Farzana Versey March 22, 2006
#391 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2006 8:03:58 am
swarrier #384 despite what the french may think, just because a comic (Asterix) is written in french does not make it ``intellectual``. :-)
#390 Posted by mohar11 on March 26, 2006 7:06:20 am
Re: # 388 hamidm
[....for the life of me i don`t see why a head-wagging hyderabadi im gets all worked up about them ......]
Nobody does... nobody understands the stupidity of abduls from hyderabad, lucknow or ahemadbad and other god-forsaken places that these guys infest.... I guess, when you have got ummah bug up your a$$ - your brain stops working....But then that`s abdul lungi - why is the elite FV so worked up about it?....
And like you said - the so called ``occupied`` abduls of palestine have a per capita income a few times more than abduls in pakistan and India.... so why are these mofos getting so worked up?.....
[....for the life of me i don`t see why a head-wagging hyderabadi im gets all worked up about them ......]
Nobody does... nobody understands the stupidity of abduls from hyderabad, lucknow or ahemadbad and other god-forsaken places that these guys infest.... I guess, when you have got ummah bug up your a$$ - your brain stops working....But then that`s abdul lungi - why is the elite FV so worked up about it?....
And like you said - the so called ``occupied`` abduls of palestine have a per capita income a few times more than abduls in pakistan and India.... so why are these mofos getting so worked up?.....
#389 Posted by rsridhar on March 26, 2006 6:54:47 am
re:#350 by HP
HP miyan,
You are a closet mullah who has shown your true colors when u started revelling in Benaras bomb blasts.
By creating Pakistan, Jinnah rendered muslims in India into an even smaller minority, defeating the very purpose of Pakistan in the first place.
Why was it created then?
This will become clear once u see what has become of Pakistan today.
It is an Islamic state ruled by a military dictator in which feudal system thrives. That is to say: Pakistan benefits some people who would want to hold on to previleges that existed pre-1947.
You guys ofcourse know all this but pretend that Pakistan was some kind of a special creation.
Today, it is like a sore thumb sticking out. It has become a nation of jehadis. Almost all terrorists caught the world over seem to have some link to Pakistan, latest being the London bombings.
(If you claim ownership of India because you are Hindu then you are denying rights to other Indians who may have chosen to change religions for various reasons. Hindus probably were the owners of India in year 1040, but that reality had changed in the ensuing thousand years. Hindus were not the sole owners of India in 1947.)
This is the kind of intellecutal bancrupcy that exists in Paki mindset today. Everything is viewed from a religous angle.
(The fear of Hindu majority was a concern for people who lived in the Hindu Majority areas.)
Muslims in India probably outnumber muslims in Pakistan, a testimony to the fact that the very purpose of Pakistan is defeated. There is then this creation of Bangladesh (which has also become a jehadi nation: surprise! surprise!) that sounded a death knell to the Two Nation Theory.
Besides, the muslims who were in minority in UP, MP are still in minority there. That problem was not solved by creation of Pakistan. Also, what have the muslims in Pak really accomplished. At least, Shias and Sunnis do not kill each other in India as they do regularly in Pakistan and Ahmediyas have equal rights (that is denied in Pakistan). Minorities in India (sikhs, parsees, christians, jains etc) have prospered. All except muslims who have been policital victims of partition.
Having said this, i would hasten to add that creation of Pakistan was a good thing (thouth not logical thing) for India. Pakistan has become a nation of jehadis, fritting away its energies in the wrong direction. Imagine if Pak were still a part of India. India would then have become a hotbed of jehad and would be seeing large scale hindu-muslim riots.
Indeed, creation of Pakistan was like cutting way a diseased appendix, knowing fully well that the appendix would one day become gangrenous. Today, the world knows that the appendix has become gangrenous. IT is time for the world community to put an end to this misery called Pakistan and heave a sigh of relief.
Sridhar
HP miyan,
You are a closet mullah who has shown your true colors when u started revelling in Benaras bomb blasts.
By creating Pakistan, Jinnah rendered muslims in India into an even smaller minority, defeating the very purpose of Pakistan in the first place.
Why was it created then?
This will become clear once u see what has become of Pakistan today.
It is an Islamic state ruled by a military dictator in which feudal system thrives. That is to say: Pakistan benefits some people who would want to hold on to previleges that existed pre-1947.
You guys ofcourse know all this but pretend that Pakistan was some kind of a special creation.
