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Is the American Dream Dead? Can Asians Think?

Athar Osama February 13, 2006

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#60 Posted by tahmed32 on February 14, 2006 2:01:01 pm
ahmedzai #52 i have not followed this ``sub-thread`` between you, kulharee and maxwellcoffee but you have to admit that kulharee taking your list of ``Steffi Graff, Boris Becker, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Beckenbaur, etc. `` and turning them into guards at a nazi concentration camp was funny. :-)
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#59 Posted by Kulharee on February 14, 2006 1:32:04 pm
Re # 58

If I am not mistaken they were the guards at Konzentrationslagers. Your turn will come one day, for now, eat your brotchen and jink your Pils and dream of the United States.
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#58 Posted by Jamesmaxwell on February 14, 2006 1:11:10 pm
Re: # 52

Well said Ahmadzai. But given the level of general knowledge in the US, I doubt that he has heard of these people.
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#57 Posted by Urstruly on February 14, 2006 12:04:02 pm
Re: # 56

stop putting ideas in my head with phrases like `` heifers in tight jeans``, you masihi choohay
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#56 Posted by hamidm2 on February 14, 2006 11:27:36 am
Re: # 54

tahmed mian,

..... i hope maulana urstruly gets to read this - you know i have this long running love affair with him ! ......if he doesn`t show up on this board i`ll have to re-post it untill i get a response from him - i know it sounds perverse, but i do get a kick out of riling him !
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#55 Posted by tahmed32 on February 14, 2006 10:58:34 am
kulharee: actually it is not eurotrash that i am worried about. it is the muslimtrash who are right now are rampaging around in lahore. damn these ``muslims``.
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#54 Posted by tahmed32 on February 14, 2006 10:56:15 am
enjoyed reading it, hamidm. but soon, it will be covered in a blanket of snow, i mean posts. Please submit it to Ms. Versey as an article. if you dont, i hereby threaten to send it to Ms. Versey Editor-in-Chief myself and demand it be published or else the entire muslim world will be up in arms burning buildings, making red danish flags and burning them, overturning cars, and holding their breath until they all turn blue!! That will teach the rest of the world a lesson on how you dont mess with the ``muslim`` world.

(note to love2love: in anticipation of your question, here is the answer: the above is tongue-in-cheek too. )
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#53 Posted by hamidm2 on February 14, 2006 10:23:46 am


medina on my mind - a recent conversation with mullah urstruly of flint


(in a ramshackle old bar in the dilapidated city of flint in south east michigan, the mullah and the sage (that would be me) are sitting at a wobbly table on which years ago mary jo and bubba joe had carved out their names with his hunting knife – the same hunting knife that bubba had used to skin a deer that he had run over with his ford truck earlier in the day.............the mullah , his long face made longer by the scraggly moslem beard that covered his sallow cheeks , looks morose and down in the dumps as he sips on a shirley temple.......... the sage, as usual looks plump and happy clutching his gin and tonic, his chubby cheeks glowing in the flashing red and pink neon lights from the juke box playing “georgia on my mind “ )

sage : mullah ji, why the long face ? .............. i know that crystal gayle can make a grown man cry, but you are not from georgia ......... i would understand your dark mood if it had been the sabri brothers wailing about medina ........ peenay walo chalo, beyaban mein bahar aye hai .........ah ha !.......... gumbad-i-sabz par rehmat ki ghata ...........

mullah urstruly: shut up you fat kafir shaitan ..........sharam nahin aati – comparing medina to georgia and the love of our prophet - peace be upon him – with lust for some yokel in alabama .......... you know i hate it when brown people try to act white ............ who the heck is crystal gayle – yo mama ?

sage : no!.... you mama !........bhai meray, mat hi poocho, she had a face to die for and long dark hair would make you forget the seventy buxom houris that are neither here nor there ..........and, by the way, it is georgia and not alabama .........

mullah urstruly: it is all the same – this country stinks and if i had the gonads, or a million dollars in the bank, or a nickle’s worth of self respect, I would leave tomorrow ............ all their women are whores and the men are pimps who would sell their own mother for a gin and coke ..............

sage: mulla ji, you should get out of flint more often – even michael moore left this hell hole ................ and it is gin and tonic.............. gin and coke sounds disgusting and I don’t think it is a legitimate drink..........although, on second thought, I think it is rather bourgeois to make up silly rules like that ...... if a man wants to drink gin with coke, he should be able to ....... how much respect can you get for a nickel and why do you need a million – how about half a million ?

mullah urstruly: goddam these bastards !................ they have me trapped – my mortgage is half a million and i still owe on the cadillac and the big screen tv and the new granite tops in the kitchen and the riding lawn mower and ..........they are illegitimate bastards – most of them don’t even have a father as their lesbian mothers got their eggs impregnated in a Petri dish ..........

sage: i hope you didn’t give at the fertility clinic during last ramadhan – you don’t want your aulad running with the infidel, do you ?

mullah urstruly: oh, shut up .......you know that in-vitro is haram in islam and besides, I wouldn’t give these people the time of the day ........... they are killing our brothers and sisters in iraq and afghanistan and wana

sage: ( taking another sip and letting out a deep sigh) : wana ?....... i thought that moslems were killing other moslems in wana ..........and what is with this sister business – if every moslem woman is your sister then how do you get laid ?

mullah urstruly : nonsense !...... musharraf, the illegitimate son of nehru, , is an agent of these people – the zionists and ahmedis - and he is killing us .........and a sister is only a sister until she is not a sister – samjhay ?

sage: no, not really, but is musharrraf nehru’s son ? ......... another gin and tonic, and give my friend another shirley temple

mullah urstruly: ...... he was born in delhi, wasn’t he ? ……and just look at him, he has that peaked and hungry hindoo look – no noor on his face like a true momins’s ...........are you sure there is nothing in this drink – i wouldn’t put it past you to try and slip me that poison .....


