Rakesh Mani February 12, 2006
#100 Posted by swarrier on February 15, 2006 1:39:07 pm
Re: # 96
Of course. Invaders did it. Some village idiot said so recently in some post not so long ago. Or was it a savant? And Urdu is a Deccani language or was it invented in Arabia.....-) Don`t go too far to have fun....
Of course. Invaders did it. Some village idiot said so recently in some post not so long ago. Or was it a savant? And Urdu is a Deccani language or was it invented in Arabia.....-) Don`t go too far to have fun....
#99 Posted by shishapa on February 15, 2006 1:38:58 pm
Re: # 96
My knowledge of Rugveda has become rusty but I think there is a sholk in proto Rugved
that was composed on the banks of river Sarasvati (before it dried up) by sage Vasisth,
(the Pouresheya part in Apouresheya Veds) something like this
Hindavya Jaat Sarvaa
(Hindus went everywhere)
So there, Hindu is not a word invented by Invaders, rather foreigners, it is indigenous.
And I say foreigners and not invaders because Persians at that time did not invade India
(or Sindhia or Hindia whatever you want to call it) and even if they did, they were
not foreigners, but cousins and we do not fault cousins for pronouncing s as h.
Indians did not object when they changed Sapta to Hafta, Asura to Ahura, did they?
There, you have it.
#98 Posted by mohar11 on February 15, 2006 1:36:31 pm
Re: # 89 hassan
[...I am a Pakistani and I can tell Muslims don`t have an identity crisis....]
Muslims may not have an identity crisis, but the identity ``pakistani`` has been in a crisis from the beginning... at least that`s what we have been hearing from pakis themselves....
[...I am a Pakistani and I can tell Muslims don`t have an identity crisis....]
Muslims may not have an identity crisis, but the identity ``pakistani`` has been in a crisis from the beginning... at least that`s what we have been hearing from pakis themselves....
#97 Posted by muqaddam on February 15, 2006 1:35:04 pm
The first name derisively coined for the Indian commercial film industry was Follywood, most films were then associated with follies. In the word Bollywood that later came into usage, the B stood for Bombay and therefrom Lollywood in which L came from Lahore.
The word Hindoo was used by the goras to refer to natives of the Indian subcontinent. They did not use Indian because that description was reserved for the natives of America. Although in most countries people from India are now refered to as Indians, yet the word Hindoo is still prevalent in Western societies.
Recently I heard an East European telling me that when he was stationed in India his driver wsa a Muslim Hindoo. Now that should sound really odd, but he was actually refering to him as an Indian Muslim.
The word Hindoo was used by the goras to refer to natives of the Indian subcontinent. They did not use Indian because that description was reserved for the natives of America. Although in most countries people from India are now refered to as Indians, yet the word Hindoo is still prevalent in Western societies.
Recently I heard an East European telling me that when he was stationed in India his driver wsa a Muslim Hindoo. Now that should sound really odd, but he was actually refering to him as an Indian Muslim.
#96 Posted by HP on February 15, 2006 1:21:30 pm
#95,
Okay Jang....
Just admit it and move on ... Hindus are hindu because invaders said so. That is all there is to it.
..But I need more fun... Okay I will pick on asadi now!
#95 Posted by jang on February 15, 2006 1:10:35 pm
HP sain..stop scaring us ;-)
..we like being indoos (as distinct from being pakis)..dont mind if someone else gave us the name, but now everyone knows who are indoos, there is no identity crisis..unless you keep at it.
..we like being indoos (as distinct from being pakis)..dont mind if someone else gave us the name, but now everyone knows who are indoos, there is no identity crisis..unless you keep at it.
#94 Posted by amansandhu on February 15, 2006 12:59:07 pm
Hasanmahmood,
The word Bollywood was coined by Shoba De when she was the editor of Stardust magazine. mosy Indians dont like the word but it has stuck because its easier to say than Indian film industry. by the way Pak also now uses Lollywood. if Indian are always imitating the west [ your believe ] than Pakistanis are always aping India.
Kaurasach, there is a diff between desi and desh. Indians will say mera desh refering to India, but not desi when refering to each other except maybe in n.america.
The word Bollywood was coined by Shoba De when she was the editor of Stardust magazine. mosy Indians dont like the word but it has stuck because its easier to say than Indian film industry. by the way Pak also now uses Lollywood. if Indian are always imitating the west [ your believe ] than Pakistanis are always aping India.
Kaurasach, there is a diff between desi and desh. Indians will say mera desh refering to India, but not desi when refering to each other except maybe in n.america.
