Farzana Versey March 22, 2006
#81 Posted by ballukhan on March 23, 2006 12:03:32 am
Re: # 80
Excellent Zeena..............you have been more forthright than the author of this article.....................
Excellent Zeena..............you have been more forthright than the author of this article.....................
#82 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2006 1:05:07 am
#79 by Zeena Bhabi
Tipu Sultan was also stupid to say,`` give me one day of life with freedom and take away my 100 years of life with slavery.``
Do you say that because Jews accepted slavery and persecution instead of resisting? Again it`s like comparing Apples and Oranges. Jews believe .. I mean really believe in their being the `chosen` people, and that their persecution and slavery was all foretold in their ancient scriptures. Their persecution was inevitable and they know it ... but they also know it was also foretold that they will remain a great nation nevertheless. Jews actually ACCEPT persecution as quite normal in their case till their SAVIOUR arrives.
Tipu Sultan on the other hand was a Muslim. There`s no Saviour for Muslims remember? So Muslims prefer death over submission and to let God decide in the end because no Saviour is going to arrive in their case. So no use waiting patiently and working hard and building PR and useless stuff like that.
Tipu Sultan was also stupid to say,`` give me one day of life with freedom and take away my 100 years of life with slavery.``
Do you say that because Jews accepted slavery and persecution instead of resisting? Again it`s like comparing Apples and Oranges. Jews believe .. I mean really believe in their being the `chosen` people, and that their persecution and slavery was all foretold in their ancient scriptures. Their persecution was inevitable and they know it ... but they also know it was also foretold that they will remain a great nation nevertheless. Jews actually ACCEPT persecution as quite normal in their case till their SAVIOUR arrives.
Tipu Sultan on the other hand was a Muslim. There`s no Saviour for Muslims remember? So Muslims prefer death over submission and to let God decide in the end because no Saviour is going to arrive in their case. So no use waiting patiently and working hard and building PR and useless stuff like that.
#83 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 1:23:41 am
Re: 78 by Zeena
I didn`t know women could froth so much at their mouths, but then Islam has known to cause much worse outbursts in humans.
Muslims had occupied holy lands of the jews, had built mosques after destroying their synagogues and had made jews` own land inhospitable for them causing them to be driven to Europe and as far as East India. But now that they have come back to their original homes, the bigoted muslims don`t want to return a small tiny bit of the middle eastern land to the deserving jews.
Have you Zeena even looked at a world map? Israel,a teeny weeny nation surrounded on all sides by the worst species of humans undeservedly occupying large swathes of land, is perhaps the most insecure place in the planet. With palestinian women exhorting their suckling babies to become human bombs on one side, to the most uncivilized bedoins, to ayotollahs, and even a far away ummah leading schizophreniac Pakistan on the other sides, survival is a day to day accomplishment for the jews.
Still undeterred by the scum around them, like a lotus in a pond of filth, they have raised the bars of human possibility and endeavor to the greatest heights, pioneering and exceling in all kafir forms of intellectual achievement. Producing Einstein after Einstein while the muslims are busy inventing a way to smuggle the next WMD the Jews have taken the purpose of human existance to where Allah desired it to be.
Now they are showing the world how to deal with the menace of islam. Muslims, having taken advantage of the civilized human`s weakness for peace, freedom, prosperity and democracy have been mounting more and more brazen attacks. The civilized world could never do to the muslims what the muslims do to them, so they have been sorry victims.
The muslims embolded by this cowardly bravado, and past memories of swordsmanship are having Jenabi dreams of civilizational domination. But by showing that the only language understood by the muslims is their own violent language of Mohammed, the Jews are opening new fronts in this win-win battle. By sending the jihadis to their favorite 72 whories, Jews are doing as much favor to the muslims as they are doing to humankind.
Here`s a suggestion: Both Israel and Pakistan were formed at the same time justifying religion-based homelands. How about Pakistani and Israelis swap places on the map? The Pakis are always dreaming of a better neighbor and would like to be among their own inferior Arabs. India and Israel get along just fine. The whole world will be a more peaceful place. Let palestine also get a taste of paki neighbourliness.
