The Quest for American Popularity in Pakistan

ahmadzai #203

`` Once somebody from his own clan advised a pakhtun at war with another clan that why don`t we call a jirga and extend freindship to our enemies. The jirga will declare peace between our two clans and all of us, including our next generation, will live happily ever after. The pakhtun said, ``I agree with your suggestion, but what is the guarantee that after I have disarmed myself, my old enemy will not kill me and my next generation? At least by continuing the enmity I have a guarantee that if he kills me or my next generation, I or someone from my clan will kill an equivalent from the enemy.`` ``

Hate to remind you - a few H-bombs over Pakhtun belt will eliminate their civilization for good.

`` All I am asking my Punjabi friends is not to under-estimate the American` neo-cons desire, in league with Indians and Israelis, to belittle Islam in general and to continue to inflict losses on Pakistan. ``

Do you something against Israelis ? Or you a bigot ? Why would Israelis care about destroying Pakistan ? They have their hands full.

They sell weapons to India for $$$. They do not mind sell weapons to China as long as Americans do not object. Your JF-17 combat aircraft from China carries Israeli avionics.

`` There are lot of noises in the corridors of power these days that if we return to our Jihadi ways there is an absolute guarantee that we and our next generation will perish, but we will take many of our sworn enemies down with us. That is absolute certainty.``

Empty vessels make a lot of noises

HP #156

`` I just don’t know why and how it would not be a good policy to take advantage of a bad situation in India. So if Pakistan can, it should concentrate on this Indian vulnerability. Since communalism and Hindu- Muslim divide in India is an Indian problem and if it offers an opportunity for Pakistan, then Pakistani should go for it and see what results come out of that. If that leads to communal strife in India, then that is an Indian problem and they should have dealt with in the last 60 years. Since they did not, I think it is a good tactical move to exploit that vulnerability. ``

It is assuming Indian Muslims are going to take aid from Pakistanis. Most of the Indian Muslims recognize their lot is not going to be improved by siding with Pakistan.

`` India did exploit a similar situation in East Pakistan when Bengali and Punjabi Pakistani had a power struggle back in 1971. So the precedent is there and there is no harm in testing the waters by Pak agencies to see what results a persistent effort (for at least one year) in Indian cities brings out. :) ``

It is assuming Pakistan can mount long range operations of any sort on Indian soil.

#209 Faisal

A few quick questions from you.

(1) Do you think that the khakis should be ruling Pakistan, or not?

(2) Do you think that Mukhtaran Mai is honest, or not?

(3) Do you believe that Pakistanis deserve the same type of democracy as the rest of the world, or not?

Thanks.

chowk`s pagal kutta in residence is taking his beating rather badly. he is reduced to fantasizing about the sex life of pak males on the internet.

Re: # 210

[Injuns are known cowards when it comes to war and anything involving physical activity - they have repeatedly lost wars to Pak fauj (T)]

Huh? They still teach that kind of nonsense in TSP madrassas? No wonder the nada crowd is so f@cked up. You can`t wake up the ones who are pretending to be sleeping.

haha...dravidian making fun of another dravidian:

http://content-eap.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/27603.html

#215 by faisal ``paki liberace`` ali on March 19, 2006 12:07pm PT


central asia? ummm... ok.. if you say so..

actually, my family is from central asia and here is our symbol. and i dont need to tell you how we dealt with the natives. waisay i dont know of another qaum who would tolerate this building:

http://www.destinationindia.com/editorial/heritage/delhi/qutab-minar.html



The Minar was said to have been built to glorify the victory of Mohammed Ghori, the invader from Afghanistan, over the Rajputs in 1192

Close to the Qutub Minar, The Quwwat-ul-Islam mosque was the first mosque to be built in India. Constructed by Qutub-ud-din Aibak using parts of 27 Jain and Hindu temples, this mosque present both Indian and Islamic features.

faisaluno(the paki liberace): If it wasn`t for the Indian army, the paki army would have killed and raped a lot more of your bengali brothers and sisters...

