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#48, if you don`t have brains enough to respond intelligently to my posts, I suggest you shut up about them.

Good to see you back on Chowk again Bina Ji. I am glad that you and your family take all this in your stride like battle hardened veterans, except that the Danish butter lost its taste. You pose a lot of questions in your article. Did you expect someone to answer them or are they all rhetorical? I would like to know how many bomb blasts take place in Karachi in a year or a month on the average?

``How do you stop yourself from feeling that every day you go out is a game of Russian roulette?``

About 55,000 people die in Freeway accidents in US every year. In `waiting for Godot` God is a harried Puerto Rican, who decides when and where to cause an accident. You being a good Muslimah must know how Allah decides these things. What do you say? Maybe Masadi knows but the damn fool is not talking.

Meanwhile, please b careful.

WE need our brave men and women who can openly say FU to OBL and his gang of followers........and not get terrorized by the chavanni lumpens mobilized by the mullahs.................the popular street `rage` against Bush was a mobilization by the mullahs with ample help from their counterparts across the borders.................whom are we trying to fool?

Atleast there are atleast some brave men and women who can thumb these Islamists and their ideological supporters who have been pursuing their agendas by infilterating the local masjids and inciting communal violence and hatred worldwide................

Full text: Writers` statement on cartoons
A group of 12 writers have put their names to a statement in French weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo warning against Islamic ``totalitarianism``. Here is the text in full:


After having overcome fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism, the world now faces a new global totalitarian threat: Islamism.

We, writers, journalists, intellectuals, call for resistance to religious totalitarianism and for the promotion of freedom, equal opportunity and secular values for all.

Recent events, prompted by the publication of drawings of Muhammad in European newspapers, have revealed the necessity of the struggle for these universal values.

This struggle will not be won by arms, but in the ideological field.

It is not a clash of civilisations nor an antagonism between West and East that we are witnessing, but a global struggle that confronts democrats and theocrats.

Like all totalitarian ideologies, Islamism is nurtured by fear and frustration.

Preachers of hatred play on these feelings to build the forces with which they can impose a world where liberty is crushed and inequality reigns.

But we say this, loud and clear: nothing, not even despair, justifies choosing darkness, totalitarianism and hatred.

Islamism is a reactionary ideology that kills equality, freedom and secularism wherever it is present.

Its victory can only lead to a world of injustice and domination: men over women, fundamentalists over others.

On the contrary, we must ensure access to universal rights for the oppressed or those discriminated against.

We reject the ``cultural relativism`` which implies an acceptance that men and women of Muslim culture are deprived of the right to equality, freedom and secularism in the name of the respect for certain cultures and traditions.

We refuse to renounce our critical spirit out of fear of being accused of ``Islamophobia``, a wretched concept that confuses criticism of Islam as a religion and stigmatisation of those who believe in it.

We defend the universality of the freedom of expression, so that a critical spirit can exist in every continent, towards each and every maltreatment and dogma.

We appeal to democrats and free spirits in every country that our century may be one of light and not dark.


Signed by:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Chahla Chafiq

Caroline Fourest

Bernard-Henri Levy

Irshad Manji

Mehdi Mozaffari

Maryam Namazie

Taslima Nasreen

Salman Rushdie

Antoine Sfeir

Philippe Val

Ibn Warraq

#51 reproducing a letter by bigots writes

<<< We refuse to renounce our critical spirit out of fear of being accused of ``Islamophobia``, a wretched concept that confuses criticism of Islam as a religion and stigmatisation of those who believe in it. >>>

Islamophobia is exactly what their rendition of what they call ``Islam-ism`` is, a fear of everything even remotely associated with Islam. Would adding an ``ism`` to any other religion`s name and then equating it with all that is evil be acceptible? Of course not but now since its ``open season`` against Islam as once there was against communism, we see these fascists coming out with this BS, and look at the clowns that have signed it, Ibn Warraq and Irshad Manji, poster children for bigoted hate.

``poster children for bigoted hate.``

Maulana Masadi........you spout hate and profanities against not merely the state apparatus of the US but also against the liberal institutions and its empowered secular people.....you hate anybody who can rise to their levels of affluence and technology without paying repespects to your crappy theology.....that is what fills you with hatred.........you hate them because they care a damn about what you think is the purest of all forms of TRUTH.............you hate them because by ignoring you they mock at your intellectual bigotry.....that is what pisses you off.......you cry for attention like a spoilt child ......you even steal from their social theorists and try to pass off as something ``Original`` by quoting from the books........you are actually a bigoted Islamist who is trying to find a NEW space to occupy in the already infested continuam of Islamist idiots who pass off as scholars..............infact you are the real BIGOT...................