Today, it is like a sore thumb sticking out. It has become a nation of jehadis. Almost all terrorists caught the world over seem to have some link to Pakistan, latest being the London bombings.
(If you claim ownership of India because you are Hindu then you are denying rights to other Indians who may have chosen to change religions for various reasons. Hindus probably were the owners of India in year 1040, but that reality had changed in the ensuing thousand years. Hindus were not the sole owners of India in 1947.)
This is the kind of intellecutal bancrupcy that exists in Paki mindset today. Everything is viewed from a religous angle.
(The fear of Hindu majority was a concern for people who lived in the Hindu Majority areas.)
Muslims in India probably outnumber muslims in Pakistan, a testimony to the fact that the very purpose of Pakistan is defeated. There is then this creation of Bangladesh (which has also become a jehadi nation: surprise! surprise!) that sounded a death knell to the Two Nation Theory.
Besides, the muslims who were in minority in UP, MP are still in minority there. That problem was not solved by creation of Pakistan. Also, what have the muslims in Pak really accomplished. At least, Shias and Sunnis do not kill each other in India as they do regularly in Pakistan and Ahmediyas have equal rights (that is denied in Pakistan). Minorities in India (sikhs, parsees, christians, jains etc) have prospered. All except muslims who have been policital victims of partition.
Having said this, i would hasten to add that creation of Pakistan was a good thing (thouth not logical thing) for India. Pakistan has become a nation of jehadis, fritting away its energies in the wrong direction. Imagine if Pak were still a part of India. India would then have become a hotbed of jehad and would be seeing large scale hindu-muslim riots.
Indeed, creation of Pakistan was like cutting way a diseased appendix, knowing fully well that the appendix would one day become gangrenous. Today, the world knows that the appendix has become gangrenous. IT is time for the world community to put an end to this misery called Pakistan and heave a sigh of relief.
Sridhar
#388 Posted by hamidm2 on March 26, 2006 6:45:24 am
why do pakis and indian muslims get so worked up about jews and palestinians ........
........ when most of them have enough troubles of their own ............ personally, it is very difficult for me to get excited about palestine ....... i have barely enough compassion and passion for one cause - kashmir - which by all accounts is not going too well either ......... now, as far as i can tell from watching tv, the palestinians are much better fed and clothed than the unwashed masses that sleep on the sidewalks of bombay and karachi and then get up to watch the sunrise as they squat on the railroad tracks ......... it sounds romantic, but they tell me that, once in a while, they get run over by train and it is not a pretty sight ..........
......... having said that, it is true that the jewish lobby has done a wonderful job of pr - to the point that any criticism of israel is quickly denounced and rubbished as anti-semitism ....... but it is also true that a large number of god fearing christian americans are still virulently anti-semitic .......... and i am not talking about bubba with bad teeth sitting on his porch in kentucky whittlin on a piece of wood .... i am talking about tofu eating ivy-league types with perfect dental care - all it takes is three drinks to get somone to call carl ichan a `` m** f**in jew-boy!`` .... okay, carl is a bad example - his own mother would probably call him that - but the point is still valid ..........
........ given this underlying strain of anti-semitism the jewish community has to be vigilant if they want to prevent another holocaust at the hands of the followers of jesus - a delusional man they supposedly murdered ........ and if that wasn`t enough, a billion hate filled suicidal followers of another delusional man, muhammad, have decided to cast them as the ``enemy`` ............ now, i can understand the palestinians being upset at the jewish people, but for the life of me i don`t see why a head-wagging hyderabadi im gets all worked up about them ......... maybe he feels it is safer than getting worked up about kashmir and getting whacked by his horrible hindoo neighbors ........ but then im`s are a strange lot - a lot stranger than the clueless pakis who are still trying to figure out which way is up ............. i give up
#387 Posted by Passerby on March 26, 2006 5:42:05 am
Re: tahmed # 308
This is the last thing i`m going to say on this thread, so you know where i`m coming from on future discussion threads if at all i do post. look, as far as i`m concerned, the dirt has been coming from your camp, so lets not point fingers over here, its a two way street. I came here to put across a point of view on the topic being discussed, ie Farzana`s article, maybe those views are too generalised, maybe they are hardcore, i don`t know, but whatever they might be, they will never involve childish personal ridicule because 1. its a complete waste of time and 2. it takes away from the purpose of the discussion thread. And i feel, if people just ask whovever to keep the posts relevant to the topic of discussion things should be just fine, this cesspool could yet be turned into a clean little pond.
