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Varanasi Explodes

Chowk Staff March 7, 2006

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#472 Posted by harish_hyd on March 13, 2006 2:05:28 am
#471 by Mantolives

[Frankly you`ve never contributed anything useful to the discussion nor defended your pathetic assertions with any measure of success... so I am not convinced.]

And here are is `useful contribution`, a flip-flop within a mere 10 posts.

#466 by Mantolives on March 13, 2006 0:26am PT

[Richard Grenier`s essay forms a part of larger book. Gandhi`s sleeping habits intensified after Kasturba kicked the bucket...

This is from the Time Magazine which is the gospel of the truth..

``and he liked testing his powers of self-denial by sleeping naked with young women``]

#455 by Mantolives on March 12, 2006 11:11pm PT

[Time magazine vs Express India ... hmm.. not that I consider Time a gospel of the truth.]
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#471 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2006 1:45:22 am

Some people love to inflict pain on themselves. For them the marginal utility never ends. Frankly you`ve never contributed anything useful to the discussion nor defended your pathetic assertions with any measure of success... so I am not convinced.
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#470 Posted by harish_hyd on March 13, 2006 1:31:09 am
#469 by Mantolives

[Frankly the marginal utility here is fast diminishing.]

Not for me Yasser.

[So instead of wasting your time and mine, pay some attention to your job...]

But why don`t you tell us how you reached the conclusion that a native correspondent of a foreign newspaper will write lies?
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#469 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2006 1:23:07 am
Harish...

For someone who routinely abuses me as an idiot, chutya etc, I wonder why you continue to argue with me. Frankly the marginal utility here is fast diminishing.

So instead of wasting your time and mine, pay some attention to your job...
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#468 Posted by harish_hyd on March 13, 2006 1:06:10 am
#461 by Mantolives

[So who do you think covers REUTERS in India? A gora? Most of REUTERS local correspondents are Indian... so don`t try to be clever by half.]

So a Reuters correspondent who is Indian by nationality is allowed to write lies and only a `gora` will write truths? If say the NYT hires you as their Pakistan correspondent, will that mean you`ll only file lies? Really Yasser, I have seen idiots who argue just for the sake of it, but this one takes the cake.
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#466 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2006 12:26:03 am
Ramanujan,

For your information Gandhi`s Experiment with the Truth was written some where close to 1920... and not in 1940s.

Richard Grenier`s essay forms a part of larger book. Gandhi`s sleeping habits intensified after Kasturba kicked the bucket...


This is from the Time Magazine which is the gospel of the truth..

``and he liked testing his powers of self-denial by sleeping naked with young women``



The naked women were Manu and I forget the name of the other poor soul...


Here is another book you might want to consider: Joseph S. Alter. Gandhi`s Body: Sex, Diet, and the Politics of Nationalism

Furthermore... if I remember correctly another Pro-Gandhi book ``Freedom at Midnight`` makes references to this bizarre activity as well... so does Gandhi`s Passion mind you...


And this from another pro-Gandhi website:

`` To test his self-control Gandhi slept naked with young women``
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#467 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2006 12:28:57 am
Re: # 466

I missed the url for that: http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/gandhi.htm
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#465 Posted by Ramanujan on March 13, 2006 12:25:06 am
Mantolives,

I found this about Richard Greiner:

[Richard Grenier was a film critic, not a historian. He is quoted in Sepia Mutiny twice (August 3, 2005 and October 3, 2004) – once only using his phrase “caveat emptor” (http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/000472.html). Ralph Reed, a powerful evangelist from Christian Right plagiarized him for the same article on Gandhi when he was a student at University of Georgia and was subsequently fired. Richard Grenier analysis is fraught with out right lies, second hand, and third hand analysis twisted out of context.]

I`m afraid this refernce of yours is unacceptable unless you can show me where HE got the information from. You are the accuser. So the burden of proof is on you.

