Bina Shah March 2, 2006
#31 Posted by ZahraJ on March 3, 2006 3:18:24 pm
Continuation of my previous thought:
I hope you can see what is happening here.
I hope you can see what is happening here.
#30 Posted by ZahraJ on March 3, 2006 3:14:02 pm
Masadi:
I disgaree with your analogies. I just recently came across the following disappointing news clip.
http://photos.imageevent.com/arif1956/talibanatyale/FOODE%20_Feb%2028_%20002.wmv
I disgaree with your analogies. I just recently came across the following disappointing news clip.
http://photos.imageevent.com/arif1956/talibanatyale/FOODE%20_Feb%2028_%20002.wmv
#29 Posted by masadi on March 3, 2006 9:29:54 am
#28, it`s the same thing with the higher terrorists, Bush doesn`t go to fight his own wars either, neither do the American elite.
#28 Posted by zeemax on March 3, 2006 9:05:21 am
#26 by Kulharee
I will change my views about this whole thing the day I see a big time Molvi blow himself up
This has a ring of truth. When Taliban fell, Maulana Samiul-Haq was the first to arrive back in Quetta leaving hundreds of his volunteers on a limb at the mercy of Northern Alliance, many of whom were butchered.
I will change my views about this whole thing the day I see a big time Molvi blow himself up
This has a ring of truth. When Taliban fell, Maulana Samiul-Haq was the first to arrive back in Quetta leaving hundreds of his volunteers on a limb at the mercy of Northern Alliance, many of whom were butchered.
#27 Posted by masadi on March 3, 2006 8:19:06 am
#26 Kulharee writes <<< The main cause (and you will agree to it) is the Quran thumping hate mongering hate spewing Mullahs who decoy young emotionally venerable boys with a promise of Virgins in the paradise. Now, have you ever seen a Mulla blow himself up? >>>
The maulvi plays the role of a catalyst not the cause. Promises of ``virgins in paradise`` would not produce the result you refer to if the social environment was different, and you can guage the difference in the frequency of suicide bombings in various societies independent of the Mullah`s promises. If you got an education, use it, don`t arrive at dumb rhetorical conclusions based on official US myths in this fashion.
Then you write <<< sincerely hope that some of you are saddened by the horrific deaths of the innocent in Karachi bombing. >>>
You certainly are not otherwise you wouldn`t blindly support the higher terrorists that help create the environment in which these things fluorish. Let us hear you condemn the US civilian bombings of Iraq in which tens of thousand more than the Karachi incident have been killed to date, and get killed everyday. Why are you silent there? You`ve sold your soul for a few $$, bowing to your US masters. Remove the blinders from your eyes and you`ll see what really is going on.
The maulvi plays the role of a catalyst not the cause. Promises of ``virgins in paradise`` would not produce the result you refer to if the social environment was different, and you can guage the difference in the frequency of suicide bombings in various societies independent of the Mullah`s promises. If you got an education, use it, don`t arrive at dumb rhetorical conclusions based on official US myths in this fashion.
Then you write <<< sincerely hope that some of you are saddened by the horrific deaths of the innocent in Karachi bombing. >>>
You certainly are not otherwise you wouldn`t blindly support the higher terrorists that help create the environment in which these things fluorish. Let us hear you condemn the US civilian bombings of Iraq in which tens of thousand more than the Karachi incident have been killed to date, and get killed everyday. Why are you silent there? You`ve sold your soul for a few $$, bowing to your US masters. Remove the blinders from your eyes and you`ll see what really is going on.
#26 Posted by Kulharee on March 3, 2006 6:17:15 am
Asadi Sahib, here, let me tell you the “Causes” as I empathize with them. The main cause (and you will agree to it) is the Quran thumping hate mongering hate spewing Mullahs who decoy young emotionally venerable boys with a promise of Virgins in the paradise. Now, have you ever seen a Mulla blow himself up? Or have his kids blow themselves up? When young Pakistani boys were being killed in action during the Taliban wars, Mr. Bin Laden was officiating his boy’s marriage to some other Mullah’s daughter. So you see, who the real bastards are? Some of them have galls to live in the big bad west.
