Saleem Ali March 16, 2006
#142 Posted by faisaluno on March 18, 2006 10:06:31 am
here is another growth medical industry in india aka tuttistan:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/stories/20060324002304300.htm
Kidney Sale Centre,`` proclaims a banner sprawled across a ramshackle bamboo tent at Shingnapur village in Amravati district of Maharashtra. The farmers here are threatening to sell their kidneys. ``We have invited the Prime Minister and the President to inaugurate this kidney shop. They should allow us to sell our kidneys. We are all ruined by debt. Many farmers are killing themselves. Our kidneys are all we have left to sell,`` says Madhavgir Champat Giri, who sold all his land to pay his bank loan.
#141 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 10:06:03 am
A reality test for Pakistan
By Tariq Fatemi
GIVEN the tremendous hype that surrounded President Bush’s visit to Pakistan, there was a strong desire to go for an instant analysis, but this may not necessarily have been objective. Now that the leaders have spoken extensively, a fairly accurate and balanced assessment of the visit to Islamabad, and a brief comparison of it with that to New Delhi, can be made.
There is, of course, widespread joy and satisfaction in New Delhi and this is well-merited. At the same time, there is considerable disquiet and uncertainty in Islamabad and this, too, is understandable. But neither of these two reactions are surprising. A close reading of statements emanating from Washington and New Delhi in the past year, and especially since July 2005, when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President George Bush concluded their far-reaching understandings, it was clear that the two countries had taken decisions that were not only remarkable in their scale and ambition, but that also represented a radical transformation in policies.
The Bush visit was indeed a reality test for us for the US used the visit to confirm the death of its hyphenated policy in South Asia. US relations with Pakistan and India are no longer a zero sum game, the US proclaims with a callousness that only a super power can demonstrate. In that sense, it was not a pleasant experience for us. But it can nevertheless serve a useful purpose, provided we agree to remove the blinkers we have placed over our eyes.
By Tariq Fatemi
GIVEN the tremendous hype that surrounded President Bush’s visit to Pakistan, there was a strong desire to go for an instant analysis, but this may not necessarily have been objective. Now that the leaders have spoken extensively, a fairly accurate and balanced assessment of the visit to Islamabad, and a brief comparison of it with that to New Delhi, can be made.
There is, of course, widespread joy and satisfaction in New Delhi and this is well-merited. At the same time, there is considerable disquiet and uncertainty in Islamabad and this, too, is understandable. But neither of these two reactions are surprising. A close reading of statements emanating from Washington and New Delhi in the past year, and especially since July 2005, when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and President George Bush concluded their far-reaching understandings, it was clear that the two countries had taken decisions that were not only remarkable in their scale and ambition, but that also represented a radical transformation in policies.
The Bush visit was indeed a reality test for us for the US used the visit to confirm the death of its hyphenated policy in South Asia. US relations with Pakistan and India are no longer a zero sum game, the US proclaims with a callousness that only a super power can demonstrate. In that sense, it was not a pleasant experience for us. But it can nevertheless serve a useful purpose, provided we agree to remove the blinkers we have placed over our eyes.
#140 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2006 10:04:32 am
Yeah but what is the reaction of Kashmiri newspapers?
www.greaterkashmir.com
2 MILITANTS KILLED IN PAMPORE
GK NEWS SERVICE
Srinagar, Mar 15: Two militants were killed in an encounter with troops in Pampore area of Pulwama district while unidentified gunmen shot at and injured a civilian in Kathua district of Jammu.
Reports said two militants of Jaish outfit were killed in a nightlong encounter with troops of 50 Rashtriya Rifles and Police at Chandhara Pampore. The encounter broke out after troops cordoned of the village on Tuesday evening
and zeroed in the house of Firdous Ahmad Ganie.
The militants tried to break the cordon and fired on the troops. The exchange of fire continued throughout the night, reports said, adding two militants Zubair Ahmad Lone alias Irfan of Sempora and Ehtisham Pakistan were killed.
The house in which the militants had taken shelter was completely damaged in the firing. Police claimed recovery of arms and ammunition from the encounter site.
Jaish spokesperson, Abu Kudama in a telephonic statement to local news agency CNS claimed that several troopers were killed in the encounter.
Meanwhile, hundreds of people of Pampore and adjoining areas came on streets, shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. The militants were later buried in the local martyrs graveyard.
