Another Life in Danger in Pakistan

#12 by bjkumar

[Ajeya, this board is meant to place a focus on the tragedy of some real individuals - with the hope that such focus will in some ways help their cause.]

Which ways?

[It is best not to turn it into the usual shouting match - which would only distract from its message. I urge all interactors to keep that in mind and add your own positive voice - it may not help but certainly worth a try! ]

No, it`s not worth a try. Pakistanis won`t give a damn, and the few Indians on this site don`t amount to much.

[For all we know - there may be some REAL patriotic Pakistanis (not the usual suspects - the chest thumpers) who may be in a position to make a difference. ]

There are. People like Mantolives, Romair and others seem to be well-connected. But if you think that they are going to do something that upsets their pet theory that RAW is behind bombings in Pakistan, then you are very much deluded.

Even FV, an Indian citizen, was completely convinced that Sarabjit was guilty.

Such is the Muslim mind.

Ajeya, this board is meant to place a focus on the tragedy of some real individuals - with the hope that such focus will in some ways help their cause. It is best not to turn it into the usual shouting match - which would only distract from its message. I urge all interactors to keep that in mind and add your own positive voice - it may not help but certainly worth a try!

For all we know - there may be some REAL patriotic Pakistanis (not the usual suspects - the chest thumpers) who may be in a position to make a difference.

In the latest twist in the Sarabjit case, the Pakistani Court (read President Mushu) has rejected Sarabjit`s plea. Somehow this comes right on the heels of the Indian Govt pointing fingers at Pakistan after the Varanasi blast.

In a way, I think the Sarabjit case serves as a lesson and a reminder to all those punjabis/sikhs who start waxing poetic and misty eyed when they talk about Lahore/Karachi/Pakistan.

The lesson here: avoid that accursed land like the plague!

#2 by behram1

Let me translate this post from Pakispeak to English:

[Aziz Narejo Sahib:

What sort of an activist are you?]

You piece of $hit! How DARE you embarass us Pakis on a forum where Hindus are present?

[Array bhai, you should be activating the conscious of the white folks, who will usually get the ball rolling further than the brownies could ever do at this chowk. These morally dead people will never demonstrate about anything.]

Idiot! Pakis and Indians (read Muslims and Hindus) are EQUALLY bad! Therefore this story is not embarrassing for us Pakis AT ALL! So there!

[If you are truly an activisit then come to our state capital and hold a placard, and trust me I will right beside you.

This is how a typical demonstration of conscience start. ]

What you are is a FAKE! blah blah blah blah... I am not like other brownies.....blah blah blah

Aziz Narejo -
Good to see you again on Chowk after a long time. Thanks for the beginning and the end. They hold a lot of meaning for those who believe in activism. I agree with Behram`s suggestion. Good luck.

#7 Kaurasach

[...most of the world is full cannibals....and Desis being the most notorious ....]

Kaura, are you a desi?

Except the west, most of the world is full cannibals....and Desis being the most notorious ....Only God can save and protect us.....May God help him.

Interesting...

http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/briefs/031196.html

Derechos: The Week in Human Rights - Oct. 28 to Nov. 3, 1996


Oct. 28

(Reuters) - Guatemala - The human rights group Alliance Against Impunity expressed its opposition to a complete amnesty for Guatemala`s army and leftist rebels who violated human rights. The announcement came on the eve of new peace talks between the government and leftist guerillas.

(Reuters) - Burundi - The Burundi army, which is mostly Tutsi, admitted today that its soldier killed 50 Hutu civilians in the province of Bururi. Lieutenant-Colonel Isaie Nibizi said that arrests had been made and those responsible would be brought to justice. A human rights worker suggested that the announcement was part of a move by the government to clean up its image in the eyes of the Hutu majority.

(Reuters) - Burma - The Burmese government today freed 75-year-old Kyi Maung, the deputy chairman of the opposition National League for Democracy, according to NLD source. Kyi Maung had been detained last week and questioned about his alleged involvement in a student protest.

(Reuters) - Jordan - Jordanian Information Minister Marwan Muasher defended Jordan`s human rights records and denied that the government has tortured prisoners or carried out arbitrary arrests, in response to a report by the Arab Organization for Human Rights. According to the report, human rights violations under Prime Minister Abdul Karim al-Kabariti have been the worst since 1989. Muasher also confirmed the release of journalists Fuad Hussein and Nahed Hattar. Both had been arrested and charged with inciting riots.

(BBC) - Cambodia - Cambodia`s King Norodom Sihanouk canceled a previously-announced proposal to grant pardons to nearly all prisoners. In a statement, Sihanouk said that the pardon was withdrawn after criticism from students and political parties.

(AFP) - Pakistan - Arshad Jamil, a former captain in the Pakistan army, was hanged today after being convicted of killing nine villagers from Tando Bahawal in 1992

Fuzair: Good to see you back btw.

#3

Wow. That`s pretty big, for an officer to be hanged. Yup, that should have been mentioned in the article.

I have no idea as to the merits of this particular case but it might interest some of the readers to know something which Mr. Narejo has carefully refrained from mentioning. IIRC, Maj. Arshad was court-martialled, found guilty, and hung in 1996. I think he might also have been reduced in rank, hence Mr. Narejo`s confusion in recalling whether he was a Major or a Captain.

While the military`s policies in Sindh have been extremely brutal at times, occasionally the Army as an institution does something right--hanging Arshad Jamil in this case. It really does nothing for Narejo`s credibility if he mentions this outrage but carefully refrains from pointing out that Jamil was hung by the Army.

Aziz Narejo Sahib:

What sort of an activist are you? Array bhai, you should be activating the conscious of the white folks, who will usually get the ball rolling further than the brownies could ever do at this chowk. These morally dead people will never demonstrate about anything. If you are truly an activisit then come to our state capital and hold a placard, and trust me I will right beside you.

This is how a typical demonstration of conscience start.

These are highly moving accounts. I commend the efforts of individuals who persist inspite of being suppressed so ruthlessly - and use peaceful means to protest. I admire their spirit and as long as there is even one spark of such spirit - and from these accounts it is evident that such sparks exist aplenty - there is still hope!

I sometimes wonder, doesn`t ANYBODY in the Pakistani military have a heart - and does it not feel the slightest degree of remorse for what it does to its own people?

And no, one does not need to be a Pakistani to ask that question.