I didn`t know women could froth so much at their mouths, but then Islam has known to cause much worse outbursts in humans.
Muslims had occupied holy lands of the jews, had built mosques after destroying their synagogues and had made jews` own land inhospitable for them causing them to be driven to Europe and as far as East India. But now that they have come back to their original homes, the bigoted muslims don`t want to return a small tiny bit of the middle eastern land to the deserving jews.
Have you Zeena even looked at a world map? Israel,a teeny weeny nation surrounded on all sides by the worst species of humans undeservedly occupying large swathes of land, is perhaps the most insecure place in the planet. With palestinian women exhorting their suckling babies to become human bombs on one side, to the most uncivilized bedoins, to ayotollahs, and even a far away ummah leading schizophreniac Pakistan on the other sides, survival is a day to day accomplishment for the jews.
Still undeterred by the scum around them, like a lotus in a pond of filth, they have raised the bars of human possibility and endeavor to the greatest heights, pioneering and exceling in all kafir forms of intellectual achievement. Producing Einstein after Einstein while the muslims are busy inventing a way to smuggle the next WMD the Jews have taken the purpose of human existance to where Allah desired it to be.
Now they are showing the world how to deal with the menace of islam. Muslims, having taken advantage of the civilized human`s weakness for peace, freedom, prosperity and democracy have been mounting more and more brazen attacks. The civilized world could never do to the muslims what the muslims do to them, so they have been sorry victims.
The muslims embolded by this cowardly bravado, and past memories of swordsmanship are having Jenabi dreams of civilizational domination. But by showing that the only language understood by the muslims is their own violent language of Mohammed, the Jews are opening new fronts in this win-win battle. By sending the jihadis to their favorite 72 whories, Jews are doing as much favor to the muslims as they are doing to humankind.
Here`s a suggestion: Both Israel and Pakistan were formed at the same time justifying religion-based homelands. How about Pakistani and Israelis swap places on the map? The Pakis are always dreaming of a better neighbor and would like to be among their own inferior Arabs. India and Israel get along just fine. The whole world will be a more peaceful place. Let palestine also get a taste of paki neighbourliness.
#84 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2006 2:08:14 am
#83 by khalid_ahmad
Yaar Khalid Bibi Sadna
How about Pakistani and Israelis swap places on the map?
What an excellent idea. I mean it. Why hadn`t anyone thought of it before? Just a little problem ... how would 150 million of Jehadi Pakis fit into that hot-dog shaped and sized sliver of a land? But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places. But Israel is so small .. maybe reducing Paki population is the solution .. hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?
Yaar Khalid Bibi Sadna
How about Pakistani and Israelis swap places on the map?
What an excellent idea. I mean it. Why hadn`t anyone thought of it before? Just a little problem ... how would 150 million of Jehadi Pakis fit into that hot-dog shaped and sized sliver of a land? But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places. But Israel is so small .. maybe reducing Paki population is the solution .. hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?
#85 Posted by kaptain on March 23, 2006 2:09:49 am
[you need to have a cohesive and committed community to create such an indelible image.] - the crux of all.
The Indians in the Middle East have something of the same formation which has curtained their disabilities which are common with the people of the third world a.k.a - illiteracy..unemployment..population..etc. to an extent that the community now brims with flags of success after their presence and endeavour of 20-25 years.
The Indian community has come of age..with planned outlook uniform for the community.
[There is a lesson in this for the Muslims to acquire the two ‘P’s: public relations and a good dose of persecution.] - excuse me..??
Public relations..for Muslims..?? excuse me again..??
dose of persecution..?? well they have grown immune..to this..call this a development or irreverence..but they are to be in this slumber for quite some more time..
Period..
The Indians in the Middle East have something of the same formation which has curtained their disabilities which are common with the people of the third world a.k.a - illiteracy..unemployment..population..etc. to an extent that the community now brims with flags of success after their presence and endeavour of 20-25 years.
The Indian community has come of age..with planned outlook uniform for the community.
[There is a lesson in this for the Muslims to acquire the two ‘P’s: public relations and a good dose of persecution.] - excuse me..??
