Salman Hameed April 16, 2006
#15 Posted by kalihawa on April 17, 2006 6:51:54 am
Re: # 5
````There`s no God`` means the universe (matter, energy, space and time) is there since eternity.``
Why? Doesn`t that bring in concept of beginning of time?
``Well we all know this is not possible, otherwise all the matter and energy would have distributed equally throughout space with no energy and matter gradient left.``
How do you know 15 billion years is enough time? And what is beginnig of time? Does a loop has a begining or an end? My understanding is that cosmic matter is more or less uniformly distributed in space which is still expanding.
````There`s no God`` means the universe (matter, energy, space and time) is there since eternity.``
Why? Doesn`t that bring in concept of beginning of time?
``Well we all know this is not possible, otherwise all the matter and energy would have distributed equally throughout space with no energy and matter gradient left.``
How do you know 15 billion years is enough time? And what is beginnig of time? Does a loop has a begining or an end? My understanding is that cosmic matter is more or less uniformly distributed in space which is still expanding.
#14 Posted by majumdar on April 17, 2006 4:41:18 am
Akbar Sahib,
My knowledge of both physics and religion is extremely limited. I was just speculating upon the nature of the Universe and God as I understand best.
Regards
My knowledge of both physics and religion is extremely limited. I was just speculating upon the nature of the Universe and God as I understand best.
Regards
#13 Posted by majumdar on April 17, 2006 4:39:05 am
Zeenaji,
None of the articles need be censored. But some of the filth and abuse that is hurled by interactors at each other is highly hideable. Incidentally if it is of any consolation to you, none of your posts qualify under the previous category.
Regards
None of the articles need be censored. But some of the filth and abuse that is hurled by interactors at each other is highly hideable. Incidentally if it is of any consolation to you, none of your posts qualify under the previous category.
Regards
#12 Posted by Zeena on April 17, 2006 3:49:18 am
#10 majumdar
Zeenaji,
{{Finally one article and hopefully a set of interacts which are fit to appear on a RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEBSITE. }}
Regards
majumdar sahib
As if chowk.com is a porno web site? You`re acting like this web site is rated R?
Yes, this is RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEB SITE.Whats wrong with your vision?
Show me one front page article which you can not show your family? Yes, show me one article . I am waiting for your response. Just show me.
Zeenaji,
{{Finally one article and hopefully a set of interacts which are fit to appear on a RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEBSITE. }}
Regards
majumdar sahib
As if chowk.com is a porno web site? You`re acting like this web site is rated R?
Yes, this is RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEB SITE.Whats wrong with your vision?
Show me one front page article which you can not show your family? Yes, show me one article . I am waiting for your response. Just show me.
#11 Posted by Akbar260 on April 17, 2006 3:39:56 am
Mr Majumdar
What you are discussing is the `String Theory`, which unfortunately is extremely rudimentary with no suppporting evidences, only a handful of mathematical speculations. For your kind information, I am not supporting any particular religion regarding the creation of the universe. I am just mentionaing how difficult it is to study ``God`` within limits of the modern science. It may be hard to prove the existence of God, even harder, to disprove one, if we talk with reference of whatever we know as science.
Dr. Muhammad Akbar Hussain Siddiqui
www.astronomer.zoomshare.com
What you are discussing is the `String Theory`, which unfortunately is extremely rudimentary with no suppporting evidences, only a handful of mathematical speculations. For your kind information, I am not supporting any particular religion regarding the creation of the universe. I am just mentionaing how difficult it is to study ``God`` within limits of the modern science. It may be hard to prove the existence of God, even harder, to disprove one, if we talk with reference of whatever we know as science.
Dr. Muhammad Akbar Hussain Siddiqui
www.astronomer.zoomshare.com
#10 Posted by majumdar on April 17, 2006 3:18:51 am
Akbar Sahib,
It is quite possible that there would be infinite number of Universes, each of which would have seen an infinite series of Births (Big Bang???) and infinite series of Deaths (Big Crunch???). It would by no means be inconsistent with existence of God or religion. Such a view would in fact be very consistent with the Hindu viewpoint on God and Cosmos (Anadi-Anant- without a start or end, without a beginning or end). Dont know what view would Abrahamic faiths would take on such a view on the Universe. I hope you are not like the resident Maulana, Urstruly (pbuh) who would consider a Hindu point of view beneath contempt.
Zeenaji,
Finally one article and hopefully a set of interacts which are fit to appear on a RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEBSITE.
Regards
It is quite possible that there would be infinite number of Universes, each of which would have seen an infinite series of Births (Big Bang???) and infinite series of Deaths (Big Crunch???). It would by no means be inconsistent with existence of God or religion. Such a view would in fact be very consistent with the Hindu viewpoint on God and Cosmos (Anadi-Anant- without a start or end, without a beginning or end). Dont know what view would Abrahamic faiths would take on such a view on the Universe. I hope you are not like the resident Maulana, Urstruly (pbuh) who would consider a Hindu point of view beneath contempt.
Zeenaji,
Finally one article and hopefully a set of interacts which are fit to appear on a RESPECTABLE FAMILY WEBSITE.
Regards
#9 Posted by Zeena on April 17, 2006 1:57:15 am
On side note:-
GOD is the only light , the rest of the Universe is big hole illuminated by the GOD.
GOD is the only light , the rest of the Universe is big hole illuminated by the GOD.
#8 Posted by Zeena on April 17, 2006 1:55:43 am
Dear writer
Very interesing article. Good job.
I always believe that this universe is revolving around GOD, the super light, which is the source of all these lights in this big universe. Universe was created by a big bang and will end up with a big bang. You can take the example of big bang.
I believe our universe will finally turn in to a big hole with no light. The only light which will remain will be the light of GOD.