sage: mullah ji, i don’t understand what you have against drinking and women ........ if the holy book promises you wine and houris in jannah – why can’t we have it here ? ........and what is that big black mark on your forhead – someone hit you with a two by four ?

mullah urstruly : jahil !....... it is the mark of a pious man who spends his life with his head bowed before his maker ..........

sage: but you do realize that at the same time, your butt is pointed at him too ?

mullah urstruly: la holay wala quwat ..........

sage: but really, how much self respect can you get for a nickel ?

mullah urstruly: look, stop messing with my head – it is bad enough working for the white man designing motor mount brackets for the hummer and paying taxes .......

sage (slurring) : but at least you don’t pay the jizzaya surcharge

mullah urstruly (smiling) : thank god for small blessings .......... hey, you know i refinanced at a fixed 4.75 % rate – what a deal !

sage (slurring more): but i thought interest was haram ?

mullah urstruly (animated) : it is only haram when doing business with other muslims – if these foolish infidels want to throw away their money, we must help them ........bastards !

sage (slurring even more) : this is a great country , isn’t it?....... you remember your blonde girlfriend from saginaw – now that was some babe !

mullah urstruly (agitated): astagfirullah !......... praise be to allah, those days are behind me – i have seen the folly of my ways ........

sage (spilling his glass on the table) : but are you getting laid ? ...........

mullah urstruly: imbecile !......... masihi choohay !

sage (gets up to go to the john and stumbles ): christian rat ? ......... i thought hindoos worshiped rats – i saw it on the discovery channel .......but then some hindoos eat rats ......talk about being confused - those guys are really messed up !

mullah urstruly : i thought the horrible hindoos are your friends ..........

sage (reaching out to hug the mullah) : everyone is my friend, but all my friends are fucked up .......... i love you .........

mullah urstruly (wiping a tear from his eye) : i love you too ............ and inshallah we will go out and do dawa together this sunday .............

sage ( looking at two corn-fed heifers in tight jeans ) : why wait till sunday – we should go and talk to those sisters over there – they would look cute in hijabs and god knows they should cover up in extra large abayas .............

mullah urstruly (with a twinkle in his eye): gumbad-i-sabz per, rehmat ki ghata chayee hai; peenay walo chalo, beyaban mein bahar ayee hai ........... allah allah, ghulaman-i-muhammad key leya, sehra mein bahar uttar aye hai ............

sage (with his arm around the mullah’s shoulders) :
melodies bring memories
that linger in my heart
make me think of georgia
why did we ever part?
some sweet day when blossoms fall
and all the world`s a song ..........
i`ll go back to georgia
`cause that`s where I belong



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#52 Posted by Ahmadzai on February 14, 2006 10:20:12 am
James:

I think Kulharee’s Kobe Bryant should be compared with Steffi Graff, Boris Becker, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Beckenbaur, etc.

Also, imho, Kulharee is only good for discussing thrash metal music. Generally, he is upset with the world. Hence, his aggressive attitude. I would ignore him for any non-music discussion.

:-)
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#51 Posted by arjun_m on February 14, 2006 10:15:07 am
#49 by jamesmaxwell on February 14, 2006 8:25am PT


So Pakistani Muslims are burning their own cities to protest caricatures of Muhammed in a Danish newspaper!


They`re protesting the depiction of ol`mo as a violent nut..that`s like a million irony points..
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#50 Posted by Ajeet on February 14, 2006 9:47:37 am
Re # 48

I hope the Dunkin Donuts suvived.

Manto let us know it is so.
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#49 Posted by Jamesmaxwell on February 14, 2006 8:25:32 am
Re: # 48
Thanks for the (unsolicited) advice. I get news from all sources and make up my own mind.

So Pakistani Muslims are burning their own cities to protest caricatures of Muhammed in a Danish newspaper! If there was a Nobel Prize for idiocy, Muslims would win it hands down!

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#48 Posted by Kulharee on February 14, 2006 8:05:45 am
T Saab.. just a few minutes ago, Lahoris in their unmatched love of the Prophet Mohammad Salamwalam, etc. burnt down KFC, Pizza Huts, Holiday Inn, and anything remotely “American”, and American newspapers didn’t even print the cartoons. What do you have to say to that? What do you think that Americans should do?

What Europeans need is a couple more riots of the French magnitude, a few more trains bombings, some more killings (excuse me, slaying) of the Artists, some more cartoons. They are on the right track. Europe is the asshole of humanity, with its capital in Brussels.

James, I admire your not feeling the need to prove your loyalty to your whatever country and it will be equally appreciated if you didn’t read Eurotrash to learn about the United States. Watch Fox news. It’s the best.

Auf Wiedersehen
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#47 Posted by tahmed32 on February 14, 2006 7:22:39 am
actually, europe is now lagging behind the US bigtime - the per capta income is 25% below the US, and falling.

the big question is: why is the US on the upswing while europe and japan, the traditional rich countries, are on the downswing?

Kulharee knows everything - so kulharee what is the reason?? 300 million europeans are waiting for your answer.
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#46 Posted by Jamesmaxwell on February 14, 2006 7:21:05 am
Re: # 43
Seeing some of your posts here, I have no doubt you can crank it up several notches, not just one notch. In any case, I think this is a futile debate. If you love America and believe in the American dream, good luck to you. As for me, I have never felt the need to prove my loyalty to my country to anyone. (By the way, I am not German).
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#45 Posted by tahmed32 on February 14, 2006 7:15:52 am
aslam: i guess the boys from jhelum care more about jobs then about political correctness. :-)
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