Public relations..for Muslims..?? excuse me again..??
dose of persecution..?? well they have grown immune..to this..call this a development or irreverence..but they are to be in this slumber for quite some more time..
Period..
#86 Posted by harish_hyd on March 23, 2006 2:17:10 am
#84 by zeemax
[But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places.]
Yaar Zee, for all the talk about Islam being the binding force among Muslims, I`ve seen first hand how Pakis are treated in the Gulf. The first time I saw such treatment, I was shocked, but got used to it in time. I`m 200% sure the Arabs wouldn`t want Pakistan anywhere near them.
[But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places.]
Yaar Zee, for all the talk about Islam being the binding force among Muslims, I`ve seen first hand how Pakis are treated in the Gulf. The first time I saw such treatment, I was shocked, but got used to it in time. I`m 200% sure the Arabs wouldn`t want Pakistan anywhere near them.
#87 Posted by Passerby on March 23, 2006 2:23:51 am
Re: # 83
Could not have put it more accurately.
As for Farzana, when you have been one of the biggest persecutors in the history of human civilization, and the whole world knows about it, theres not much PR you can do. And trying to act like you have been the persecuted, will only make you look like one of those those extremly vile villain characters in those masala hindi movies usually played by shakti kapoor. (you know the ones where the villain pretends to be all innocent when hes in a weak position but does a 180 degree turnaround the very second hes back in the drivers seat.)
Its a real shame that educated and progressive people like yourself, instead of giving proper guidance to your community, are writing articles like this, pointing them in the exact opposite direction, a little like what Jinnah did back in the 40s, why does the educated muslim class always behave this way?
Could not have put it more accurately.
As for Farzana, when you have been one of the biggest persecutors in the history of human civilization, and the whole world knows about it, theres not much PR you can do. And trying to act like you have been the persecuted, will only make you look like one of those those extremly vile villain characters in those masala hindi movies usually played by shakti kapoor. (you know the ones where the villain pretends to be all innocent when hes in a weak position but does a 180 degree turnaround the very second hes back in the drivers seat.)
Its a real shame that educated and progressive people like yourself, instead of giving proper guidance to your community, are writing articles like this, pointing them in the exact opposite direction, a little like what Jinnah did back in the 40s, why does the educated muslim class always behave this way?
#88 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2006 2:58:39 am
Ref zeemax #84
[...Just a little problem ... how would 150 million of Jehadi Pakis fit into that hot-dog shaped and sized sliver of a land? But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places. But Israel is so small .. maybe reducing Paki population is the solution .. hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?]
No need for that. Let Pakistanis be good Muslims and not take any medications nor any vaccinations invented after Prophet Mohammad`s death. In particular, let them not use any vaccinations invented by Jewish scientists. That would ensure that they retain their Islamic purity while simultaneously reaching jannat before they reach the age of 2.
[...Just a little problem ... how would 150 million of Jehadi Pakis fit into that hot-dog shaped and sized sliver of a land? But certainly, Pakistanis with their assumed arab identity (and abandoned south asian one) do not belong in this area at all, no more than the European Jews settled in the midst of arabs. It would be indeed good to swap places. But Israel is so small .. maybe reducing Paki population is the solution .. hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?]
No need for that. Let Pakistanis be good Muslims and not take any medications nor any vaccinations invented after Prophet Mohammad`s death. In particular, let them not use any vaccinations invented by Jewish scientists. That would ensure that they retain their Islamic purity while simultaneously reaching jannat before they reach the age of 2.
#89 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2006 3:05:25 am
Ref parthaab #3
[Btw, I wonder what intolerance would look like?]
West Bengal.
Tibet and Sinkiang under China.
Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, in that order.
[Btw, I wonder what intolerance would look like?]
West Bengal.
Tibet and Sinkiang under China.
Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, in that order.
#90 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2006 3:43:14 am
Ref parthaab #66
[Its funny how India is never seen as a Hindu state with the bomb, is nt it, even after Gujarat 2002, Bombay 1992 Delhi 1984 and the pathetic state of minority rights in India, not to speak of its religiously biased policy whether in Kashmir or Pakistan.]
