Australia’s Muslim youth -- A Battle for their Hearts and Minds

[The likes of you and harimu are nothing more than faceless racist cyber-pests]

Why are you taking it out on me? Couldn`t find any 13-year-old Aussie girl for showing your Pakiness?

It is because of immigrant Pakis that Muslims are getting a bad name. Last week another Pakistani muslim immigrant (Dewan Asgar Nabi) from India was caught sexually assaulting a 16-year old Aussie girl at the commonwealth games. Read this:

Four days after he set foot in Australia, the rape spree began. And during his sexual assault trial in a New South Wales courtroom, the Pakistani man began to berate one of his tearful 14-year-old victims because she had the temerity to shake her head at his testimony.

After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK (MSK? We know what SK stands for don`t we?) – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.”
In his own defence, he argued that his cultural background, was responsible for his crimes.

And he is right. In some parts of Pakistan, sexual assault – including gang rape – is officially sanctified as a legitimate form of enforcing the social value system.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20535

Re: # 30

Kahlid- after 17 pieces of senseless BS you deserve this...

The likes of you and harimu are nothing more than faceless racist cyber-pests. Indeed, your ugly existence has a use...you act as a warning for what this entire world could become if we stop trying....

Now you can slide back into your hole!

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: All critiques of Islam should be countered not by threats and violence, but by rational counter-argument.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We strongly denounce anti-Semitism. We accept Israel`s right to exist.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: Like men, women should have the right to decide how they will live, dress, travel, marry and divorce; if they do not enjoy these rights, they are clearly second-class citizens.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We accept the legitimacy of the secular state and the secular law. Islamic law, or sharia, was developed at a time when Muslims were living in homogenous communities. In the modern world, virtually all societies are pluralistic, consisting of different faiths and of different perceptions of each faith, including Islam. In this pluralistic setting, a legal system based on a particular version of a single religion cannot be imposed on all citizens.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We support and cherish democracy — not because we reject the sovereignty of the Almighty over people, but because we believe that this sovereignty is manifested in the general will of people in a democratic and pluralistic society. We do not accept theocratic rule.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: we cherish religious liberty. Every human has the right to believe or not to believe in Islam or in any other religion All Muslims furthermore have the right to reject and change their religion if desired.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We also believe that terrorist acts can never be justified or excused. None of the challenges Muslims face, such as oppression or military occupation, can justify attacks against non-combatants. In the Holy Koran, Allah orders Muslims to ``never let hatred of anyone lead you into the sin of deviating from justice.`` (5:8)

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

[only when educated expat muslims like you shout and rant against this propping up of these mullahs then you can be assured that these conservatives lose out]

What a joke! These mullahs log on to chowk read these articles and get educated. The article is nothing but the usual muslim whine heard in kafir countries. The only reasons for such articles is to put the blame somewhere else, and paste one`s own ``macho`` picture.

There is a way how muslims can be like other progressive immigrant communities. For that we have to re-format our brains of all the koranic crap instilled in our heads since birth. Many Indian muslims can show how.

``This is a nonsense, since these people do not represent the community.

Some mosques act as de facto community centres but most are dominated by conservative religious factions who often resist using mosques for anything but religion``

Your article is the right way to respond to these conservatives.............remember, the white conservatives love it when the mullah shouts Jehad in his weekly friday sermons.........actually these mullahs also get hyped up by the white conservative media so as to create sensationalism ............only when educated expat muslims like you shout and rant against this propping up of these mullahs then you can be assured that these conservatives lose out and do not remain a media news item for the conservative white......................only then you can peacefully enjoy the fruits of the western civilization.............so keep on shouting down these mullahs in th white media......if OBL spouts nonsense on Al-Jazeera we should shout him down in the western media.....remember the mullah rants are nothing but his publicity stunt to get him attention..................so we need to deny him the advantage that he appears to gain out of sensationalism..................

Re:19, 20

[The Nation of Islam calls white folks Satans.]

So do the Iranians, Talibanis and a whole lot of Pakistanis.



[The Muslim astronaut could carry a prayer rug with him with a compass embedded at one corner which would always show him the direction of Mecca.]

A compass working in space? What is it, another spectacular breakthrough in madarasa technology?

Ref khalid_ahmad #11

[You don`t have to apologize for associating with the left. Left, right, up, down are all relative. Direction is meaningless. Think scientifically - if a muslim astronaut ever went into space, which direction he would pray? East, west, left, right etc. are meaningless.]

The Muslim astronaut could carry a prayer rug with him with a compass embedded at one corner which would always show him the direction of Mecca. Saudia used to hand these out as gifts to passengers on its flight some time back.

Or, like Malaysian Airways, there would be a TV screen always showing the direction of Mecca. But since the satellite would be travelling rather fast, the direction of Mecca would be constantly changing. Maybe they could design a rotating platform that always aligns the arrow with the direction of Mecca no matter where the satellite is at any given time.

Hey, that looks like a PhD dissertation out of Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Technology! Any takers?

Ref khalid_ahmad #18

{Re: # 15
[Hopefully not someone from the Nation of Islam.]

Why this racism? Is Black Islam any worse than Brown Islam? Isn`t that also why 3 million Bangladeshis were killed by Pakistanis? Because they felt the dark Bengali Islam is inferior to the Punjabi Islam?}

The Nation of Islam calls white folks Satans. They preach racism. Having a Nation of Islam preacher in Sydney calling Australians (the majority of whom are still white) Satans is the last thing Aussie Muslims need if they want to integrate into Aussie society.

Re: # 15
[Hopefully not someone from the Nation of Islam.]

Why this racism? Is Black Islam any worse than Brown Islam? Isn`t that also why 3 million Bangladeshis were killed by Pakistanis? Because they felt the dark Bengali Islam is inferior to the Punjabi Islam?

Re: # 16

No one is forcing muslims to emigrate to Netherlands. The video test is a good thing. If a video offends muslims so much, then you can be sure some Pakistani jehadi will bomb himself to pieces in front of a window in the famous Red Light District in eager anticipation of the 72 he would get in heaven. Muslims have proven themselves to be dangerous in every civilized society. We cannot blame the Dutch for this.