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The Cry of “Your Honour” is Now Silent

Ras Siddiqui March 20, 2006

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#17 Posted by MantoLives on March 25, 2006 6:12:57 am
It would be great if Hindu fascists and supremacists like BJKumar refrained from polluting every board from with their pathetic and ill-informed propaganda nonsense that Hindutva inspired governments have been shoving down their throats for 58 years...

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#16 Posted by MantoLives on March 25, 2006 6:09:02 am
bjkumar...

As usual you have no clue about what you are saying...

There is a very good book called ``50 years of Pakistani Cinema`` ... Pakistan`s Film Industry was doing very well till 1978... You consider the quality of movies ... and you would find that Pakistani movies were as good as Indian movies if not better...

General Zia destroyed it...
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#15 Posted by bjkumar on March 25, 2006 5:05:02 am

Thank you Ras saheb for this wonderful article. I did not know too much about the artist in question, but am a bit more enlightened now.

I believe that the division of the subcontinent did a truly hatchet job on the Urdu film industry. It still thrived in India - partly because we were fortunate enough to end up with some really talented folks - and partly because the commericial market size was larger - and perhaps also partly because there was less state-mandated (or perhaps state-expected) restrictions on what was considered kosher from the point of view of Pakistani ``nationalism``. (I hope the Pakistani film industry revives - but in all likelihood, in order to do that it needs to tap into the other side of the border. (The piracy of Indian films happens for a reason, after all!))

Artists of any trade have a tough time marketing their wares in hostile and intolerant environment anywhere. I especially admire the writers, artists, and entertainers of Pakistan who have negotiated that very difficult path over the decades - through the ONLY effective way that can indeed bring about positive changes - through their good work and by becoming good role models individually - all of it done while trying not to offend anybody.

A loss of great talent like this one is to be mourned by everyone who values his or her ties to those lands!

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#14 Posted by Zobariz on March 23, 2006 2:12:16 pm
Re: # 11
Thanks Ras. Its been four days now, but the pain has not subsided. I suffer for Zeba. Ridicolous and sentimental as it may sound, I wonder how did she sleep that first night he was laid to rest forever. How is she doing? I surf the web frantically in between my own classes (I teach) and find hardly anything new. No pictures (except from the BBC website), no editorials, no essays worth reading except the one in ``Jang,`` no condolance messages from people who had his unconditional support
the Bhuttos, the Sharifs and the Haqs? What`s the matter with them? But well, MA does not need them. He still rules.
My first memory of a favorite Ali movie was ``Lorie`` and then ``Insaniyat.`` I don`t remember if I ever saw ``Aag`` and ``Jaise Jante Nahi`` but I remember the beautiful stills (of AliZeb) and the wonderful music and Ahmad Rushdi`s immortal tunes ``Kar ke dil ka shisha choor/Aise bethein hai huzoor/jaise jante nahi, pehchante nahi`` and the sparkling, smiling, mischevious eyes of the man we all loved.
God bless him for bringing so much love, and joy, and happiness to so many people`s lives.





Ah those wonderful days!
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#13 Posted by MantoLives on March 23, 2006 7:22:31 am

Yes... a close friend of ZAB... also Zia .. ironic.


His best movie - if you ask me- was Khaak-o-Khoon... but then that is my take ;)


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#12 Posted by ZahraJ on March 22, 2006 9:13:50 pm
Ras - I am sorry mujhae koi mohd ali kee film yaad naheen. But like Urstruly I have seen bits and pieces of a few re-runs on PTV. I had a certain impression as a child about some of the local actors and actresses. Mohd Ali, Zeba, and Nadeem starred in decent and serious movies if I am not mistaken. I cannot forget Zeba`s bun-hairstyle with a rose-bud tucked on one side. I do remember certain styles from my childhood days but nothing more. The profile that Mohd Ali portrayed mostly symbolized a decent and sober profile. That`s the only aspect I can recollect. Despite that, death(being the end of one`s worldly presence) has to be accepted and the departed one`s soul needs to be given a farewell in a nice way.

#7 - Do you that there are options available for the truly handsome ones? You just need to knock at the right door to consult a competent cosmetologist :)
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#11 Posted by Ras on March 22, 2006 7:47:58 pm

Sorry about the hurried nature of this writing but I wanted to

send it out, mistakes and all because I thought that Pakistanis

of my generation might want to participate in this loss.

