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#408 by masanamuthu

[Next major terrorist attack in the West and I worry for the safety for all of us who might look like Muslims (mainly the Sikhs and Arab like folks..). ]


Yes, but I hope they get the Islam apologist Dhimmis like Behram, Mantolives etc. first. And the lefties. Yes. The lefties. That would be wonderful.

I think the game is up for Muslims atleast in the West.. Look at the hype generated about the ``arab ports deal`` or the ``cartoons issue``. But I am worried at the trend.. Next major terrorist attack in the West and I worry for the safety for all of us who might look like Muslims (mainly the Sikhs and Arab like folks..).

Even the leaders are NOT saying the politically correct things these days. War against terror turned into War against religious extremism (Bush uses radical Islam) and after a while the ``radical`` would be dropped too..

Mantolives:

I appreciate your concern for Jews and anger against Gandhi, Hitler etc..

I would like to point this out..

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/041.smt.html
Book 041, Number 6985:

Abu Huraira reported Allah`s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.



Looks like Mr.Mohammed had talked some bad things about Jews.. What do you think??
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#405

No, not lame. Just limping from a dogbite.

:)

#403 dont give lame excuses.

#394 by harimau

[[Re: # 374 dullah

Actually you are right :- according to pakis - today`s muslims who were originally hinuds converted to islam to escape hindu caste repression of those times....]

And the Hindu women voluntarily wanted to get inside a black tent to escape what? Can the Pakistanis answer that?]]


No they cannot. They`ll pretend not to have seen this question.

#402 by tahmed32

[harimau: ``As to Pakistan, good riddance to bad rubbish!``

Your big talk is hollow, given the single-minded obsession with Pakistan and muslims you have demonstrated on chowk, and by seeking out and clinging to a Pakistani website for almost a decade now!! ]


If a dog is constantly snapping at your heels, trying to bite off chunks of flesh from you, you tend to get a bit obsessed with it.

harimau: ``As to Pakistan, good riddance to bad rubbish!``

Your big talk is hollow, given the single-minded obsession with Pakistan and muslims you have demonstrated on chowk, and by seeking out and clinging to a Pakistani website for almost a decade now!!

Dear Shishapa...

Don`t try to be clever by half ... Azad`s claims are not nearly as comprehensive as the real situation.

The simpleton Mullah has been quoted because he was the Congress President ... and here is a Congress president saying this about the Congress Party...

What does that tell you ? Don`t spin it dude. Accept the facts.

Re: # 396

And readings, calls, judgements, conclusions by Maulana Abul Kalam Azad are always
correct like his decision to call India Dar Ul Harb and do Hijrat, not supporting call for
creation of Pakistan, right?
If Maulana Abul Kalam Azad is part of that willing mullah brigade that Congress co-opted,
why trust his observations/conclusions in this regard? Because they suit you?

``abay chootiye ki aulad``

So now its back to Gandhian ideology of abusing people you don`t agree with. All I can say is you are a true Gandhian rsridhar... a true Gandhian.

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``Yasser, dear boy, it is called restoring the status quo ante``


Fancy words don`t mean anything. The fact is that a Majority Communal group attacked the place of worship of a minority group... and there is only one term for it : Religious fascism...

Look and learn from the Israelis... they have a much more genuine claim on ``Dome of Rock``... but they haven`t restored ``status quo ante``.. because they have seen fascism and attempts to restore ``status quo ante`` in form of Adolf Hitler... oh I forgot thats the guy everyone from Gandhi (``Hitler is not a bad man``) to RSS and Savarkar looked up to.

So spare me the bullshit...

Harimau...

Have you read Durga Das` ``India: From Curzon to Nehru``... or there is another book out by an Indian publisher called ``Ambassador of Hindu Muslim Unity- Jinnah`s early politics``... the image one gets from that is at complete variance from your pathetic sound byte... his popularity amongst Hindus right upto 1937 was as much as his popularity amongst the Muslims ... In any event, Jinnah served as an elected member of the assembly continuously for over 37 years ...

Now coming to the real issue... of Hindu domination... this is from Maulana Azad`s book (almost a confession if you may):

The first was the case of Mr. Nariman, a Parsee and an acknowledged leader of the local Congress in Bombay, who was generally expected to lead the provincial government. Sardar Patel and his colleagues could not reconcile with such a leadership of non-Hindu Chief Minister where ``the majority of members in the Congress Assembly Party were Hindus.`` [p. 16]

``Mr. Nariman was naturally upset about the decision. He raised the question before the Congress Working Committee. Jawaharlal was then President and many hoped that in view of his complete freedom from communal bias; he would rectify the injustice to Nariman. Unfortunately this did not happen. ... He [Jawaharlal] sought to placate Patel and rejected Nariman`s appeal. ... Nariman was surprised at Jawaharlal`s attitude, especially as Jawaharlal treated him harshly and tried to shout him down in the meeting of the Working Committee.`` [p. 16-17]

``Nariman had lost the case even before the enquiry began. It was finally held that nothing was proven against Sardar Patel. None who knew the inner story was satisfied with this verdict. We all know that truth has been sacrificed in order to satisfy Sardar Patel`s communal demands. Poor Nariman was heart broken and his public life came to an end.`` [p. 17]

``A similar development took place in Bihar. Dr. Syed Mahmud was the top leader of the province when the elections were held. He was also a General Secretary of the All India Congress Committee and as such he had a position both inside and outside the province. When the Congress secured an absolute majority, it was taken for granted that Dr. Syed Mahmud would be elected the leader and become the first Chief Minister of Bihar under Provincial Autonomy. Instead, Sri Krishna Sinha and Anugraha Narayan Sinha who were members of the Central Assembly, were called back to Bihar and groomed for the Chief Ministership. Dr. Rajendra Prasad played the same role in Bihar as Sardar Patel did in Bombay.`` [p. 17]

``These two instances left a bad taste at the time. Looking back, I cannot help feeling that the Congress did not live up to its professed ideals. One has to admit with regret that the nationalism of the Congress had not then reached a stage where it could ignore communal considerations and select leaders on the basis of merit without regard to majority or minority.`` [p. 18]



This is a Congress president speaking...

In reality it was the inability of the Hindu bourgeoisie to deal with the rise of a Muslim bourgeoisie (which it tried to undercut by making alliances with the mullahs) that led to partition... So spare me your ``soundbytes`` and grandiose claims... and learn to respect others at long last...

Ref Mantolives #390

[Raw...
....only someone like you would accept the contention that bulldosing a minority`s place of worship can be described as a great triumph for secularism.]

Yasser, dear boy, it is called restoring the status quo ante. You might want to look up the term. But don`t look in the Koran.

When you actually understand the term, you might want to do the same thing (restoring the status quo ante) to your dick.

Ref mohar11 #380

[Re: # 374 dullah

Actually you are right :- according to pakis - today`s muslims who were originally hinuds converted to islam to escape hindu caste repression of those times....]

And the Hindu women voluntarily wanted to get inside a black tent to escape what? Can the Pakistanis answer that?