This is the last thing i`m going to say on this thread, so you know where i`m coming from on future discussion threads if at all i do post. look, as far as i`m concerned, the dirt has been coming from your camp, so lets not point fingers over here, its a two way street. I came here to put across a point of view on the topic being discussed, ie Farzana`s article, maybe those views are too generalised, maybe they are hardcore, i don`t know, but whatever they might be, they will never involve childish personal ridicule because 1. its a complete waste of time and 2. it takes away from the purpose of the discussion thread. And i feel, if people just ask whovever to keep the posts relevant to the topic of discussion things should be just fine, this cesspool could yet be turned into a clean little pond.
#386 Posted by einsteinwallah on March 26, 2006 5:27:03 am
#345 by bjkumar
Thanks for this cut-and-paste. I am an atheist. But sochtaa hu.n mein agar dua maangtaa aaj apne khudaa sey mein kyaa mangtaa. May IMs never suffer such fate in India as Jews suffered. May be things will never be so bad in India hopefully. May be there will always be people who will be strong enough to stand up and say ``no``. Actually the fact that it did happen in Germany where voice of conscience remained mute is quite disturbing. What special qualification Indians have? What special ability to stand up is there in Indians? That is why large number of conscientious IMs should publicly speak against terrorist attacks.
Thanks for this cut-and-paste. I am an atheist. But sochtaa hu.n mein agar dua maangtaa aaj apne khudaa sey mein kyaa mangtaa. May IMs never suffer such fate in India as Jews suffered. May be things will never be so bad in India hopefully. May be there will always be people who will be strong enough to stand up and say ``no``. Actually the fact that it did happen in Germany where voice of conscience remained mute is quite disturbing. What special qualification Indians have? What special ability to stand up is there in Indians? That is why large number of conscientious IMs should publicly speak against terrorist attacks.
#385 Posted by bjkumar on March 26, 2006 4:34:26 am
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#384 Posted by swarrier on March 26, 2006 4:11:30 am
Re: # 381
[Intellectuals dont read comic books, zeemax. Next time please take characters out of Tolstoy`s War and Peace. :-)]
Actually in the old Mandrake comics there was a character called Mad Dog Dill. Khalid_Ahmed, Behram etc seemed to be like that. Somebody had to gesture hypnotically to banish them it seems.
All intellectuals should read Tintin and Asterix. There is much to be learnt from it.
Otherwise you would be left with caricatures like Shylock, Othello ...
[Intellectuals dont read comic books, zeemax. Next time please take characters out of Tolstoy`s War and Peace. :-)]
Actually in the old Mandrake comics there was a character called Mad Dog Dill. Khalid_Ahmed, Behram etc seemed to be like that. Somebody had to gesture hypnotically to banish them it seems.
All intellectuals should read Tintin and Asterix. There is much to be learnt from it.
Otherwise you would be left with caricatures like Shylock, Othello ...
#383 Posted by bjkumar on March 26, 2006 4:10:29 am
#374 ballukhan
Thanks for the explanation.
Sorry I was harsh on you in one of my previous posts.
#382 Posted by einsteinwallah on March 26, 2006 3:31:22 am
Zeena, You should not type any vowels, spaces, commas, stops, question marks etc in your interacts. We will just know that you do not wish to be understood. Same advice can be given to a lot of Paki interactors and writers here. Or, better still just do not bother writing interacts. It is so much better. No hard work of typing, spellcheck, thinking etc etc. You will save your time and other people`s time.
#381 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2006 3:03:41 am
zeemax #378 Intellectuals dont read comic books, zeemax. Next time please take characters out of Tolstoy`s War and Peace. :-)
#380 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2006 3:01:00 am
kumar sahib: with all due respect to your immaturity, you reaction was as predictable as that of any other single-track indian.
#379 Posted by antihypochrist on March 26, 2006 2:15:21 am
Read few lines despite knowing that the author is the same lady who supported Taleban, supported the destruction of the Buddha statues, questioned Kashmiri Pandits moving out of Kashmir...and then realized, she is being consistent here spouting some nonsense about Jews
#378 Posted by zeemax on March 26, 2006 1:46:23 am
Just wondering how the Archie comic characters would apply to Chowkies:
Archie = mannyd, tahmed32, Arjun_M, Salim_Chauhan
Veronica = Farzana Versey
Jughead = hamidm2
Betty = Zeena
Reggie Mantle = mohar11, rsridhar, kaalchakra, etc etc.