#1 Mantolives/YLH thanks for appreciating a great Pakistani who was
also a good friend of ZAB.

#2 Zobariz, such writing talent (yours) should not be hidden in a cocoon.
Please participate in CHOWK and take the pressure off other Pakistanis
(like me) who want to remember a pre-Mullah Pakistan.

#3 Love2love: Pakistani movies were quite good. If they can make such
awesome TV dramas, they can also make good movies if they have a
market!

#4 Zeena: Which was your favorite film of M. Ali?

#5, #7 Urstruly, please write Truthfully...

#6 ZahraJ: Can you share your favorite M. Ali movie with us?

$8 Ziahmed: Me Lord, Judge Sahib, Your Honor, take your pick. M. Ali
made them all famous.

#9 hasansiddiqui: How is DIL doing? I am 50 and back in school myself.
But as #2 pointed out `` Maan, mein BA mein pass ho gia`` was great for its
entertainment value in our younger days.

#10: M. Ali was quite an icon for us old folks. Your Dad had a lot of company.


The point of writing this article was to invite participation from other readers to
include their thoughts here. I do not have much time these days to interact more
often on CHOWK. But I will keep the readers here as bored as possible with my
articles without interacting.

I do not think that I can add much more to what #2 has already written. I`m just
glad that there are others out there who appreciate M. Ali and his memory.

Ras





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#10 Posted by x-entric on March 22, 2006 5:57:11 pm
Although I havent seen any of his movies,all I have seen is Omer shareef making fun of him on TV shows. But I know my dad must have been very upset at Muhammad Ali passing away.

Innah Lillah wa Innah ilaihay rajioon.
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#9 Posted by hassansiddiqi on March 22, 2006 5:11:21 pm
I love M.A. He played a college student till he was 50 years old. That`s quite a feat:) And comedians particularly Umar Sharif parody him to date which is evidence of his lasting impact on the Pakistani film industry.
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#8 Posted by ziahmed on March 22, 2006 12:16:27 pm
The man who cried out for justice and made the appeal “Your Honour” (Judge Sahib) a household word in 1970 is no more.

I thought it was Melord.
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#7 Posted by Urstruly on March 22, 2006 11:02:28 am
Re: # 6

No, I wasn`t. I turned out to be more handsome than MA and Gregory except that my eyebrows look like Mr. Spock
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#6 Posted by ZahraJ on March 22, 2006 10:46:33 am
May God rest his soul in peace.


Re: # 5
Were you successful in your antics?

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#5 Posted by Urstruly on March 22, 2006 6:17:54 am

I watched most of MA`s movies as re-runs on the PTV except some of early 80s. But even then my childhood ambition was either to become Mohammad Ali or Gregory Peck when I grew up. Mohammad Ali was one of the most masculine and handsome among the then Urdu movie heroes like Nadeem, Kamal and Wahid Murad etc. As a matter of fact I used to practice in front of mirror to imitate MA`s eyebrows which used to make perfect urdu number 8 (inverted letter ``V``) in the fit of passion.
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#4 Posted by Zeena on March 21, 2006 10:19:06 pm
Mohd Ali and Zeba were the ultimate in Pakistani film industry. I feel sad for Zeba`s big loss. May God give her strength to cope with Ali`s death, ameen
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#3 Posted by Love2love on March 21, 2006 10:14:06 pm
Timely article. Just been watching some old Pakistani films on a TV channel. Was surprized how most of them were pretty good. Far better in content than what we hail as great coming from Bollywood. We need more articles like these.
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#2 Posted by Zobariz on March 21, 2006 12:09:59 pm
Mohammad Ali`s death marks the end of our own youthful hearts
those of us who really came of age in the 70`s. Despite his histrionics, his emotional wails of ``your Honour`` ``Judge Sahib`` and the ridiculous `` Maan, mein BA mein pass ho gia`` while in his 40`s, we absolutely loved him. For us, Ali was in the class of Paul Newman and Robert Redford, in the class that Dilip Kumar belongs to, and yet he was a class unto himself.
Mohammad Ali the jewel of the golden Pakistani cinema. His marriage to beautiful Zeba, the longevity and beauty of that marriage, his public persona, his social work are testimonies that he lived a good life. He was one of the gods in the Pantheon of sub-continent`s filmdom and he will live in our pained hearts till we, the last fans, pass on.
Hang in there, Zeba Bhabhi, Samina, Irshad Bahi, and the rest of the family. Rest in peace, sweet Prince!
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