Anytime you don`t like being a Hindu, you have an option. In fact, in India you have several options.
The local mullah is sharpening his trusty knife. All you need to do is lay your dick on the table. Voila, you are no longer a Hindu!
[Its funny how India is never seen as a Hindu state with the bomb, is nt it, even after Gujarat 2002, Bombay 1992 Delhi 1984 and the pathetic state of minority rights in India, not to speak of its religiously biased policy whether in Kashmir or Pakistan.]
Anytime you don`t like being a Hindu, you have an option. In fact, in India you have several options.
The local mullah is sharpening his trusty knife. All you need to do is lay your dick on the table. Voila, you are no longer a Hindu!
#91 Posted by zeemax on March 23, 2006 4:23:10 am
#86 by harish_hyd/#88 by harimau
So after all this issue is all about mistaken identity. They`ll come around ... there`s no other way .. you will see. And, they will prevail in South Asia .. they do have the necessary ingredients mind you ... once they discard the hypocrisies and all the false cloaks they wear. This is a nation full of yet unrealized and pitifully stifled potential.
So after all this issue is all about mistaken identity. They`ll come around ... there`s no other way .. you will see. And, they will prevail in South Asia .. they do have the necessary ingredients mind you ... once they discard the hypocrisies and all the false cloaks they wear. This is a nation full of yet unrealized and pitifully stifled potential.
#92 Posted by tahmed32 on March 23, 2006 4:44:09 am
#74 hassansiddiqui: Thanks for the clarification. :-)
I would suggest taking the next step forward and dropping the ``P for Power`` altogether.
Thus, instead of a ``Powerful Economy``, lets talk about a ``Productive Economy``.
Instead of a ``Powerful Democracy``, lets talk about a ``Peaceful Democracy``.
And lets leave some room for ``Proper Education``
This way, we replace the three bad ``P``s , i.e. the whiny ``Persecution`` P, and the pathetially superficial ``Public Relations`` P from Ferzana, along with the ``Power`` P that you mentioned, with the two good ``P``s , i.e. the ``Productive`` P and the ``Peaceful`` P.
PS: btw, Ferzana`s ``Persecution`` P is already ``P for Practiced`` by mullah every friday when they start ``P for Pining`` about ``P for Palestine`` while strangely silent about the suffering of the africans in ``D for Darfur`` being caused in the name of Islam.
I would suggest taking the next step forward and dropping the ``P for Power`` altogether.
Thus, instead of a ``Powerful Economy``, lets talk about a ``Productive Economy``.
Instead of a ``Powerful Democracy``, lets talk about a ``Peaceful Democracy``.
And lets leave some room for ``Proper Education``
This way, we replace the three bad ``P``s , i.e. the whiny ``Persecution`` P, and the pathetially superficial ``Public Relations`` P from Ferzana, along with the ``Power`` P that you mentioned, with the two good ``P``s , i.e. the ``Productive`` P and the ``Peaceful`` P.
PS: btw, Ferzana`s ``Persecution`` P is already ``P for Practiced`` by mullah every friday when they start ``P for Pining`` about ``P for Palestine`` while strangely silent about the suffering of the africans in ``D for Darfur`` being caused in the name of Islam.
#93 Posted by tahmed32 on March 23, 2006 4:46:52 am
on #93 i forgot the ``third good ``P`` , namely the ``Proper Education`` P.
so we have in fact an even trade - three good ``P``s instead of three bad ``P``s.
so we have in fact an even trade - three good ``P``s instead of three bad ``P``s.
#94 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 5:07:35 am
Re: 84 by Zeemax
[hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?]
Pakis are doing a fine job of it themselves:
- Friday jihadfests between Shias and Sunnis
- Pak Army killing its own Mazaris and Wazaris
- Condoms brought by Mush from China
- Sindhis and Pakhtuns looking for their own free lands
- Paki Army running away so fast from the Bhindians that most are already west of Israel.
With all this happening, it will take only a few plane loads. The baki pakis will fit into Israel fine with lottsa room to spare for the hamas.
