The Reality of the Looking Glass: Seeing Muhammad

{{{{#78 by ahmadzai on April 12, 2006 7:11am PT
I would like to express my regrets on two interactors that I hold in highest regard viz. Monto and Zeena to very carelessly equate Deobandi school of thought with Al Qaidah and Wahabism.

I am utterly disappointed to see that the two very learned interactors have opted to fall into the trap that has been laid by the powers that be to divide the Muslims.

While as a Deobandi, I am totally against pompous overly gaudy showing of respect for our Holy Prophet (saww) through participating in Milads and Jalsas, I am also of the view that no one can question Deobandis on their love for the Holy Prophet and the fellow humans. }}}}

#78 ahmadzai sahib jii

Singhaii, pakhair raghalay. Tolla musliman tha kana, stara mushay?(Sorry for my broken roman Pushto)

I apologize if you got offended by any of my statement on other boards.

1:-With all due respect, I did not mention any sort of discussion about Wahabism or Al Qaida on this article.

Even if I did in other discussions in other articles on other boards I still hold the same opinion, that I do not believe in any sect in Islam. I believe all are Muslims, no shiats, sunni, deobandi, wahabis etc etc. If someone asks me, if I am sunni or shia or etc etc, I always firmly say, ``I am neither, I am Muslim, No doubt about it.``

As for as Al Qaida is, I condemn it`s terrorist activities in Pakistan, Afghanistan and worldwide. They are shame for all Muslims. As for as Wahabis are, they are the ones to divide Muslims in to Kafir and non kafir groups. Whoever doesn`t agree with their school of thoughts is KAFIR. They remind me of a dictatorship in Islam. They are the ones who have hijacked Islam and are contruding it to suit their minds and life styles. They are giving bad name to Muslims. Well in fact they themselves are,but Muslims.

2:-As for as Milads and Jalsas and showing pompous respect for the Prophet(PBUH) is I do not mind ,if people do that without harming any one. That is their own way of expressing their love for their religious figure. I am all for the freedom of expression, but with responsibility. I never went to any milad or jalsas myself. But, I admire others doing that and showing enthusiasm and love for their Prophet(PBUH). I respect their emotions and their celebrations. They have all the right to CELEBRATE whatever they wish to as long as their celebrations are not harmless and benign.

To be honest rather I love to see all the decorations in bazaars when I am in Pakistan. I love all those festivities and processions with colorful banners and naats . I believe in one thing only,``Live and let live.``

ahmadzai sahib jii

tolla Muslim da kanaa, zamaa religion Islam , your religion Islam(sorry for my poor roman pushto)

re: jang # 84

But jang sahib, ideas kill, not guns. Without ideas, guns are worthless pieces of metal and wood. Without guns, ideas will find a hundred other ways to kill.

Re: # 45
>>>>.Mohammed is an interesting figure but the lack of real information about him (versus fairy tales) makes it hard to appreciate his achievements<<<<

I have to disagree with u on this count. In fact there is plenty of historical facts about Mohamed documented by MUSLIM scholars, these are in addition to the fairy tales.
He was a merchant, clever and manipulative warrior, who rode on horse backs, used swords to slaughter Jews, and took their womenfolk as sex slaves. What more historical facts do you desire?

These truths are unpalatable to people born into Islam and they can not objectively look at these facts. As I said earlier, there are GOOD MUSLIMS who are good in heart Bhakthi Margis who see only good in Mohamed. That is fine, it is NONE of our business to point out Mohamed`s faults, if only Muslim SOCIETIES
(1) Respeect other societies and agree to abide by the rules and laws of the countries where they live. Now they want Sharia in Ontorio, and UK!
AND
(2) Stop unleashing Jehadi terror on rest of us

p.s
to those Pakistani converted Hindus vigorously posting about Manu Smiriti and caste system. Perhaps this is what you learned in your text books. 99% of Hindus have never even laid on this book, if you abuse this book on an Indian street people will cheer you. If you abuse Koran in Pak (or for that matter in India) u will be lynched on the spot!!!!!!

Pmishra at # 82:

“If you think indians had anything to do with blowing up worshippers anywhere, you are much crazier than I thought you were.”

Indians keep telling us that we are Indians too. My DNA is trying to get closer to you guys. I am 5% there where you are. I hope to be fully crazy like an average Indiot in 10-15 more years

;-)

#83 Deoband Seminary without a military compound and weapons is a toothless tiger. Those hyderabasis are prolly just trying to out-muslim you..indian muslims sometimes feel less muslim than paki, and paki less than arab ;-)

Re: # 82

pmishra,

........... i don`t mean to scare you but a lot of indian muslims, specially hyderabadis, are deobandis like ahmedzai - they are all, every single one of them, on a very short fuse .......... by the way, i hope you know that deoband is in india ....... why don`t you guys shut down it down before it is too late ? ..........

#77 ahmadzai


If you think indians had anything to do with blowing up worshippers anywhere, you are much crazier than I thought you were.

