Remembering Allama Iqbal

Har lahza hai momim kee..by
Noor-JehaN

Har lahza hai momim kee..by
Noor-JehaN

Iqbal was no doubt a great poet but one wonders what engendered in this man who penned ``Saare jahan se achchha`` the parochial streak that ultimately made him a believer in creation of an independent homeland for the Indian Muslims. He shares the blame for all the untold miseries faced by those (Hindus and Muslims ) who were uprooted during partition as well as the consequent hardships faced by people of India and Pakistan as a result of the ongoing conflict between the two countries.

Thanks for this Farzana. Allama Iqbal is one of the very few people whom I would consider as heroes and my views on Islam are becoming closer to his `reformist` ideas every day. The man was a genius. His Kulliyat e Urdu and, even greater, his Kulliyat e Farsi are amongst the greatest poetry collections of mankind.

I`m also currently reading the mammoth biography of him by his younger son Javed Iqbal entitled Zindarud (The Living Stream) which is in 3 large volumes but it is brilliant. Anne-Marie Schimmel has also written excellent analyses of his work.

http://www.allamaiqbal.com is the official website and it is very good and very comprehensive.

Nishan i mard i mumin man ba tu gu-yam
Marg aayad tabassum bar lab-i-ust

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Do aalam se karti hai baygaana dil ko
ajab cheez hai, lazzat e aashnaa`ii!

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Duniya ki mehfiloN se uktaa gya hoon ya Rabb
Kya lutf anjuman ka, jab dil hi bujhh gya ho?

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Ki Muhammad se wafaa tu ne tau hum tere haiN
Yeh jahaaN cheez hai kya, lawh o kalam tere haiN!
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Main ishq ki intehaa chaahita hooN
Meri saadagii dekh, kya chaahita hooN!

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and so on for ever! His poetry is unsurpassed in both languages.
May Allah have mercy on his noble soul.
Ameen.

Iqbal was a powerful poet - a Sialkoti hookah smoking comfortabble person. also drank. a normal muslim.

forgive also his theories of `khudi` - a good doze of it caming from German philosophers.

but then he got lost somewhere - sometimes socialist, some times Al Qaida, some time nationalist.

But I do not think a person like him would have gone for theocracy or the Ummah that we now conceptualize.

his shikwa & jiwab-e-shiwa is lajawab.

His son, the retired justice, initially interprated him in radical islamic form - now he has changed his mind & says that his father was not a radical; and believed in continuous reformation of islamic ideas.

nhk

Re: # 89

Stuka,

You stoop lower than the dive bomber you name yourself after. Remind me of the fact ``ki oche bade na ho sake``.

The same must go for family background {you are a so called Air Force Expert because of your background (see romair)}, something tells me nobody from you family would have been a flyer must have been Pay & Accounts/ Ordinance types.

Yaarie indeed.

U are positively beneath contempt.

Sanatani

Re: # 90,ZahraJ:
Thanks for the explanation of Ummah. Howerver, you diffuse quotation of all the work of Iqbal fails to answer my assertions in #86. I wonder if they were supposed to be reply to my statements therein.

Re: # 88, echoboom:
I do not know if you are responding to my comments but the song you quote would have been the high Iqbal but somehow he got corrupted. he failed to live up to his vatan. He fragmented it, I men, intellectually.
If you are a Muslim I can understand your travail at poring over on these aspects of Iqbal but if we are to find our way out of the maze that the British deliberatly left us in and toward peace in South Asia we have to disect and analyze why we went wrong. Only then, can we find the viable path towards the reconciliation of the populations and healing of the wounds that all segments nurse.
Thanks again for providing us the music of Iqbal, that is as important as the philosopical analysis of him.

#104 by Inquirer

[….I can understand your travail at poring over on these aspects of Iqbal but if we are to find our way out of the maze that the British deliberatly left us in and toward peace in South Asia we have to disect and analyze why we went wrong.]

Inquie, you break my heart! I truly feel your pain, Inquie!

You are hurting all over. Except perhaps in the brains area – that may perhaps be all numbed up – with pain!

The morons did it to themselves. They did it to the rest of the crowds. They continued to do it to themselves and to the rest of the crowds. They still continue to do the same after all the kicks they received all over the body and all over the place!

Yes, THOSE morons!

Sixty years! And the same morons still don’t see it!

Therefore, therefore, therefore….

Therefore, of course it must be all the Britishers’ fault!

I KNEW it!

And if that does not work, let’s say who else we can find. Blame the Americans. Blame Gandhi, blame Tagore, blame the Jewish folks, and blame everybody else’s uncles and mothers! Blame somebody else!

Blame everybody but the morons – who still keep doing it – right here on this pathetic crappy web-site with its seers – yes, those very word-pee-ers!

You still need to probe? Go probe doo-doo! Starting with the one located inside your own head!

Oh boy, how it must hurt – such tremendous pain!

Your pain is truly felt!

In the earnest hope that this would be invaluable to those who want to do a parallel
reading in english as well.