I will change my views about this whole thing the day I see a big time Molvi blow himself up in a suicide attack. Help me convert.
I sincerely hope that some of you are saddened by the horrific deaths of the innocent in Karachi bombing.
I will change my views about this whole thing the day I see a big time Molvi blow himself up in a suicide attack. Help me convert.
I sincerely hope that some of you are saddened by the horrific deaths of the innocent in Karachi bombing.
#25 Posted by masadi on March 3, 2006 12:08:54 am
#23, <<< In the meantime, we have other things to worry about >>>
What he is saying, and the blame he is implying (which is my concern), has implications beyond his personal judgment by God (which is not my concern). Thank you for absolving him of all wrong, I`m sure he appreciates the support.
What he is saying, and the blame he is implying (which is my concern), has implications beyond his personal judgment by God (which is not my concern). Thank you for absolving him of all wrong, I`m sure he appreciates the support.
#24 Posted by zeemax on March 2, 2006 9:31:01 pm
#20 by bjkumar
Well said BJ.
``Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.`` - General MacArthur.
Maybe now an intellectual like Pol Pot is needed in these parts .
Well said BJ.
``Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.`` - General MacArthur.
Maybe now an intellectual like Pol Pot is needed in these parts .
#23 Posted by ZahraJ on March 2, 2006 8:50:34 pm
Re: # 21
Thank you for your clarification. I am sure God will hold Brother Kulharee accountable for his good and bad deeds. In the meantime, we have other things to worry about in Bina`s write-up. Let`s refocus. Thanks.
Thank you for your clarification. I am sure God will hold Brother Kulharee accountable for his good and bad deeds. In the meantime, we have other things to worry about in Bina`s write-up. Let`s refocus. Thanks.
#21 Posted by masadi on March 2, 2006 8:25:47 pm
#19, #4`s (Kulharee`s) purpose WA not to empathise. His purpose was not to miss any opportunity to mock Islam, thereby revealing that he is a total dimwit, retard, who does not have any grasp of the situation or the issues describing the events.
#20 Posted by bjkumar on March 2, 2006 8:17:27 pm
A highly moving eyewitness (or perhaps more accurately, earwitness) account!
The khakis got the guns, the Mullahs clutch that Book, and the Jihadis got the explosives. Somewhere in there, struggling for survival with little more than a pen is the intelligentsia.
All of u, please b careful! We need u!
#18 Posted by teshah on March 2, 2006 5:55:55 pm
They are talking in Dehli only about nukes and are worried about proliferation of nuclear technology when trucks full of devastating explosives are roaming in the streats!
Bush says bombs cannot stop his going to Pakistan.
Certainly; bombs and Bush go together.
How Allama Iqbal had protrayed this:
``Laakh hakeem sar bajeib ek kaleem sar bakaf``
Bush says bombs cannot stop his going to Pakistan.
Certainly; bombs and Bush go together.
How Allama Iqbal had protrayed this:
``Laakh hakeem sar bajeib ek kaleem sar bakaf``
#17 Posted by masadi on March 2, 2006 5:36:08 pm
#16, the DF writes, <<< Thank goodness masadi is here to explain everything !!