My criticism is directed towards the bureaucratized social system as exists in the US that has enslaved not only its own citizens but through its globalized network is busy enslaving the vast majority of humankind. The social theorists you talk about whom I ``borrow`` from- and I have given credits on every occassion I have borrowed research from anyone, if you had spent time studying their work conclude much the same.

Your insinuation that I try to pass work by them as my ``orignal`` is a dispicable lie. Visit my site and read my articles, I cite people whenever I use their work. Bigots like Ibn Warraq and Manji, read their work also and guage the calibre of their ``scholarship``. Those social theorists whose work I use wouldn`t spit on their work or their terms like ``Islamism``. They have no clue about social structure, the interaction of political/economic and military institutions around the world and like damn fools, based upon bigotry and hate they lay the blame on Islam. Like the right wing Christian evangelical, these people are shock troops of the imperialists, mouth pieces of hate and propaganda. Know that I will oppose them on every occassion, whenever they raise their stinking slogans, and I will oppose this global system of tyranny forced upon the world by the American elite.

``They have no clue about social structure, the interaction of political/economic and military institutions around the world and like damn fools, based upon bigotry and hate they lay the blame on Islam. Like the right wing Christian evangelical, these people are shock troops of the imperialists, mouth pieces of hate and propaganda.``

You REEK of the intellectual ELITISM you so profoundly lecture to others...........your two pence elitism has been already discussed threadbare in the Critical Theorist Tradition...........and you have just ripped off their social theories and the consequent critique of American Hegemony of Lifeworlds into some Islamist Kitch theory all aimed at what the traditionalist call as Dawah....................................You do not fool me Maulana Saheb.......because I can clearly see the 6 foot long beard that you try to hide under your expensive western attire..............

#55 writes <<< You do not fool me Maulana Saheb.......because I can clearly see the 6 foot long beard that you try to hide under your expensive western attire.............. >>>

As has been a long tradition in the line of damn fools, they say things they have no clue about based upon stereotype and prejudice. They are deaf to facts and all ears when it comes to any BS that feeds their prejudice. I haven`t ``ripped off`` anyone`s theories, when I use them I mention their names and the person whose work I use most died half a century back, so there is no ``ripping off`` going on when I expand upon his work to understand the world today. Last time I checked in the mirror, which was yesterday, I neither had a beard nor a moustache, maybe it grew over night and ballukhan received a revealtion about it`s particular length.

Take note that all his posts and hamidm`s posts are full of rhetorical, stereotypical BS and Ad Hominem arguments about me ``ripping off`` people`s work, but not one point that I raise is EVER answered by them. These damn fools are a ruined defeated lot, all they can do is come up with fiction tales about ``gabby`` and poke fun like adolescent idiots. A few decades from now when they are gone from this earth, nobody will remember their names, and what would they have achieved as far as contribution to humanity goes, absolutely nothing. It is very easy to go along with the tide, sing praises of the tyrants and the powerful, going in the opposite direction, the direction of truth, that is the hard path but these idiots lack the character and the intelligence to choose that path. I pity them even as I mock their ignorance.

`` A few decades from now when they are gone from this earth, nobody will remember their names, and what would they have achieved as far as contribution to humanity goes, absolutely nothing. ``

Listen you moron................we have no interest in seeking greatness through intellectual martydom...........neither do we seek to achieve immortality in other`s memories like you so dreadfully desire .......nor we do we want to errect theoratical dargahs like your ``Grand Unifying Theories`` with the desire that the faithfuls should bow down in some reverence whenever they recall our names.............unlike you we have absolutely no desire for the continuance of our existence in any one`s mind when we are gone................

We ONLY care about our immediate future..............we want to make our existence on this planet as beautiful as possible...............but you seek the opposite and want to create hell for us..........and for that we would certainly do EVERYTHING to ensure that imbecile Islamist sympathesizers like you do not convert more gullible muslims into your path to self destruction...........................it is a battle between those who seek LIFE and those who seek DEATH...................................