In Balwal village of Jammu’s Kathua district, unidentified gunmen fired upon Sanjay Kumar, injuring him seriously. He was hospitalised.
www.kashmirtimes.com
I can`t find the news item on 15,16 or 17 March.
www.greaterkashmir.com
2 MILITANTS KILLED IN PAMPORE
GK NEWS SERVICE
Srinagar, Mar 15: Two militants were killed in an encounter with troops in Pampore area of Pulwama district while unidentified gunmen shot at and injured a civilian in Kathua district of Jammu.
Reports said two militants of Jaish outfit were killed in a nightlong encounter with troops of 50 Rashtriya Rifles and Police at Chandhara Pampore. The encounter broke out after troops cordoned of the village on Tuesday evening
and zeroed in the house of Firdous Ahmad Ganie.
The militants tried to break the cordon and fired on the troops. The exchange of fire continued throughout the night, reports said, adding two militants Zubair Ahmad Lone alias Irfan of Sempora and Ehtisham Pakistan were killed.
The house in which the militants had taken shelter was completely damaged in the firing. Police claimed recovery of arms and ammunition from the encounter site.
Jaish spokesperson, Abu Kudama in a telephonic statement to local news agency CNS claimed that several troopers were killed in the encounter.
Meanwhile, hundreds of people of Pampore and adjoining areas came on streets, shouting anti-India and pro-freedom slogans. The militants were later buried in the local martyrs graveyard.
In Balwal village of Jammu’s Kathua district, unidentified gunmen fired upon Sanjay Kumar, injuring him seriously. He was hospitalised.
www.kashmirtimes.com
I can`t find the news item on 15,16 or 17 March.
#139 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 10:02:13 am
#138 by faisaluno on March 18, 2006 9:53am PT
hwy pakistanis, check out the reaction in iok at the death of pakistani terrorist:
They react by letting themselves be photographed so the Indian army can identify them as terrorist supporters and do what`s necessary?
smart move..
hwy pakistanis, check out the reaction in iok at the death of pakistani terrorist:
They react by letting themselves be photographed so the Indian army can identify them as terrorist supporters and do what`s necessary?
smart move..
#138 Posted by faisaluno on March 18, 2006 9:53:09 am
hwy pakistanis, check out the reaction in iok at the death of pakistani terrorist:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=pakistan&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8&c=images&b=91&fr=FP-tab-news-t&c=images&b=101
Kashmiri Muslim villagers shouts pro freedom slogans during the funeral procession of a suspected militant at Sambora some 30 kilometers (12.5 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Wednesday, March 15, 2006. Thousands of men and women shouting pro freedom slogans took part in the funeral procession of two suspected Islamic guerrillas belonging to the Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammad killed in a gun battle with Indian security forces on Tuesday, police said. (AP Photo/ Dar Yasin)






#138 Posted by faisaluno on March 18, 2006 9:53:10 am
hwy pakistanis, check out the reaction in iok at the death of pakistani terrorist:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?p=pakistan&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8&c=images&b=91&fr=FP-tab-news-t&c=images&b=101
Kashmiri Muslim villagers shouts pro freedom slogans during the funeral procession of a suspected militant at Sambora some 30 kilometers (12.5 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Wednesday, March 15, 2006. Thousands of men and women shouting pro freedom slogans took part in the funeral procession of two suspected Islamic guerrillas belonging to the Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammad killed in a gun battle with Indian security forces on Tuesday, police said. (AP Photo/ Dar Yasin)






#137 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 9:51:33 am
what was that about little fires burning?
21 Children Among Dead in Pakistan Blast
By NASEER KAKAR
Associated Press Writer
Published March 10, 2006, 11:26 AM CST
QUETTA, Pakistan -- A crowded bus carrying a wedding party hit an anti-tank mine Friday in a volatile region of southwestern Pakistan, killing at least 30 people and wounding eight, a doctor and officials said.
Dr. Sher Zaman, who tended to the injured, said the dead included 21 children and five women.
Officials said rescuers took the injured to hospitals as swiftly as possible in the remote, mine-laden area. Residents told The Associated Press by telephone that no ambulances or government medical teams reached the victims until seven hours after the blast.