When I accuse Mohammed, I always give references, chapter and verse.

I sure hope YOU come up with some.


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#464 Posted by Ramanujan on March 13, 2006 12:15:10 am
Mantolives,

Is Richard Greiner`s essay your SOLE source? Or do you have anything more?

Since you seem to have time enough to be making posts here, I would appreciate a reply. Gandhi documented his own ``experiments with truth``. I have read the, Those contain no mention of any sleeping naked business.

I would like you to give me an authentic source.

I hope you believe me when I say that I will see this issue through. And I hope you are not lying.


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#462 Posted by MantoLives on March 12, 2006 11:38:23 pm

``I also assume you believe (or want us to believe) that Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, Maulana Masood Azhar, and Syed Salahuddin, the men behind the terrorist outfits that attack Indian targets not just in Kashmir but beyond as well, are not in Pakistan (or Pak-administered territory). ``

Actually they are in Pakistan... and those who have read my posts that I have indicated on several occasions the exact location of Lashkar-e-Taiba headquarters...


``Well I won`t be surprised if you say that, considering the fact that you also denied there ever were chanda boxes in Lahore, contrary to reports by every western journalist and his mother-in-law.``

So Veeresh distorts something and that becomes true... I had personally reported and got removed a chanda camp from Johar Town Lahore... how could I deny it? See who the liar is? What I did say was that Lahore Railway station didn`t have any chanda boxes... because I went and checked... Shaukat Khanum Memorial Trust or SOS or Eidhi aren`t exactly terrorist outfits...
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#461 Posted by MantoLives on March 12, 2006 11:30:09 pm
Harish,

So who do you think covers REUTERS in India? A gora? Most of REUTERS local correspondents are Indian... so don`t try to be clever by half.


Ramanujan...

Some of us do this while also working... Gandhi`s experiments with sexuality are well documented. You might want to read Richard Grenier`s ``Gandhi nobody knows``...


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#460 Posted by Ramanujan on March 12, 2006 11:26:26 pm

Now where did the Mantolives disappear?

Well, I`ll be waiting for an answer.

But only so long....


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#460 Posted by harish_hyd on March 12, 2006 11:26:26 pm
#458 by harish_hyd

[You have to be incredibly blind or a unrepentant liar if you didn`t make a mention of the news source: Reuters. And Reuters, by the way is NOT an Indian news source.]

And you are what? ``Among other things``, a journalist for the Daily Times? I hope Najam Sethi Sahib doesn`t see this elementary goof-up.
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#459 Posted by Ramanujan on March 12, 2006 11:24:03 pm
Hello! Mantolives! This should be easy for someone who seems to be talking about Gandhi all the time!

Hello!

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#458 Posted by harish_hyd on March 12, 2006 11:23:39 pm
#455 by Mantolives

[Time magazine vs Express India ... hmm.. not that I consider Time a gospel of the truth.]

You have to be incredibly blind or a unrepentant liar if you didn`t make a mention of the news source: Reuters. And Reuters, by the way is NOT an Indian news source.

[The importance of the news story quoted is that an Indian intelligence officer ruled out any Pakistani involvement contrary to the claims of every fascist and his mother in law on these boards...]

I also assume you believe (or want us to believe) that Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, Maulana Masood Azhar, and Syed Salahuddin, the men behind the terrorist outfits that attack Indian targets not just in Kashmir but beyond as well, are not in Pakistan (or Pak-administered territory). Well I won`t be surprised if you say that, considering the fact that you also denied there ever were chanda boxes in Lahore, contrary to reports by every western journalist and his mother-in-law.
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#457 Posted by Ramanujan on March 12, 2006 11:23:17 pm
Re: 456 by myself

Correction

[Well take that up with the fascists who have ``claimed`` that. But could you kindly get over to the other forum and answer my question about the source of your information that Gandhi slept naked with his grandnieces? ]


I meant this forum ``Varanasi explodes``.


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