The Fundo Chic?

Agreed...

Ref:#27
Mantolives.
Zakir, Israr or whomsoever. I believe it is an act of delusion to look for (or more so), discover a so-called ``educated`` preacher/evangelist. After all, what you see as ``insidious, bigoted and ridiculous,`` is calmly explained as being persuasive, outspoken and chrarismatic by some. And not to forget, of course, educated.
Thus, no evangelist/preacher can be better than the other. But I agree, they can be worse.

Rgds,
NfP

Ballu...

On the contrary ... I find that Dr Zakir Naik is even more insidious, bigoted and ridiculous than Dr Israr Ahmed...

Mantilives: [apparently he wants us all to look like Irfan Pathan`s parents.]

LOL. Well as long as he dosn`t want us to look like himself. However, seriously, I do think he sounds more educated than the rest.

Re: # 24

Israr Ahmed certainly does not have a ``large`` fan following amongst IM-s.....certainly there is no comparison with Dr. Zakir Naik who is better educated and more erudite compared to the Israr Ahmed who is a typical Pakistani mullah..............

Dr Israr is worse than these ``preachers`` mind you.

He is also a TV preacher... who has his own world view... which includes a non-violent struggle to slowly impose his version of Islam on Pakistan and India... and then make a grand caliphate. He is also pretty active in Indian Muslims for being better Muslims than Pakistanis... apparently he wants us all to look like Irfan Pathan`s parents.

I have respect for people like Dr. Israr but none for these fashionable new preachers. This is a timely article NFP, something I am sure you will have a problem with in Pakistani print media.

I think TV is certainly exposing all these Islamists who would like to make OBL or KKK T-Shirts appear chic in societies......................I hope that people like NFP write more about such attempt by the conservatives to radicalize civil societies.

Infact, we must ensure that people STOP giving donations to religious organizations because these organizations try to create havoc within multi-religious and multi-cultural societies.............................

and for Islamic societies these organizations try to gather political clout and support by creating conflict situations external to their societies..................

Re: # 19

fazool approach and logic!

#11 ZahraJ
Yes, I questioned her with my concerns. I first listened to her point of views, then I gave her my point of view. There was a clear difference between my listening to her opinions, which she labelled as Islamic and mine. She showed me an obvious intolerance and I showed her tolerance and I didn`t use any Islamic reference. I could easily see anger in her eyes for me. She was angry at my questions. I told her that I notice that those who are hijabies think they can do anything and get away in the name of Islam, by doing that they automatically become superior clads, some kind of mominaas.All of them become extremely judgemental and self righteous, the moment they wear hijab and follows Farhat Hashmi`s classes .Her sermon was about suppression of women with out basic concept of humanity. I told her that,`` listen, Dr. Hashmi, we are already good muslims with good Islamic knowledge , we don`t need your useless details of few hours daily, rather, we should spend those hours in different community hospitals or helping those in need, look at the poverty level in Pakistan, what is your agenda on that? I told her, `` It is shame for all of us, more than 85% of Pakistani population is living with out basic needs , below poverty levels. What have you done for them so, far? `` Her answer was again, towards suppression of women, and fearing me with anger of God, if, I will question her again. I told her, listen lady,`` It is easy to sit in an airconditioned room and talking for four hours to rich lazy women. But, it is hard to go out and help those poor ladies in slums.``

FeaturesFrom Daily Times
Farhat Hashmi, the controversial Pakistani Islamic fundamentalist, says those who died in the October 8 Pakistan earthquake were punished by God for their ?immoral activities?. In a weekend interview with a correspondent of the Toronto-based Globe and Mail newspaper, she said, ?The people in the area where the earthquake hit were involved in immoral activities and God has said that he will punish those who do not follow his path.?

Hashmi was immediately criticised by Tarek Fatah, communications director of the Muslim Canadian Congress, who said, ?What sort of a sick mind would suggest that the over 20,000 Pakistani and Kashmiri children who were buried alive in their schools were ?involved in immoral activities???

Ref ZahraJ #11

[By the way, I have never read anyone writing Farhat with an ``e``. I have a few friends with the same first name. They always write it with an ``a`` vs. an ``e``. Is there any difference in the meaning by using an ``e``?]

Try For-Hate with an ``e``!

Urstruly

Good point. But how does one go about doing this when Ms. Hashmi has entered their drawing rooms? Don`t tell them to leave because I hardly know of any women being dragged down to inhumanity thru vulgarity in very many drawing rooms, are they?

Cheers.

Those people who do not like Farhat Hashmi, should turn their TVs off. After all it is the same advice they give to those people who can not tolerate seeing women dragged down to inhumanity thru vulgarity in the name of freedom.

NFP,
Bravo. Thoroughly enjoyed your article, how about one on the invasion of our cricket team dressing room by Tablighees.

Darth Vader on helium

LOL

I`m trying to get an interview out of her and its killing me...

Aisha Sarwari

mantolives#10, I know indian state tv use to have these kinds of programs but i think such religious programs are new thing on private indian channels ....