The unrest in Baluchistan`s tribal areas has raised fears of a repeat of violence that rocked the province in the 1970s, when thousands died in a large-scale military operation against rebellious tribesmen.
21 Children Among Dead in Pakistan Blast
By NASEER KAKAR
Associated Press Writer
Published March 10, 2006, 11:26 AM CST
QUETTA, Pakistan -- A crowded bus carrying a wedding party hit an anti-tank mine Friday in a volatile region of southwestern Pakistan, killing at least 30 people and wounding eight, a doctor and officials said.
Dr. Sher Zaman, who tended to the injured, said the dead included 21 children and five women.
Officials said rescuers took the injured to hospitals as swiftly as possible in the remote, mine-laden area. Residents told The Associated Press by telephone that no ambulances or government medical teams reached the victims until seven hours after the blast.
The unrest in Baluchistan`s tribal areas has raised fears of a repeat of violence that rocked the province in the 1970s, when thousands died in a large-scale military operation against rebellious tribesmen.
#136 Posted by satyamvada on March 18, 2006 9:49:36 am
Here is very disturbing video and very graphic. Some of you may not want
to watch it.
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/video_released_by_al_qaeda_in_pakistan_Mar_17_2006.html
But in a P*ki society where bloodletting is rampant and children are forced to view
ritualistic painful killing of animals and streets flow with blood on their religious days -
people get accustomed to violence and can easily transfer their
violence onto other humans , once they realize it is justified in their books.
There is a huge Gulf in the value system of Pakiland and India. (yes: pun intended)
In 60 years - P*kis have successfully created an Arab tribal culture.
The Arabs can get away with it because of oil - P*kis are left holding the holy book.
Faisluno falsely claims that `Bhutto started an islamization drive. The islamization drive
had started long before Bhutto. Once the land of the Pure came into existence on
Aug-14 1947, the islamization drive, which was underneath, could come out into
the open and took of in earnest.
#135 Posted by faisaluno on March 18, 2006 9:44:05 am
imran khan is playing a very dangerous game. he realises that on his own, he will never achieve power so he is hoping to piggyback on jamaatis. in essence he is a tool in the hands of right wing facist elements who are using islam in their quest for power. if imran khan is a democrat as he claims to be, why is he aligning himself with a party whose main goal is the implementation of hasba bill which is neither islamic and certainly not democratic. ditto for mma and separate electorate.
btw here is what happens when mullahs are allowed to assume power in cloak of democracy:
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10932
Iranian journalist Akbar Ganji released
Ganji was jailed in 2000 for linking senior officials to the murder of dissidents in his articles
Iran`s famous journalist Akbar Ganji has been freed after six years behind bars, his lawyer has said.
``Ganji was freed late Friday after spending about six years in jail,`` his lawyer Yousef Mowlaei told The Associated Press.
Ganji was jailed in 2000 for linking senior officials to the murder of dissidents in some of his articles.
He wrote that murders of five dissidents were carried out by Intelligence Ministry agents and became a hero to the country`s reformists.
...The Iranian journalist went on a hunger strike for more than 80 days from May 19, 2005 until early August, 2005 except for a 12-day period of leave he was granted ahead of the country’s June 17, 2005 presidential elections.
...Interviewed by numerous news agencies during his leave in June 2005, Ganji criticised Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, and asked for his office to be put to public vote, which led to his re-arrest by Saeed Mortazavi, the general prosecutor of Tehran.
#134 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 9:43:33 am
Aww..pakis still smarting from the Bush jhapad in islamabad....hey pakis..your unacceptability of discrimination is unacceptable(and really irrelevant)..
BTW: First pakis asked for a nuke deal..then when they got smacked down they said they didn`t want a deal to begin with...now they`re saying they want a deal and they`re being discriminated against?
make up your mind already...
Indo-US accord termed threat to security: Discrimination unacceptable: FO
ISLAMABAD, March 17: Pakistan on Friday cautioned that grant of waiver by the US Congress to the agreement with India on civilian nuclear cooperation would have serious implications for the security environment in South Asia and said it would not accept any discriminatory treatment.
The Bush administration has sought a waiver from the US Congress for the implementation of the US-India agreement.
“The grant of the waiver as a special case will have serious implications for the security environment in South Asia as well as for international non-proliferation efforts,” the Foreign Office spokesperson said in a statement here.
