Are We The Most Racist Of Them All?

indians love to stereotype because in india distinct identities are fiercely maintained.

punjabis will be loud and madrasis will eat with their entire hand. biharis/poorbhaiyyas will be crude ganwar (my panwala would always express a sentiment ``hi re garmi`` and fan his dhoti whenever a female passes by) and gujjus somehow are always in proximity to khaman dhokla.

and its like a fractal, in each larger nationality, there are sub-nationlities..e.g. tamil brahmins have sterotypical characteristics for iyers and iyengars..harimau and sridhars are expert on this but rarely bring it out ;-).. and ghatis talk of konkan brahmins as being cheap..

i however dont see anything negative in this..its all fun. no melting pot here..every flavor is distincly maintained in this khichadi.

re: jang # 81

Exactly. My prejudice of the day: One shouldn`t easily trust people who claim to harbor no prejudices at all. :)

“Pathans/Afghans call Paki Punjabis ``Hindus``....”

Indian knowledge of their culture and history is just flabbergasting.

Historically, the afghan called everyone East of River Indus, Hindu. Hindus are Hindu because afghan said so some thousand years ago before that Hindus had no idea what they were.
This is a major tragedy for a culture or even a religion that it is defined by the invaders.

What if Afghans had not called Indians, Hindu…What would have been the name for the religion now called Hindu?
Can someone take a guess?


I heard that now they are claiming that Hindu is a Sanskrit word, a compound word to hoot. The identity crisis in Hindus is so acute that some Hindu after claiming that Taj Mahal was actually a mandir, are now claiming that Red Fort was built by some Hindu raja too. The evidence is in couple of elephant statues guarding the gates and kaalchakra in some arch.

Re: # 83

You should be flabbergasted you know....
The Sanskrit word is Sindhu. The word Hind came from the Persians. It`s a corruption of Sindhu. The Sindhu to you now is the river Indus. And if you are so worried about etymological issues the word Pakistan has part of its origins in Sanskrit. ``Stan`` comes from the Sanskrit ``Sthana`` meaning place. It also is also related to the English stance, stand and the Latin stare..
And don`t give me that stupid explanation by Chowdhury Rehmat Ali about it being the initial letters of Punjab Afghania ...etc etc. I don`t think the Iranians would like it very much. Yes the I is supposed to stand for Iran.

And if some poor lisping Persians unable to form the word Sindhu and had not confused it with Hindu we would we have been nameless irreligous people.? Unfortunately it wouldn`t have been so good. -) Pity.

Officially in Sanskrit the Dharma would have been called Sanatana Dharma or Vaidika Dharma perhaps. Now that would have been a mouthful for some people.

By the way the most common usage of the word Afghan is dated after 928 AD. The origins of the word are murky but there is one version that seems to say that it comes from the Sanskrit word Avagana at it was used by the Indian Astronomer Varamahira in the 6th century (check the Encyclopedia Britannica). Similarly the word Pathan seems to come from either the Persian word Parsava or the Sanskrit word Prathisthana.
Now is the boot on the other foot?

#83 many forts were built on top of pre-existing forts..so elephants etc is not a big deal.

HP
[....What would have been the name for the religion now called Hindu?...]

The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma.... that identity has always been there - with or without the invader-given name.... Similarly, The Indian subcontinent has always been known as Bharat and the people as Bharatiyas....

Either way - indians do NOT have an identity crisis regarding who they are and where they belong and where they are going.... And coming from a paki - that`s really rich :))

Are you stupid or just a paki?.....

kaura
[....Pathans/Afghans call Paki Punjabis ``Hindus``....]

That must be really galling to pakis - being called a ``hindu`` is supposed to be the worst insult to a paki..... I mean - look at this guy HP - he is already burning up his a$$ :))......

Re: # 84 sw

HP is a known jack-a$$ and considering the paki brigrade here - that`s saying something.....

The rich and diverse Indian/Hindu/Buddhist civilization spans thousands of years and was also prevalent in the areas that is present-day Afganistan and Pakistan.....So to think that indians/hindus didn`t have an identity before the invaders came in is sheer stupidity.... but then - that`s how madrassa education works.....