[hey how about attacking Pak and reducing the population so it can fit in that sliver of land?]
Pakis are doing a fine job of it themselves:
- Friday jihadfests between Shias and Sunnis
- Pak Army killing its own Mazaris and Wazaris
- Condoms brought by Mush from China
- Sindhis and Pakhtuns looking for their own free lands
- Paki Army running away so fast from the Bhindians that most are already west of Israel.
With all this happening, it will take only a few plane loads. The baki pakis will fit into Israel fine with lottsa room to spare for the hamas.
#95 Posted by FarzanaVersey on March 23, 2006 5:40:42 am
I don’t know about shaking trees and all that, but why are Hindus getting so incensed?
#8, #33 by Inquirer:
[Hence, have not the Hindus passed the test as they granted political and social equality to Muslims even though India was divided by Muslims` insistence on separate land for the Muslims?]
Read up more on the Partition. And what the Muslim League wants is not what the Muslims want…
[We need more Muslims like Ballukhan and Salim Chauhan - great last name for a Muslim!]
If this is not patronising, then what is? Why do you guys always have to decide what kind of Muslims you need? Do you see IMs telling you what kind of Hindus/Christians/Buddhists we need? Chauhan may not even be his name; he is Pakistani (which when a Hindu says is okay, it has got to be okay) and Ballukhan is a nickname – we still do not know what he is. He has just commended a post (#78) that takes pot-shots at Jews…go figure!
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#32 by jang:
[in summary..why is bombay underworld dominated by muslim dons? because they lack the jewish PR machine.]
Also, they do not know how to work the ‘persecution complex’. Do you know if Kissinger is available for some bhaigiri?
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#30 by ballukhan:
[.............................and before we ask about the publicity thing...........OBL and his gang are on a publicity blitz..................can you try and stop them before you think about hiring another publicity manager??]
Wow, OBL is on a PR blitz…surely the target is not the Arabs, because you do not need PR to speak to the converted. So, they are targeting the West. Why is it in rapt attention? Why are they not stopping him? Why do they sit and watch his home videos AND air them for the world?
I need no publicity manager; they just read my lips and form their own words…
More coming up…
#8, #33 by Inquirer:
[Hence, have not the Hindus passed the test as they granted political and social equality to Muslims even though India was divided by Muslims` insistence on separate land for the Muslims?]
Read up more on the Partition. And what the Muslim League wants is not what the Muslims want…
[We need more Muslims like Ballukhan and Salim Chauhan - great last name for a Muslim!]
If this is not patronising, then what is? Why do you guys always have to decide what kind of Muslims you need? Do you see IMs telling you what kind of Hindus/Christians/Buddhists we need? Chauhan may not even be his name; he is Pakistani (which when a Hindu says is okay, it has got to be okay) and Ballukhan is a nickname – we still do not know what he is. He has just commended a post (#78) that takes pot-shots at Jews…go figure!
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#32 by jang:
[in summary..why is bombay underworld dominated by muslim dons? because they lack the jewish PR machine.]
Also, they do not know how to work the ‘persecution complex’. Do you know if Kissinger is available for some bhaigiri?
- - -
#30 by ballukhan:
[.............................and before we ask about the publicity thing...........OBL and his gang are on a publicity blitz..................can you try and stop them before you think about hiring another publicity manager??]
Wow, OBL is on a PR blitz…surely the target is not the Arabs, because you do not need PR to speak to the converted. So, they are targeting the West. Why is it in rapt attention? Why are they not stopping him? Why do they sit and watch his home videos AND air them for the world?
I need no publicity manager; they just read my lips and form their own words…
More coming up…
#96 Posted by arjun_m on March 23, 2006 5:51:03 am
#78 by Zeena on March 22, 2006 10:08pm PT
They are great, got slaughtered by Germans and now in return they have every right to slaughter barbaric Muslims.
If there was any doubt that you are retarded, you`ve removed it....
They are great, got slaughtered by Germans and now in return they have every right to slaughter barbaric Muslims.
If there was any doubt that you are retarded, you`ve removed it....
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