So, here is the explanation:
(1) blah blah blah
(2) blah blah blah
(3) blah blah blah
(3) blah blah blah (after 3 comes 4 DF)
(4) blah blah blah
>>>
In all the blah blah blah he conveniently forgets that in #15, I am referring to the US invasion of Iraq and not to 1,2,3,3,4 blah blah blah. Now I can deal with those blah,blah, blahs that are there for distraction purposes just by pointing to the world that emerged post world war 2, in that world and the position of the US elite within in, causation can more easily be located than in any ideology or Islamic book or Hindu book. It is very easy to detach facts from their roots and institutional context and by extension the world context and then do blah blah blah without understanding anything to distract from what the truth is. Take the example of Saudi Arabia, and the other nation states that the colonials constructed there to maintain their stronghold. The lives of the people there have hovered around strengthened dictatorships, strengthened by the US elite ofcourse by use of one tiny base in there, Israel. That ensures that there will never be peace for the masses in the middle east, dictatorships and the rape of thier resources by the west will continue and the effects of that we see in the form of distorted Islam and petty terrorism. Go visit and live in a US ghetto and you will see different people, different ideologies but a near similar phenomenon. Yes, the US is responsible.
So, here is the explanation:
(1) blah blah blah
(2) blah blah blah
(3) blah blah blah
(3) blah blah blah (after 3 comes 4 DF)
(4) blah blah blah
>>>
In all the blah blah blah he conveniently forgets that in #15, I am referring to the US invasion of Iraq and not to 1,2,3,3,4 blah blah blah. Now I can deal with those blah,blah, blahs that are there for distraction purposes just by pointing to the world that emerged post world war 2, in that world and the position of the US elite within in, causation can more easily be located than in any ideology or Islamic book or Hindu book. It is very easy to detach facts from their roots and institutional context and by extension the world context and then do blah blah blah without understanding anything to distract from what the truth is. Take the example of Saudi Arabia, and the other nation states that the colonials constructed there to maintain their stronghold. The lives of the people there have hovered around strengthened dictatorships, strengthened by the US elite ofcourse by use of one tiny base in there, Israel. That ensures that there will never be peace for the masses in the middle east, dictatorships and the rape of thier resources by the west will continue and the effects of that we see in the form of distorted Islam and petty terrorism. Go visit and live in a US ghetto and you will see different people, different ideologies but a near similar phenomenon. Yes, the US is responsible.
#16 Posted by pmishra2 on March 2, 2006 4:50:14 pm
Thank goodness masadi is here to explain everything !!
So, here is the explanation:
(1) Iran - Iraq war: 1 million dead. This is entirely due to the current US president. He confused the noble minds of muslims and they began to kill each other.
(2) Bangladesh: 1 million dead. 100% due to USA and George Bush.
(3) Stalin: entirely created by USA. 30 million russians killed. US army was involved.
(3) Mao: 10 million dead chinese. And the reason? You got it: George W. Bush!!
(4) Saudis have spent $10Billion plus in spreading wahhabi poison across the globe. Whole societies have been destroyed by it. Whose fault: George Bush.
Fortunately, a few decent societies remain. In Saudi Arabia, China, Vietnam and Cuba, people of all different religions and cultures live peacefully. The sound of azaan coexists with the hindu temple bells; the sound of ave maria with buddham sharnam gachhami. This is where freedom and multi-culturalism reigns supreme.
oooops, wait a minute. I got confused. I meant Chicago, arre yeh kya hua?
Masadi-ji, please help us!!
So, here is the explanation:
(1) Iran - Iraq war: 1 million dead. This is entirely due to the current US president. He confused the noble minds of muslims and they began to kill each other.
(2) Bangladesh: 1 million dead. 100% due to USA and George Bush.
(3) Stalin: entirely created by USA. 30 million russians killed. US army was involved.
(3) Mao: 10 million dead chinese. And the reason? You got it: George W. Bush!!
(4) Saudis have spent $10Billion plus in spreading wahhabi poison across the globe. Whole societies have been destroyed by it. Whose fault: George Bush.
Fortunately, a few decent societies remain. In Saudi Arabia, China, Vietnam and Cuba, people of all different religions and cultures live peacefully. The sound of azaan coexists with the hindu temple bells; the sound of ave maria with buddham sharnam gachhami. This is where freedom and multi-culturalism reigns supreme.
oooops, wait a minute. I got confused. I meant Chicago, arre yeh kya hua?
Masadi-ji, please help us!!
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