ahmadzai:
do you have any idea about ahmadzai-wazir tribe of FATA and why would these guys like to have Talibanist fascism imposed in waziristan than to help Pakistan-state in ridding alqaeda? although, the possibility of Pakistani state agencies helping taliban/alqaeda (on the side) cant be ruled out.

arjun_m has done more than to just blabber on chowk. most of the time he`d post hard-data (links to news stories and op-eds) to back up his argument...
he might be a monster in real life who eats babies for fun but that doesnt invalidate his eligibility for being a chowk member and certainly doesnt matter an iota on the natue of his chowk-content. ignore option is always there, in any case.

#200
I will certainly not advocate Indians playing dead when more attacks on our citizens` lives are threatened by posters such as HisExcellency.

Faisaluno, great post (T). Injuns are known cowards when it comes to war and anything involving physical activity - they have repeatedly lost wars to Pak fauj (T)

cant say i am surprised given their history.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=368417

Monitoring to check battle stress: Army
NEW DELHI, MAR 6 (PTI)

In the face of mounting cases of soldiers killing colleagues, Army today said ``strict monitoring`` was being done to check ``battle stress`` specially in counter-insurgency areas.

``Screening is being undertaken of all troops posted on frontlines and those inducted for counter-insurgency duties in Jammu and Kashmir``, top level army officers said attributing yesterday`s killing of five soliders by a fellow soldier near Jammu to ``mental depression``.

``Naik Satbir singh, the alleged killer was suffering from mental depression and had been placed in low medical category``, officers said as figures tabled by Government in Paliament said 10 soldiers and officers and had been killed in such incidents in the past year.

The killings, attributed to ``barrack fatigue`` by experts is not only confined to Army, but has also afflicted paramilitary forces and other securty detachments deployed in frontier areas, mostly in counter insurgency operations.

...Officials said the latest case of a soldier turning his gun on his colleagues appeared to be more mental depression related than operation stress as Singh was not nvolved in any counter-insurgency operation.

This is funny.. Everyone is ganging up on arjun_m as if he is the cause of all the problems in Pakistan.. :-))

The only thing he does is that he copies/pastes articles about Pakistan from various news sources (mostly non-Indian and some even from Pakistani newspapers) with caustic/funny comments..

You can respond in kind by pasting such articles about India.. That would be fun..or refute him if he lies.. Seriously, about this article, do you guys think an average american gives a damn about Pakistan / India ??.. If you are talking about American govt., it`s short term policy is to prevent ``Pakistani islamists/jihadists`` from staging terror attacks. not to win over hearts/minds.. They say that for public consumption. They know that their words can`t compare to Muhammad`s words. don`t take jews and christians as protecting friends..

Well, like he says, facts are anti-Pakistan. what can we do??. :-))

Oh those poor moderate never-supported-jihadis misunderstood pakis....lookie what those hindus/indians made them do..all they ever wanted was a moderate government in afghanistan, a peaceful afghanistan that wouldn`t blow up the statues...

Swiss documentary on Afghanistan: Pakistani, Saudi engineers helped destroy Buddhas

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: The Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan were destroyed by the Taliban with the help of Pakistani and Saudi engineers.

According to an account published here on Saturday, a local Afghan told the makers of a Swiss documentary on the giant statues which had stood there, carved in the side of a mountain for hundreds of years, had been destroyed by engineers from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The dynamiting of the statues took place in March 2001. Swiss documentary filmmaker Christian Frei, who has made several documentaries that have won praise at various international film festivals, shot ‘The Giant Buddhas’ in Afghanistan. The film is due to be shown at the National Gallery of Art in Washington on 26 March.

The Taliban went ahead with the destruction of the giant statues, revered for centuries, because they considered them “offensive to Islam”. They ignored appeals from around the world, including UNESCO and an appeal from the then Government of Pakistan, made, it would appear now, more “for the record” than any serious intent to stop the Islamist zealots from destroying what the rest of the world considered mankind’s heritage.