I guess you live in such a morass of sectarian hatred, that you imagine everyone is like you and your religion.

Re: # 77

ahmedzai,

........ i don`t think the indians had anything to do with the bombing in karachi as you seem to suggest ....... it seems to be the work of mad men who love the prophet`s nephew and grandsons more than they love the prophet - imbeciles !......... but every crowd has a silver lining and it seems that most of the folks killed on the stage were of the bearded and turbaned variety ...... now, hopefully, these ashiqs-i-rasool (lovers of the prophet) will retaliate and take out a dozen or more equally turbaned and bearded yokels on the other side ......... black rats killing brown rats is not necessarily a bad thing - maybe it is the only way to rid mankind of this pestilence .......

Re: # 76

Burying daughters alive is one of the many myths innovated by Wahabis. Saudis still treat their women with cynicism and don’t allow them basic freedoms such as traveling alone or driving a car, or leaving house without accompanied by someone with a penis. They haven’t changed much since the 6th century. In other places however, women were more advanced than they are now in where Islam originated.

You may want to note that Egyptian women enjoyed more rights in 300 BC (1000 year before the birth of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)) than women in today’s Islamic Arab world enjoy. Even when Greek conquered Egypt, they were surprised to see women having so many rights, such as right to inherit, being treated equally in a court of law, etc. Please sell your garbage to the ignorant. Thanks.

madani sirjee,

the bum in karachi was an irani warning shot fired over the bow. soon there will be strikes on ispahan nuke facility and pakistani govt is reminded of irani capability in karachi.

I would like to express my regrets on two interactors that I hold in highest regard viz. Monto and Zeena to very carelessly equate Deobandi school of thought with Al Qaidah and Wahabism.

I am utterly disappointed to see that the two very learned interactors have opted to fall into the trap that has been laid by the powers that be to divide the Muslims.

While as a Deobandi, I am totally against pompous overly gaudy showing of respect for our Holy Prophet (saww) through participating in Milads and Jalsas, I am also of the view that no one can question Deobandis on their love for the Holy Prophet and the fellow humans.

As a Deobandi, I am totally against holding Milads and Jalsas for this means showing off and leaving the destination to the “5th Element” whereas the need of the time is to get our new generation educated enough to take destiny in their own hands.

On a political front, I would like to proudly state that it was Deobandi religious parties in the NWFP and Pashtoon belt of Balochistan, who resoundingly defeated the communists, nationalists and secessionists forces in those areas in all the elections held to date.

In my last paragraph there is a subliminal message for all those Deobandi haters who, without any doubt in my mind, are patriots.

Good morning everybody.

Varnasi and now Karachi.

India leads the game 2-1. The 2 goals against Pakistan came in quick succession. One was own goal (women’s stampede in the mosque).

It is a fast paced game. Let us see if Pakistani offensive line up will be able to reorganize and attack a Hindu worship place in India or strike in Bengalore.

Once a man came to Holy prophet (pbuh) and told him that he wanted to convert but he had committed such grave sins that he feared that Allah would never forgive him. Prophet assured this man that no sin is bigger than His blessing. All he had to do was to repent. But that man was insistent that God will never forgive him. Holy Prophet asked him what sins did he committ, which had made him so hopeless. The man said, in the days of his ignorance he used burry his newborn daughters alive; and he kept it doing it many times in the hopes that one day his wife would bear him a son. This narration brought tears to Holy Prophet`s eyes and after waiting for a little while he told that man that all the sins of his days of ignorance are forgiven. Then he converted this man into a Muslim but told him never to appear before him again because that would remind him the pain and suffering of those little girls whom he used to burry alive.

.......... a befitting birthday present ...

........... two suicide bombers blew themselves up at a birthday party for this man in karcahi and killed 57 other guests - it is reported that they all went to heavan ........

......... mo, with his penchant for violence would have loved this present !

Aaj milad e Nabi hai kya suhaana noor hai
Aa gya woh Noorwala jis ka saaya noor hai!

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Thanks for this wonderful article. About the Blessed Prophet`s beauty a poet has said:

Woh kamaal husn e Huzoor hai ke gamaan e naqs jahaan nahin
Yehi phool khaar se door hai, yehi shama` hai ke dhuwaaN nahin!
-Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan

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Perfectly enumerating the Master`s (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam) perfect qualities Shaykh Sa`di wrote in Farsi:

Husn e Yusuf, dam e `Isa, yad-e-bayzaadaari
Aancheh khooban hamehdaarand keh tu tanhaa daari

The beauty of Joseph, Christ`s breath, the miraculous shining hand of Moses
All those virtues which they had combined--you possess alone!

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Eid Milad al Nabi to all!

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#66


I`ll repeat what I had said before.

``When I looked into his eyes, I saw God and the Devil residing together in perfect harmony``.

So you agree that Devil did reside in him.

Now the things are clear to me. When you look into his eyes, god looks at you. When others(Kaffirs) look into his eyes, Devil looks at them. Thats why for you, he is God. And for others he is devil.