COMPLETE work in english below: click


http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/iqbal/default.htm

Ayatullah Ali Khamanei, the present supreme leader of Iran, said several years ago: It is truly unique that a poet has written in a language(farsi) without ever having lived there (iran) or that being his mother tongue. In the annals of poetry it is almost a miracle.

Anna-Marie Schimmel said ( & only she could have the courage & scholarship to utter this): Although we might not consider him a prophet, but he was definitely touched by Gabriel`s wing [ Gabriel`s wing= Baal-i Jibreel]



Muhammad Iqbal

Professor Allama Dr. Muhammad Iqbal

Iqbal stands alone in the post classical period of Islamic philosophy as a reviver of the discipline within the Muslim world. He is the only Islamic philosopher to make a serious attempt at grabbling with the problems of modern western philosophy within an Islamic context. His thought has been extremely influential throughout the Islamic world today.

Iqbal introduces his notion of Khudi, or self. Arising from a desire to awaken the Muslim Ummah and drawing upon inspiration from western existentialists like Nietzsche, and Muslim spiritual teachers he empowers the Muslim individual. Beyond its superficial, and important, role as a motivator for Muslims Khudi embodies a deep philosophical concept prevalent throughout his philosophical writings.

Iqbals breadth and depth of knowledge is truly remarkable. Being educated both in the east and the west gave him a unique perspective to tackle the problems of modern times. Below we sample some of his work, and some work related to him. Iqbal wrote in English, Urdu and Farsi. Many links below are compliments of the Iqbal Academy.

Works:

In English:

* The Development of Metaphysics in Persia (1908)
* The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam (1930): The landmark work in Islamic philosophy by Iqbal. [alternate site]

In Urdu:

* Bang-i Dara (1924) - Call of the Marching Bell [alternate site] [alt. site2] [English translation]
* Bal-i Jibril (1935) - Wings of Gabriel [alternate site] [English translation]
* Zarb-i Kalim (1936) - The Rod of Moses [alternate site] [English translation]

In Persian (Farsi): [All of the below are English translations]

* Asrar-i Khudi (1915) - The Secrets of the Self
* Rumuz-i Bekhudi (1918) - The Mysteries of Selflessness
* Payam-i Mashriq (1923) - Message from the East
* Zabur-i Ajam (1927) - Persian Psalms
* Javidnama (1932) - To his son
* Pas Chih Bayad Kard (1936) - What should then be done: O people of the East?
* Armaghan-i Hijaz (1938) - Gift from Hijaz

More Links:

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His life, biography, and more
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Selected verses of Iqbal
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Thoughts and Essays by Dr. Iqbal

Timeline:

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His life, works, and more (opens in a new window) (846kb large but worth it!)



http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/iqbal/default.htm

Echoboom

As even those with religio-political leanings different from yours must agree, your knowledge of Islamic poetry and philosophy is remarkable. It will be great if you or anyone else could summarize Iqbal`s major theoretical and philosophical contributions to advancing human understanding.

For instance, had the concept of a (powerful) self - independent and self-justified - not been incorporated in Islamic philosophy before Iqbal?

The truth is Iqbal was crazy and in his fits he wrote a few good things. Those were exceptions.
He was against women education and his only shair that I remember goes like this:

Larkian parah rahin hain ingrazy
Dhoondh lee quom nay falah kee rah.

Only a crazy mullah could have said a thing like that…

Re: # 91

``Shaheen, mard-e-momin, ego(khudi), modernism all came from Khan Baba. (Zeena)

dear Zeena -- may be Iqbal`s modernism came from your Khan Baba -- but his Shaheen and the `superman` aka `` mard-e momin`` came from Fascist Mussolini -- Iqbal admired Mussolini -- it was good that he did not live to see his hero`s last days in ignominy....being dragged in the streets of Rome and hanged by a lamp post.....

Iqbal`s Id ego or `Khudi` business came from that mad poet Nietzsche......from whose womb later on a Rosemary baby called Hitler was born...

got to admit that Iqbal did take revenge for the `forced conversion` of his Hindu grandfather from the Umma by pushing the Umma into Nietzsche’s Hell to burn for all time to come.....


...but on the other hand the `conversion` was a great linguistic blessing for a malleably expressive language like Urdu that got its greatest poet that ever lived or will ever live....in the entire history of modern subcontinental poetry.......

I doubt Hindi had the wings to keep up with Iqbal’s mercurial soaring intellect…….:)

Sanatani: U are a scumbag and I don`t believe in displaying good manners to scum just for the sake of appearences. There is no need to engage me in any interact unless you want abuse. A masochist like you, I`m not surprised that you possibly even enjoy the abuse.

#109

``got to admit that Iqbal did take revenge for the `forced conversion` of his Hindu grandfather..... ``



Are you suggesting that his problems were genetic? Could be!

re: HP # 108

LOL, come on now. Even for a provocative thinker like you that is a bit much :)

To further raise some heckles, I do think there is (or, over time, became) something genetically wrong with Indians with their hollow pretensions of peace.