Big Moose = Ramanujan, Kalid_Ahmad (deceased).
Midge = Sadna.
Dilton Doiley = SR.
Big Ethel = ZahraJ
Mrs. Hagley = saminasha.
Mr. Weatherbee = Mantolives, Urstruly.
Coach Clayton = Dost_Mittar
Hot Dog = Soysauce
Pop Tate = Zeemax
Feel free to suggest changes. List is not final yet :-)
Archie = mannyd, tahmed32, Arjun_M, Salim_Chauhan
Veronica = Farzana Versey
Jughead = hamidm2
Betty = Zeena
Reggie Mantle = mohar11, rsridhar, kaalchakra, etc etc.
Big Moose = Ramanujan, Kalid_Ahmad (deceased).
Midge = Sadna.
Dilton Doiley = SR.
Big Ethel = ZahraJ
Mrs. Hagley = saminasha.
Mr. Weatherbee = Mantolives, Urstruly.
Coach Clayton = Dost_Mittar
Hot Dog = Soysauce
Pop Tate = Zeemax
Feel free to suggest changes. List is not final yet :-)
#377 Posted by FarzanaVersey on March 26, 2006 12:51:51 am
Re: # 358:
Aap itney laal-peele kyon ho rahe hai? I have always been civil in my discourses with people here; an expressed viewpoint about a subject may be deemed `controversial` depending on where you are situated with regard to it. I do not care about how much goodness is there is the `soul` of people here...cheekh tau woh rahe hai, agar aapko hamari awaaz hi sunayee de rahi hai tau hum kya karein?
And since you have dragged Mir in...
``Qaafile mein subah ke ek shor hai
Yaani ghaafil ham chale sota hai kya`` :)
PS: I was just clarifying my position vis-a-vis civility; no more discussion on this from me....
Aap itney laal-peele kyon ho rahe hai? I have always been civil in my discourses with people here; an expressed viewpoint about a subject may be deemed `controversial` depending on where you are situated with regard to it. I do not care about how much goodness is there is the `soul` of people here...cheekh tau woh rahe hai, agar aapko hamari awaaz hi sunayee de rahi hai tau hum kya karein?
And since you have dragged Mir in...
``Qaafile mein subah ke ek shor hai
Yaani ghaafil ham chale sota hai kya`` :)
PS: I was just clarifying my position vis-a-vis civility; no more discussion on this from me....
#376 Posted by Zeena on March 26, 2006 12:27:15 am
#373 zeemax
If, my posts and my style of writing confuses your smarter mind and sharp intellect and if, my posts are burden on your mind, then I have one very sincere advice for you, which is quite not cynical,`` please, zeemax sir jii, do not read my confused posts with out paragraphs. This is my style. I am not gonna change my style for you at all, neither I will ask you to change your style for me,either. This is my own self creation which is different than all of you on this board, I will always keep my identity DIFFERENT than all of you guys. I LOVE my STYLE of writing and I DON`T want to follow all of you guys BLINDLY. I am MYSELF, I will be MYSELF and I was always MYSELF. I WILL NOT BE THE PART OF THIS RAT RACE. My strategy and my PHILOSOPHY are quite DIFFERENT than rest of you right over there. My IDEOLOGY is absolutely NOT based on STEREOTYPE , my ideology is based on my own heart, soul and mind, purely coming from the core of my heart, soul and mind.So, leave my ideology alone. Thanks
zeemax jii
You are calling me cynic ?? based on what?
{{That is the question you should ask ZeenaJi. Not become a cynic and blame it to fate and/or the evil empires... and let it rest at that. There`s always an answer to everything}}}
zeemax jii
You know what , either stop TWISTING or CONVOLUTING my posts accroding to your own mind to make FALSE assumptions about me OR stop responding or stop reading my posts at all. I do not APPRECIATE anyone twisting my ideology or MISINTERPRETING me. Nothing pisses me,but, such misinterpretations of my posts with out giving a second thought. I already requested you to read my posts clearly. If, you can not understand my ideology or you are, too SMART for my posts. Just IGNORE them,but, please, pretty please, do not mis represent them. Nothing makes me more mad than ,if, someone with out understanding my simple English start assuming false things about me. This is absolutely NOT fair for me and also not for your own precious time. If, you will continue such kind of interactions with me. Then, SORRY I have to stop responding you or I will IGNORE YOU. I hope you will decide the best for your precious time NOT to waste on my posts and upon interacting with me.
zeemax jii
Again, for your peace of mind. I never blame fate for anything at all. To blame fate is not me.Rather I believe in smart strategy like Jewish strategy. I believe in hard work and smart way of actions. I never BLAME on evil empires. There is nothing evil. All is power and strategy . I never even blame on GOD as well. Yes, I blame on humans own actions. We humans are responsible for our own good or bad actions or smart or stupid actions, NOT fate.