The spokesperson said the proposed exception for India would not be helpful to the shared objectives of stability in South Asia.
“The agreement, which keeps a large number of facilities and reactors, including breeder reactors, outside safeguards, would only encourage India to continue its weapons programme without any constraint or inhibition.
BTW: First pakis asked for a nuke deal..then when they got smacked down they said they didn`t want a deal to begin with...now they`re saying they want a deal and they`re being discriminated against?
make up your mind already...
Indo-US accord termed threat to security: Discrimination unacceptable: FO
ISLAMABAD, March 17: Pakistan on Friday cautioned that grant of waiver by the US Congress to the agreement with India on civilian nuclear cooperation would have serious implications for the security environment in South Asia and said it would not accept any discriminatory treatment.
The Bush administration has sought a waiver from the US Congress for the implementation of the US-India agreement.
“The grant of the waiver as a special case will have serious implications for the security environment in South Asia as well as for international non-proliferation efforts,” the Foreign Office spokesperson said in a statement here.
The spokesperson said the proposed exception for India would not be helpful to the shared objectives of stability in South Asia.
“The agreement, which keeps a large number of facilities and reactors, including breeder reactors, outside safeguards, would only encourage India to continue its weapons programme without any constraint or inhibition.
#133 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 9:37:40 am
#132 by Ramanujan on March 18, 2006 9:30am PT
You mean average decent non-jihadi pakis like these ones?(the few that there are)

You mean average decent non-jihadi pakis like these ones?(the few that there are)

#132 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2006 9:30:51 am
Yeah to say that Indian Muslims are Indians not Pakistani stooges is of course to `emanate hatred` according to `liberal` Pakistanis. Facts of life hate Pakistanis.
#132 Posted by Ramanujan on March 18, 2006 9:30:51 am
Re: #25 by faisaluno
Is that why Pakis are coming across the border to the Indian hospitals in DROVES literally BEGGING for their children/themselves to be operated on?
Why can`t they stick to their own hospitals if they are so good?
:D
Is that why Pakis are coming across the border to the Indian hospitals in DROVES literally BEGGING for their children/themselves to be operated on?
Why can`t they stick to their own hospitals if they are so good?
:D
#131 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 9:25:21 am
98 by HisExcellency on March 17, 2006 7:30pm PT
Your soldiers are killing each other. You can`t withdraw troops from cities. You can`t withdraw troops from the villages.
So this would be a good time for allah`s own army, the paki army, to launch an operation to take parts of Kashmir...take over parts of Indian Kashmir...the Indian army, according to your own analysis, is tied up...so it won`t be able to do anything about it..maybe your can cut off access to Siachen and finally take control of Siachen...
I hear the grass on the mountains is excellent this time of the year...it`s almost zagat rated...
Your soldiers are killing each other. You can`t withdraw troops from cities. You can`t withdraw troops from the villages.
So this would be a good time for allah`s own army, the paki army, to launch an operation to take parts of Kashmir...take over parts of Indian Kashmir...the Indian army, according to your own analysis, is tied up...so it won`t be able to do anything about it..maybe your can cut off access to Siachen and finally take control of Siachen...
I hear the grass on the mountains is excellent this time of the year...it`s almost zagat rated...
#130 Posted by arjun_m on March 18, 2006 9:21:25 am
#109 by bbabu on March 17, 2006 8:25pm PT
How many indians have died as a result of paki terrorism: 5,000
How many pakis + Kashmiris have died(according to paki figures): 100,000
So there are 20 Kashmiri/Pakis dying fo for every Indian..
Seems to me we`ll run out of kashmiris/pakis before Kashmir banega Pakistan..
How many indians have died as a result of paki terrorism: 5,000
How many pakis + Kashmiris have died(according to paki figures): 100,000
So there are 20 Kashmiri/Pakis dying fo for every Indian..
Seems to me we`ll run out of kashmiris/pakis before Kashmir banega Pakistan..
#129 Posted by MantoLives on March 18, 2006 9:07:30 am
Faisal
Do you think Imran Khan`s agenda which is largely political and not at all religious per se... is anything like the Islamic revolutionaries of Iran?
Do you think Imran Khan`s agenda which is largely political and not at all religious per se... is anything like the Islamic revolutionaries of Iran?
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