#57 ballukhan is spamming both thread thereby forcing me to post the same answer here that I did in the ``Karachi Bomb.....`` article. So here

ballukhan writes <<< ..............we want to make our existence on this planet as beautiful as possible...............but you seek the opposite and want to create hell for us..... >>>

And ``beautiful`` for you is the daily and weekly and yearly routine that those that command the institutional structure have laid out for you. That is ``hell`` from which I seek to rescue humanity, not only does it rob people of their freedom and reason, it robs them of the best years of the only life they will ever have on earth. You want to justify and legitimize that hell, but I`ll never let you do it regardless of your rhetoric. You see to blind humanity, I seek to enlighten it to the reality that is constructed around them, a mirage that robs them of everything human.

Then this sob writes <<< and for that we would certainly do EVERYTHING to ensure that imbecile Islamist sympathesizers like you do not convert more gullible muslims into your path to self destruction...........................it is a battle between those who seek LIFE and those who seek DEATH...................................>>>

Converting people is the last thing on my mind and converting you or hamidm is extremely distasteful to me because I would like blind A.Hs like you to suffer in your blindness, you don`t deserve the beauty of reason, you don`t deserve to benefit from the truth. And damn fool, the Quran tells me that conversion and guidance is not the concern of Muslims or the prophet, that is Allah`s to hand or take away. I am only interested in reason and making the truth clear, and yes it is a fight alright between the tyrants those that are killing the earth and its environment and those that feel that the vast majority of humanity, living and dying in extreme want, deserve better than what these elite hand them. And in this fight the Mullah is with the Imperialist, with you and not with me or the people who place the concerns of humanity before profit making.

``you don`t deserve the beauty of reason, you don`t deserve to benefit from the truth.......``

Miyan, apni daadi sambhaalo pehele.....upar walen ne bahut kuch diya hai......he is compassionate and generous enough to give more to nobody like me...................

Re: # 58

I cannot let this NONSENSE pass -

[And ``beautiful`` for you is the daily and weekly and yearly routine that those that command the institutional structure have laid out for you. That is ``hell`` from which I seek to rescue humanity, not only does it rob people of their freedom and reason, it robs them of the best years of the only life they will ever have on earth. You want to justify and legitimize that hell, but I`ll never let you do it regardless of your rhetoric. You see to blind humanity, I seek to enlighten it to the reality that is constructed around them, a mirage that robs them of everything human.]

First of all, learn to talk like a decent and educated muslim man before you write nonstop nonsense under the garb of enlightened discourses. Muslims are in danger if men like you consider themselves the wisest of all and are related to sociology in anyway.

[Then this sob writes]

Indeed a rational muslim`s way of addressing others. How impressive!

[Converting people is the last thing on my mind and converting you or hamidm is extremely distasteful to me because I would like blind A.Hs like you to suffer in your blindness, you don`t deserve the beauty of reason, you don`t deserve to benefit from the truth. And damn fool, the Quran tells me that conversion and guidance is not the concern of Muslims or the prophet, that is Allah`s to hand or take away. I am only interested in reason and making the truth clear, and yes it is a fight alright between the tyrants those that are killing the earth and its environment and those that feel that the vast majority of humanity, living and dying in extreme want, deserve better than what these elite hand them. And in this fight the Mullah is with the Imperialist, with you and not with me or the people who place the concerns of humanity before profit making.]


Quran also tells a man to mind his manners. If it is not written in Quran, it is clearly stated in Hadith. Being the wise chap you are, I thought you would understand the concept of usvatun hasanah that the prophet stressed upon. It seems like most of us you like to pick and choose what suits you. Great. Welcome to the club!

Enjoy the Oscar Ceremony!

#60 Zahra J, your post is filled with pathetic Ad Hominem attacks and instead of directing your wrath at sobs like ballukhan that are openly attacking Islam with insults, deceptive lies and propaganda, you try to sermonize me. Are you a hypocrite as well as being dumb?

Re: # 61
{your post is filled with pathetic Ad Hominem attacks}

Sweet Brother Masadi: I was just trying to emulate your footsteps. You must be blind to miss that. I am offffffffffffffffffended. Thank you for awarding me with an additional adjective - hypocrite. I lovvvvvvvve it when I run into a fellow hypocrite. As I said earlier, welcome to the club! Good night. Ta Ta. Khuda Hafiz.

#62, Try to understand the Quran based on its own logic rather than mix and associate it with the mullah`s interpretation and tales (aka hadith). Now take it easy, there are bigger battles to be fought than baseless bickering with me, khuda hafiz to you as well.