:20:07 pm
O! MS, O! GE, O! why don`t ye help India with Washington....
India must learn how to behave. Oops, no Syrian oilfield for the suckers....
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006 01 29 story_29-1-2006_pg7_2
US warns India against investing in Syrian oilfield
NEW DELHI: Washington, which is negotiating a landmark civilian nuclear deal with India, has asked New Delhi to reconsider its decision to buy a Syrian oilfield with China, a report said on Saturday. The demand was made earlier this month and a note with Washington’s objections was handed over to Indian foreign ministry officials, The Hindu newspaper reported.
The report came after the US ambassador to India warned earlier this week that the country could lose out on the crucial nuclear deal if it does not vote against Iran’s nuclear programme at a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) February 2.
Kicking India where it hurts. Treat them like dogs.
#187 Posted by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 1:29:48 am
#174 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 6:10pm PT
inbred retard..
here`s another factoid...Pakistan is neither China or South Korea...And the non-inbred world fails to see how Chinese growth rates reflect positively on Pakiland..
inbred retard..
here`s another factoid...Pakistan is neither China or South Korea...And the non-inbred world fails to see how Chinese growth rates reflect positively on Pakiland..
#188 Posted by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 2:08:14 am
Hello inbred retard...did you even read the article YOU posted...guess who is getting shafted..
#184 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:19pm PT
India must be shafted and India will be shafted...
He said the target of achieving 7.5-8 per cent GDP growth rate could not come true without having all the three gas projects finalised.
#184 by behram1 on January 28, 2006 9:19pm PT
India must be shafted and India will be shafted...
He said the target of achieving 7.5-8 per cent GDP growth rate could not come true without having all the three gas projects finalised.
#189 Posted by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 2:18:01 am
When the big dog wants to kill islamic terrorists, it kills islamic terrorists..
The missing border
Until now, the president and his supporters have been able to convince most Pakistanis that his post 9/11 policies have rescued Pakistan and enabled it to escape the unending US wrath. The majority of our people felt it was prudent not to cross America`s path at a time when it was relentlessly pursuing a policy to avenge the 9/11 attacks. The president had promised the nation that his pro-US policies would bring both political and economic rewards. He had told them a grateful and helpful America would help solve the Kashmir problem and enable Pakistan to protect its nuclear programme.
Those promises remain largely unfulfilled. Though US economic and military assistance to Pakistan resumed and was useful, critics still maintain that Pakistan under a democratic dispensation would have extracted greater help from Washington. On the face of it, the US has moved closer to India and pushed Pakistan to make unilateral concessions on a host of issues including Kashmir, nuclear programme, and the war on terrorism.
There are other theories as well with everyone interpreting the presidential omission in his or her own way. We don`t know what was in the president`s mind when he opted to ignore the Bajaur incident in his speech and instead focused on the issues of dams, Balochistan and National Finance Commission. He treated it as a non-event even if the US attack and the killing of 13 innocent men, women and children had damaged Pakistan`s claims to be a sovereign state and hurt our self-respect. By mentioning the Bajaur tragedy the president could have consoled the survivors and the many other Pakistanis grieving for the victims and blunted the opposition`s protests.
By not mentioning Bajaur, the president gave the impression as if he too is helpless before the mighty US.
The missing border
Until now, the president and his supporters have been able to convince most Pakistanis that his post 9/11 policies have rescued Pakistan and enabled it to escape the unending US wrath. The majority of our people felt it was prudent not to cross America`s path at a time when it was relentlessly pursuing a policy to avenge the 9/11 attacks. The president had promised the nation that his pro-US policies would bring both political and economic rewards. He had told them a grateful and helpful America would help solve the Kashmir problem and enable Pakistan to protect its nuclear programme.
Those promises remain largely unfulfilled. Though US economic and military assistance to Pakistan resumed and was useful, critics still maintain that Pakistan under a democratic dispensation would have extracted greater help from Washington. On the face of it, the US has moved closer to India and pushed Pakistan to make unilateral concessions on a host of issues including Kashmir, nuclear programme, and the war on terrorism.
There are other theories as well with everyone interpreting the presidential omission in his or her own way. We don`t know what was in the president`s mind when he opted to ignore the Bajaur incident in his speech and instead focused on the issues of dams, Balochistan and National Finance Commission. He treated it as a non-event even if the US attack and the killing of 13 innocent men, women and children had damaged Pakistan`s claims to be a sovereign state and hurt our self-respect. By mentioning the Bajaur tragedy the president could have consoled the survivors and the many other Pakistanis grieving for the victims and blunted the opposition`s protests.
By not mentioning Bajaur, the president gave the impression as if he too is helpless before the mighty US.
#190 Posted by Behram1 on January 29, 2006 6:35:00 am
Ref:#187 by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 1:29am PT
Bipolor Factoid Junkie:
China is doing great. South Korea is doing great. Widow killers are just stuck on railroad tracks sqautting.
Birds of a feather flock together. If China does great, Pakistanis feel they are doing great. And in effect, Pakistanis are doing great.
It requires intelligence to understand this which railroad track squatters do not have.
#191 Posted by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 9:37:18 am
#190 by behram1 on January 29, 2006 6:35am PT
If China does great, Pakistanis feel they are doing great.
Even for an inbred retard self-delusional paki, this takes the cake...
Going by your logic, Pakiland should feel great for having sent a man to space..
If China does great, Pakistanis feel they are doing great.
Even for an inbred retard self-delusional paki, this takes the cake...
Going by your logic, Pakiland should feel great for having sent a man to space..
#192 Posted by arjun_m on January 29, 2006 11:04:03 am
How long before the pakis tell us they didn`t want a deal anyways....
‘US says no to Pakistan on India-like nuclear deal’
‘US says no to Pakistan on India-like nuclear deal’
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