Tell me which is the post where I sounded CYNIC. Rather you sound CYNIC to me. Honestly, You are persistently BLAMING me , twisting my ideology , falsely accusing me for NOTHING. You are the one cynical here for stalking me post to post. Well, it is quite apparent that I am not INTERESTED in interacting with you for being CYNICAL and for being NOT TRUE about me.
PS:- Just one last request, do not waste your precious time on reading my posts, if, they appear cynical to you. If I am writing black, you are seeing it in white. Is it my fault or is it your own defective color perception?? Just change your eye glasses and then read my posts. You will see with clear vision of nonbiasedness and not being cynical........................Now, do not prolong this interaction. Spend your time with other interactions which are more of your type. Thank you for last interaction.
If, my posts and my style of writing confuses your smarter mind and sharp intellect and if, my posts are burden on your mind, then I have one very sincere advice for you, which is quite not cynical,`` please, zeemax sir jii, do not read my confused posts with out paragraphs. This is my style. I am not gonna change my style for you at all, neither I will ask you to change your style for me,either. This is my own self creation which is different than all of you on this board, I will always keep my identity DIFFERENT than all of you guys. I LOVE my STYLE of writing and I DON`T want to follow all of you guys BLINDLY. I am MYSELF, I will be MYSELF and I was always MYSELF. I WILL NOT BE THE PART OF THIS RAT RACE. My strategy and my PHILOSOPHY are quite DIFFERENT than rest of you right over there. My IDEOLOGY is absolutely NOT based on STEREOTYPE , my ideology is based on my own heart, soul and mind, purely coming from the core of my heart, soul and mind.So, leave my ideology alone. Thanks
zeemax jii
You are calling me cynic ?? based on what?
{{That is the question you should ask ZeenaJi. Not become a cynic and blame it to fate and/or the evil empires... and let it rest at that. There`s always an answer to everything}}}
zeemax jii
You know what , either stop TWISTING or CONVOLUTING my posts accroding to your own mind to make FALSE assumptions about me OR stop responding or stop reading my posts at all. I do not APPRECIATE anyone twisting my ideology or MISINTERPRETING me. Nothing pisses me,but, such misinterpretations of my posts with out giving a second thought. I already requested you to read my posts clearly. If, you can not understand my ideology or you are, too SMART for my posts. Just IGNORE them,but, please, pretty please, do not mis represent them. Nothing makes me more mad than ,if, someone with out understanding my simple English start assuming false things about me. This is absolutely NOT fair for me and also not for your own precious time. If, you will continue such kind of interactions with me. Then, SORRY I have to stop responding you or I will IGNORE YOU. I hope you will decide the best for your precious time NOT to waste on my posts and upon interacting with me.
zeemax jii
Again, for your peace of mind. I never blame fate for anything at all. To blame fate is not me.Rather I believe in smart strategy like Jewish strategy. I believe in hard work and smart way of actions. I never BLAME on evil empires. There is nothing evil. All is power and strategy . I never even blame on GOD as well. Yes, I blame on humans own actions. We humans are responsible for our own good or bad actions or smart or stupid actions, NOT fate.
Tell me which is the post where I sounded CYNIC. Rather you sound CYNIC to me. Honestly, You are persistently BLAMING me , twisting my ideology , falsely accusing me for NOTHING. You are the one cynical here for stalking me post to post. Well, it is quite apparent that I am not INTERESTED in interacting with you for being CYNICAL and for being NOT TRUE about me.
PS:- Just one last request, do not waste your precious time on reading my posts, if, they appear cynical to you. If I am writing black, you are seeing it in white. Is it my fault or is it your own defective color perception?? Just change your eye glasses and then read my posts. You will see with clear vision of nonbiasedness and not being cynical........................Now, do not prolong this interaction. Spend your time with other interactions which are more of your type. Thank you for last interaction.
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