US–India Deal and Kashmir

Re: # 179

``Therefore, there is every reason for Pakistan to respond in kind. If under such circumstances, any freedom struggle is carried deep inside Indian heartland, Pakistanis will support it. ``


HA!!! As your General said to all the boot lickers of his country.......it is like a water tap....we can open it whenever we want to.............

except for the fact that the pipe has already started leaking and flooding Pakistan.............so go ahead........keep your taps open......produce more jehadis so that they can kill you in your own house...............you deserve to be ruled by the Hasba Bills which are sooner or later going to be the defacto law of your theocratic pureland..............

re:#157 by masanamuthu
If i were your teacher, i would give u ``F`` grade.
Let me explain.
Pakis used the same argument in Kashmir that u use viz, it is a cost effective strategy to recruit disgruntled Kashmiris (who are much more in number than disgruntled muslims in rest of India) and bleed India thr` Jehad.
Know what happened?
Jehad did not stop India from forging ahead economically but Pak paid a heavy price. Its economy today is in shambles (don`t believe what u read in Paki newspapers about Paki economic miracle). Few want to invest in pakistan.
So, if Pak takes jehad to rest of India, in the new geopolitical climate, Pak would in all probability be labelled a terrorist nation. I don`t have to tell u what will happen to Paki economy after that.
Secondly, harsh though it may sound, life is an expendable commodity in India. India is not going to be cowed down by a few bomb blasts in temples, market places.
Sridhar

Re: # 179 ahmad
[...Pakistan has no plans of carrying freedom struggles deep inside India...]

good.... be straight and keep your noses clean....

Re: # 162 HP
[.... none attempted to show what Indian response would be in such a situation...]

``How do you deal with jihad?`` - if anybody knew answers to that question - he would be a billionaire... because that`s the question everybody is asking today.... the brits, french, dutch, spaniards, germans, thais, russians, americans and indians - they all have the same problem.... it`s global problem and there is no ready answers....

Islamic Jihad is like AIDS... at this time - there is no cure, no ``solution``..... all that you can do is control it - for AIDS they usy ``cocktail`` of drugs.... for Jihad - you may need a ``cocktail`` of daisy-cutters, hell-fires and whatever else pentagon produces these days to be rained down on the jihad factories of pakistan and other places.... That may work - it worked in afganistan to some extent.....

From purely an indian perspective - well, nobody can predict at this time what the indian response would be..... would depend on the extent and frequency of damage.... 9/11 kind of attack may even bring in another war, and nukes.... who knows???

Re: # 180 by arjun_m

I did not understand your question. Taking it literally:

Who died?

Many people. For example in the article you posted Muhammad Naeem a simple worker died. Was he married? Did he have children? Who will take care of them? Does he have a three year old daughter? Has this daughter seen the tattered body? Why does the body smell different? Why is the body all crumpled? Who will tell her that it is because the backbone is broken?

Who made me a judge?

Nobody.

Adios.

Re: # 186
HP
Cheers. Have a good weekend , you too. But one day I will convert you into a single malt afficionado.-))

#184 by swarrier

That’s okay! You are a new kid on the block. You will learn. No need for apology. I think you are a good man and anyone can get mad once in a while. As for your post, I have seen many posts about Kargil and stuff and I don’t pay attention to that as those things are not real. If they were, India and Pakistan would never sit across the table, which they routinely do nowadays. So whatever we say here is merely speculation and obviously has no impact or bearing on what goes on in the boondocks.

Is there anything in this world that is original? I am no exception..

Have a good weekend.

#179 by ahmadzai on March 31, 2006 2:02pm PT

Let it be clarified that Indians don`t really give a pakis rear..and there`s a ZERO chance of India giving up Indian Kashmir..terrorism or no terrorism..

People whose citizens are getting bombed in their own country by a foreign power shouldn`t really overestimate their own capability or underestimate their vulnerability..

Re: # 169
[Your post shows a pattern of thought prevalent in many Indians and you are no exception. I don’t have to take your advice nor do I need it. Just get over it. If you don’t like some thing learn to ignore it.]

Come on HP. Blanket dismissals of people don`t mean anything. And you seem to have picked out just one point in my post about name calling. I could say that is the pattern that I have discerned in your posts. Pick up one point and base your answer on that. You have to argue about what I have said. Saying all Indians think alike because they disagree with your viewpoint is neither here nor there.

Besides if I do not disagree with you why would we have a debate? Is that what you call bluster? I don`t claim to be a foreign affairs expert. But all the theory you have advanced is pretty rudimentary and I say there is nothing original in it.

Do you expect to answer only people who agree with you?

I don`t agree with what you say because I don`t see any reason to poke the festering sore which seems to be Indo-Pak relations. You seem to prefer the status quo.


And I do agree I had missed the name callers before you started your bit. So for that bit in my post I do apologise.

#179

No need to hurt yourself trying to get into complex yoga poses Ahmedzai-bhai, you are among friends here :-)

and this paki wetdream of targeting Bangalore and other places to make India give up Kashmir on a platter: It`s not new..they`ve been having this delusion since 1999 at least when India`s IT industry burst onto the world scene..

6/7 years down the line Pakiland is no closer to getting Indian Kashmir, India`s IT exports this year will be 20 billion $, 33 Indian companies made it to the Forbes biggest companies compared to 2 paki companies, the paki army is bombing and killing it`s own citizens in the NWFP and Balochistan...besides the whole part of a foreign power bombing and killing paki citizens on paki soil without any hint of an apology..

So pakis can keep on wet dreaming...that`s the last straw, albeit imaginary, they have to clutch on to....

#179 this is one serious pretzel.

#177 by GT on March 31, 2006 1:50pm PT


But helping blow up innocent people is not acceptable.


It seems acceptable to Pakiland and pakis like HP and ahmadzai...so who died and made you the judge of what is unacceptable?

To all the Indians indulging in orgies once again:

Let it be clarified that Pakistan has no plans of carrying freedom struggles deep inside India, although it is your government that believes that we are fully capable of doing so and in all liklihood, we are. This can only come about if we want to retaliate in response to what India is trying to do in Pakistan through its supporters in current Afghan Government. From what the indications are, India is not inclined to condone Pakistan for its “mistake of Kashmir” and is bent upon damaging us in future. Therefore, there is every reason for Pakistan to respond in kind. If under such circumstances, any freedom struggle is carried deep inside Indian heartland, Pakistanis will support it.

#177
``Historically, though the Indian State has been able to instigate trouble within and outside the country it has not been good at managing the outcomes``

who is? Pakistani`s, American`s ...?

kaal,

Historically, though the Indian State has been able to instigate trouble within and outside the country it has not been good at managing the outcomes. So why do something that you are not good at doing? Spying is OK. Building capabilities to say kidnap Dawood for trial in India is fine (actually it is a shame that India does not have such capabilities). But helping blow up innocent people is not acceptable.