#93 Posted by HP on February 15, 2006 12:49:50 pm
#84, 86, 87, 88
That really burned up some behinds big time.
I knew the whole tribe of nincompoops is going to jump up to defend the ``dear old no name religion`` named by afghan as Hindu.
“The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma....”
Village idiots will always come up with some idiotic explanation.
That is stupid Santana Dharma just means eternal religion.
“Santana Dharma is not circumscribed by the confines of a single country. It does not belong, peculiarly and for ever, to a bounded part of the world. It is a universal religion which embraces all other religions as it is eternal and everlasting. A narrow scheme of sectarian or exclusive religion can live only for a limited time and for a set purpose. At last it has to go away .one day but not so with the Santana Dharma.
Santana Dharma has no beginning. No body can say when it started. It is without a beginning and so without an end. It is eternal and everlasting. That which has a beginning, has also an end, as all beginnings have an end also. “
“Hindu is a word of recent origin. It has not at all been mentioned in the Vedas or other authoritative scriptures. The word is not even Indian in origin.”
#84
“Yes the I is supposed to stand for Iran.”
Idiots just keep coming in different colors.
There is no “I” in Pakistan…..Pakistan is in URDU “I” only comes in when you write that in English. That’s why I say these idiots have no knowledge of history and Google does not make anyone brilliant.
P=pay, A=alif, K=Kaaf and stan for Balochistan.
“It`s a corruption of Sindhu.”
Ghaday! Whether it’s a corruption of Sindhu or any other word, it is not Indian. It was given by invaders afghan or Persian whatever.
And who cares where ``stan`` came from it is not a religion....
That really burned up some behinds big time.
I knew the whole tribe of nincompoops is going to jump up to defend the ``dear old no name religion`` named by afghan as Hindu.
“The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma....”
Village idiots will always come up with some idiotic explanation.
That is stupid Santana Dharma just means eternal religion.
“Santana Dharma is not circumscribed by the confines of a single country. It does not belong, peculiarly and for ever, to a bounded part of the world. It is a universal religion which embraces all other religions as it is eternal and everlasting. A narrow scheme of sectarian or exclusive religion can live only for a limited time and for a set purpose. At last it has to go away .one day but not so with the Santana Dharma.
Santana Dharma has no beginning. No body can say when it started. It is without a beginning and so without an end. It is eternal and everlasting. That which has a beginning, has also an end, as all beginnings have an end also. “
“Hindu is a word of recent origin. It has not at all been mentioned in the Vedas or other authoritative scriptures. The word is not even Indian in origin.”
#84
“Yes the I is supposed to stand for Iran.”
Idiots just keep coming in different colors.
There is no “I” in Pakistan…..Pakistan is in URDU “I” only comes in when you write that in English. That’s why I say these idiots have no knowledge of history and Google does not make anyone brilliant.
P=pay, A=alif, K=Kaaf and stan for Balochistan.
“It`s a corruption of Sindhu.”
Ghaday! Whether it’s a corruption of Sindhu or any other word, it is not Indian. It was given by invaders afghan or Persian whatever.
And who cares where ``stan`` came from it is not a religion....
#92 Posted by HasanMahmood on February 15, 2006 12:40:19 pm
Re: # 23
Ask a Pakistani what he thinks of as Punjabi and you will get a hateful response. As a Pakistani I can tell you there is a lot of racism in Pakistan and anyone who says otherwise is absolutely 100% wrong. But hey we might be the camel jockeys or whatever but we still dont smell of spices :)
Ask a Pakistani what he thinks of as Punjabi and you will get a hateful response. As a Pakistani I can tell you there is a lot of racism in Pakistan and anyone who says otherwise is absolutely 100% wrong. But hey we might be the camel jockeys or whatever but we still dont smell of spices :)
#91 Posted by HasanMahmood on February 15, 2006 12:35:58 pm
Re: # 88
lol you really think that the culture is rich and diverse. No sir this culture is made into this mystic choo chhoo kaa murabba by the so called Western geniuses who love to sit and do the mantra all the time. This culture was not rich. Hindus were always ruled by other people and they always will be. You really think you are not that suservient then look at your media. Everything you do shows the whole world that you guys just wanna follow the goras. Does the term ``Bollywood`` ring a bell. Maybe hindus came up with it and the word ``Hollywood`` came later :). Truth is you guys will always try to be like the people who ruled you. Because you hate Muslims you chose goras to imitate. Dont worry. We all know that if Muslims were ruling most of the world you would be imitating them. ``Thousand Apologies`` from a Pakistani Muslim - :)
lol you really think that the culture is rich and diverse. No sir this culture is made into this mystic choo chhoo kaa murabba by the so called Western geniuses who love to sit and do the mantra all the time. This culture was not rich. Hindus were always ruled by other people and they always will be. You really think you are not that suservient then look at your media. Everything you do shows the whole world that you guys just wanna follow the goras. Does the term ``Bollywood`` ring a bell. Maybe hindus came up with it and the word ``Hollywood`` came later :). Truth is you guys will always try to be like the people who ruled you. Because you hate Muslims you chose goras to imitate. Dont worry. We all know that if Muslims were ruling most of the world you would be imitating them. ``Thousand Apologies`` from a Pakistani Muslim - :)
#90 Posted by HasanMahmood on February 15, 2006 12:31:28 pm
Re: # 87
Actually yes. Being called a hindu is the worst insult. Can you think of anything worse than being called someone who smells of spices all the time. I mean c`mon Indians; at least look around you when you are walking in a public place. Other people`s expressions will give you some clues...