Thank you
Very interesing article. Good job.
I always believe that this universe is revolving around GOD, the super light, which is the source of all these lights in this big universe. Universe was created by a big bang and will end up with a big bang. You can take the example of big bang.
I believe our universe will finally turn in to a big hole with no light. The only light which will remain will be the light of GOD.
Thank you
#7 Posted by hameed on April 16, 2006 5:45:41 pm
Re: #6
Thanks and that solves the issue of evil in the world :)
Re: #5
Regarding not having new stars in between the rings: You are right, in some galaxies these rings are indeed caused by some kind of ripple effect - usually caused by a small galaxy falling through the middle of a large spiral galaxy. The Cartwheel galaxy (http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/entire_collection/pr1995002b/) is a spectacular example of that. In this case, however, there are two rings and we suspect that the traffic jam of gas clouds is caused by the distribution of old stars in the galaxy. In fact there are some preferred orbits, called Lindblad resonances, that are created when stars are distributed in a bar-shape in the central region of the galaxy (for an example, see NGC 1300 at http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050112.html). NGC 1398 is a beautiful barred galaxy and probably that has created rings of new stars.
-Salman
Thanks and that solves the issue of evil in the world :)
Re: #5
Regarding not having new stars in between the rings: You are right, in some galaxies these rings are indeed caused by some kind of ripple effect - usually caused by a small galaxy falling through the middle of a large spiral galaxy. The Cartwheel galaxy (http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/entire_collection/pr1995002b/) is a spectacular example of that. In this case, however, there are two rings and we suspect that the traffic jam of gas clouds is caused by the distribution of old stars in the galaxy. In fact there are some preferred orbits, called Lindblad resonances, that are created when stars are distributed in a bar-shape in the central region of the galaxy (for an example, see NGC 1300 at http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050112.html). NGC 1398 is a beautiful barred galaxy and probably that has created rings of new stars.
-Salman
#6 Posted by Netizen on April 16, 2006 1:39:13 pm
good work.
now i know why ``god`` is so immune to human suffering, starvation and grief; he is too busy creating new stars and galaxies!
we humans seem to be the lowest priority in the grand scheme of the cycle of life and death.
now i know why ``god`` is so immune to human suffering, starvation and grief; he is too busy creating new stars and galaxies!
we humans seem to be the lowest priority in the grand scheme of the cycle of life and death.
#5 Posted by Akbar260 on April 16, 2006 12:33:52 pm
``There`s no God`` means the universe (matter, energy, space and time) is there since eternity. Well we all know this is not possible, otherwise all the matter and energy would have distributed equally throughout space with no energy and matter gradient left. It actually CAME into being (Only possible if the source is something except matter, energy, space and time). If from ``nothing``, how is it ever possible if we remember the law of conservation of matter and energy. The very birth of matter, energy, space and time is beyond the realm of science itself, because science will not consider anything which is else than these four components, and it is where the solo domain of God starts.
Regarding the apparent absence of the new stars in between the rings, could it be something to do with the ripple effect? There might be young stars there but the ripple effect might have accumulated the dark matter there...or it might have some effect on the distribution of the young stars (though this is less likely). Or it might be possible that some compression effect is responsible for the formation of arms by giving birth to new stars, which is confined to specific distributions in the disc of a galaxy, which we see as arms. There can be many explanations.
Dr. Muhammad Akbar Hussain Siddiqui
Regarding the apparent absence of the new stars in between the rings, could it be something to do with the ripple effect? There might be young stars there but the ripple effect might have accumulated the dark matter there...or it might have some effect on the distribution of the young stars (though this is less likely). Or it might be possible that some compression effect is responsible for the formation of arms by giving birth to new stars, which is confined to specific distributions in the disc of a galaxy, which we see as arms. There can be many explanations.
Dr. Muhammad Akbar Hussain Siddiqui
#4 Posted by kalihawa on April 16, 2006 9:43:52 am
Re: # 3
Why should I?
As the faithfuls say, ``It is matter of faith``, isn`t it?
Why should I?
As the faithfuls say, ``It is matter of faith``, isn`t it?
#3 Posted by IB on April 16, 2006 8:24:41 am
Re: # 2
what I wrote was something I read - plus those were estimates plus kindly give me the explaination of your theory of `theres no God` ?
what I wrote was something I read - plus those were estimates plus kindly give me the explaination of your theory of `theres no God` ?
#2 Posted by kalihawa on April 16, 2006 8:04:13 am
Re: # 1
You have no idea what you are talking about. Trillion years are equal to a thousand billion years and Universe is merely 15 billion years old. There is no God, there never was and there never will be. The Universe will collapse in a big crunch back to Singularity from where it once emerged. Matter is deceptive, merely sum total of spinning energy fields.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Trillion years are equal to a thousand billion years and Universe is merely 15 billion years old. There is no God, there never was and there never will be. The Universe will collapse in a big crunch back to Singularity from where it once emerged. Matter is deceptive, merely sum total of spinning energy fields.
#1 Posted by IB on April 16, 2006 7:19:28 am
I read somewhere that the sun ( getting colder ) is actually dying & that the earth has some trillion years to go when the rotation pattern of earth will be tilted .
Allah ( suban-o-talah ) created this perfect system where everyones & everything(s) roles are defined - Humans are slowly but surely embarked on a journey to find other worlds & we all be lucky if we see another world in our life time but I am sure in centuries to come humans will be there where we will find answers .
Allah ( suban-o-talah ) created this perfect system where everyones & everything(s) roles are defined - Humans are slowly but surely embarked on a journey to find other worlds & we all be lucky if we see another world in our life time but I am sure in centuries to come humans will be there where we will find answers .
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