Re: # 86
Well I am neither an idiot not a Bharatiya. I am a Pakistani and I can tell Muslims don`t have an identity crisis. The whole world knows that Hindus have that problem. ``Thousand Apologies`` must be ringing a bell to you; or do you want me to point out your love affair with the West and how you guys always tend to emulate the worst of the West. Calm down dude. Are you trying toi prove to the world that Hindus are better? Lol

Re: # 87
Actually yes. Being called a hindu is the worst insult. Can you think of anything worse than being called someone who smells of spices all the time. I mean c`mon Indians; at least look around you when you are walking in a public place. Other people`s expressions will give you some clues...

Re: # 88
lol you really think that the culture is rich and diverse. No sir this culture is made into this mystic choo chhoo kaa murabba by the so called Western geniuses who love to sit and do the mantra all the time. This culture was not rich. Hindus were always ruled by other people and they always will be. You really think you are not that suservient then look at your media. Everything you do shows the whole world that you guys just wanna follow the goras. Does the term ``Bollywood`` ring a bell. Maybe hindus came up with it and the word ``Hollywood`` came later :). Truth is you guys will always try to be like the people who ruled you. Because you hate Muslims you chose goras to imitate. Dont worry. We all know that if Muslims were ruling most of the world you would be imitating them. ``Thousand Apologies`` from a Pakistani Muslim - :)

Re: # 23
Ask a Pakistani what he thinks of as Punjabi and you will get a hateful response. As a Pakistani I can tell you there is a lot of racism in Pakistan and anyone who says otherwise is absolutely 100% wrong. But hey we might be the camel jockeys or whatever but we still dont smell of spices :)

#84, 86, 87, 88

That really burned up some behinds big time.

I knew the whole tribe of nincompoops is going to jump up to defend the ``dear old no name religion`` named by afghan as Hindu.

“The religion is also known as Sanatan Dharma....”

Village idiots will always come up with some idiotic explanation.

That is stupid Santana Dharma just means eternal religion.

“Santana Dharma is not circumscribed by the confines of a single country. It does not belong, peculiarly and for ever, to a bounded part of the world. It is a universal religion which embraces all other religions as it is eternal and everlasting. A narrow scheme of sectarian or exclusive religion can live only for a limited time and for a set purpose. At last it has to go away .one day but not so with the Santana Dharma.
Santana Dharma has no beginning. No body can say when it started. It is without a beginning and so without an end. It is eternal and everlasting. That which has a beginning, has also an end, as all beginnings have an end also. “

“Hindu is a word of recent origin. It has not at all been mentioned in the Vedas or other authoritative scriptures. The word is not even Indian in origin.”

#84
“Yes the I is supposed to stand for Iran.”

Idiots just keep coming in different colors.

There is no “I” in Pakistan…..Pakistan is in URDU “I” only comes in when you write that in English. That’s why I say these idiots have no knowledge of history and Google does not make anyone brilliant.

P=pay, A=alif, K=Kaaf and stan for Balochistan.

“It`s a corruption of Sindhu.”

Ghaday! Whether it’s a corruption of Sindhu or any other word, it is not Indian. It was given by invaders afghan or Persian whatever.

And who cares where ``stan`` came from it is not a religion....

Hasanmahmood,
The word Bollywood was coined by Shoba De when she was the editor of Stardust magazine. mosy Indians dont like the word but it has stuck because its easier to say than Indian film industry. by the way Pak also now uses Lollywood. if Indian are always imitating the west [ your believe ] than Pakistanis are always aping India.

Kaurasach, there is a diff between desi and desh. Indians will say mera desh refering to India, but not desi when refering to each other except maybe in n.america.

HP sain..stop scaring us ;-)

..we like being indoos (as distinct from being pakis)..dont mind if someone else gave us the name, but now everyone knows who are indoos, there is no identity crisis..unless you keep at it.

#95,
Okay Jang....

Just admit it and move on ... Hindus are hindu because invaders said so. That is all there is to it.

..But I need more fun... Okay I will pick on asadi now!