Actually yes. Being called a hindu is the worst insult. Can you think of anything worse than being called someone who smells of spices all the time. I mean c`mon Indians; at least look around you when you are walking in a public place. Other people`s expressions will give you some clues...
#89 Posted by HasanMahmood on February 15, 2006 12:28:59 pm
Re: # 86
Well I am neither an idiot not a Bharatiya. I am a Pakistani and I can tell Muslims don`t have an identity crisis. The whole world knows that Hindus have that problem. ``Thousand Apologies`` must be ringing a bell to you; or do you want me to point out your love affair with the West and how you guys always tend to emulate the worst of the West. Calm down dude. Are you trying toi prove to the world that Hindus are better? Lol
Well I am neither an idiot not a Bharatiya. I am a Pakistani and I can tell Muslims don`t have an identity crisis. The whole world knows that Hindus have that problem. ``Thousand Apologies`` must be ringing a bell to you; or do you want me to point out your love affair with the West and how you guys always tend to emulate the worst of the West. Calm down dude. Are you trying toi prove to the world that Hindus are better? Lol
#88 Posted by mohar11 on February 15, 2006 12:18:20 pm
Re: # 84 sw
HP is a known jack-a$$ and considering the paki brigrade here - that`s saying something.....
The rich and diverse Indian/Hindu/Buddhist civilization spans thousands of years and was also prevalent in the areas that is present-day Afganistan and Pakistan.....So to think that indians/hindus didn`t have an identity before the invaders came in is sheer stupidity.... but then - that`s how madrassa education works.....
HP is a known jack-a$$ and considering the paki brigrade here - that`s saying something.....
The rich and diverse Indian/Hindu/Buddhist civilization spans thousands of years and was also prevalent in the areas that is present-day Afganistan and Pakistan.....So to think that indians/hindus didn`t have an identity before the invaders came in is sheer stupidity.... but then - that`s how madrassa education works.....
#87 Posted by mohar11 on February 15, 2006 12:04:16 pm
kaura
[....Pathans/Afghans call Paki Punjabis ``Hindus``....]
That must be really galling to pakis - being called a ``hindu`` is supposed to be the worst insult to a paki..... I mean - look at this guy HP - he is already burning up his a$$ :))......
[....Pathans/Afghans call Paki Punjabis ``Hindus``....]
That must be really galling to pakis - being called a ``hindu`` is supposed to be the worst insult to a paki..... I mean - look at this guy HP - he is already burning up his a$$ :))......
#86 Posted by mohar11 on February 15, 2006 12:01:46 pm
HP
[....What would have been the name for the religion now called Hindu?...]
The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma.... that identity has always been there - with or without the invader-given name.... Similarly, The Indian subcontinent has always been known as Bharat and the people as Bharatiyas....
Either way - indians do NOT have an identity crisis regarding who they are and where they belong and where they are going.... And coming from a paki - that`s really rich :))
Are you stupid or just a paki?.....
[....What would have been the name for the religion now called Hindu?...]
The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma.... that identity has always been there - with or without the invader-given name.... Similarly, The Indian subcontinent has always been known as Bharat and the people as Bharatiyas....
Either way - indians do NOT have an identity crisis regarding who they are and where they belong and where they are going.... And coming from a paki - that`s really rich :))
Are you stupid or just a paki?.....
#85 Posted by jang on February 15, 2006 12:00:13 pm
#83 many forts were built on top of pre-existing forts..so elephants etc is not a big deal.
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