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UPDATE Delhi Explosion in Mosque
Meerut on Fire, Karachi Burns

Chowk Staff April 13, 2006

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#44 Posted by tahmed32 on April 14, 2006 7:42:43 am
masanmuthu #43 This is almost as bad as hindus on the rampage in india!! Thanks for posting, . :-)
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#43 Posted by masanamuthu on April 14, 2006 7:33:50 am
hamidm:

Reading this made me laugh..


...
Reported in Khabrain (February 19, 2006) Prof Umair, a teacher at the famous Zamindara College Gujrat, while addressing his class, said that Denmark had done the right thing according to the European tradition of freedom of expression by publishing the blaspheming cartoons. The students immediately rushed towards him. The professor ran, followed by the students, and took shelter under the table of the principal who lost no time in getting him to sign a resignation and kicking him out of Gujrat.

The poor guy could be trying to explain that “cartoon” marches were counter-productive. He was living dangerously!..


Hope you do take safety measures when you are in such places.. I imagined you running around with a scotch bottle in your hand chased by bearded students, wanted to warn you. We would lose the occasional laughs in chowk boards.. :-))
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#42 Posted by hamidm2 on April 14, 2006 5:29:29 am


57+5+5=67

`Five killed` in Kashmir violence
At least five civilians die in attacks and shooting in Srinagar in Indian-controlled Kashmir, police say.

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#41 Posted by bharath on April 13, 2006 7:09:00 pm
Neat clarification of matters at hand, what is going on in Karachi:




DECAPITATION ATTACK ON ANTI-SALAFI GROUP IN KARACHI

by B. Raman

In an article on Pakistan`s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) written on August 1, 2001, which is available at http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper287.html, I had written as follows: ``As a result of the policy of divide and rule followed in Sindh by the ISI under Musharraf, one is seeing in Pakistan for the first time sectarian violence inside the Sunni community between the Sunnis of the Deobandi faith belonging to the Sipah Sahaba and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the Sunnis of the more tolerant Barelvi faith belonging to the Sunni Tehrik formed in the early 1990s to counter the growing Wahabi influence on Islam in Pakistan and the Almi Tanzeem Ahle Sunnat formed in 1998 by Pir Afzal Qadri of Mararian Sharif in Gujrat, Punjab, to counter the activities of the Deobandi Army of Islam headed by Lt. Gen. Mohammed Aziz, Corps Commander, Lahore. The Tanzeem has been criticising not only the Army of Islam for injecting what it considers the Wahabi poison into the Pakistan society, but also the army of the State headed by Musharraf for misleading the Sunni youth into joining the jehad against the Indian army in J & K and getting killed there in order to avoid the Pakistani army officers getting killed in the jehad for achieving its strategic objective. The ISI, which is afraid of a direct confrontation with the Barelvi organisations, has been inciting the Sipah Sahaba and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi to counter their activities. This has led to frequent armed clashes between rival Sunni groups in Sindh, the most sensational of the incidents being the gunning down of Maulana Salim Qadri of the Sunni Tehrik and five of his followers in Karachi on May, 18, 2001, by the Sipah Sahaba, which led to a major break-down of law and order in certain areas of Karachi for some days. Musharraf, the commando, believes in achieving his objective by hook or by crook without worrying about the means used. In his anxiety to bring Sindh under control and to weaken the PPP (Benazir Bhutto`s Pakistan People`s Party), the MQM and the Sindhi nationalists, he has, through the ISI, created new Frankensteins which might one day lead to the Talibanisation of Sindh, a province always known for its sufi traditions of religious tolerance and for its empathy with India.``

2. A decapitation explosion at a religious congregation in Karachi on April 11, 2006, killed the entire senior leadership of the Sunni Tehrik, an anti-Deobandi, anti-Wahabi and anti-Salafi Sunni organisation of Pakistan, which has maintained its distance from Osama bin Laden`s Al Qaeda and International Islamic Front (IIF). The religious congregation was organised by the Jamaat-e-Ahle Sunnat (JAS) to mark the Holy Prophet`s birthday. Fifty other innocent civilians, many of them lower-level leaders of the Tehrik, were killed in the explosion.

3. The Pakistani authorities have blamed two suicide bombers for the devastating explosion, which killed Abbas Qadri, the Amir of the Sunni Tehrik, and four other senior leaders. No organisation has so far claimed responsibility for the explosion.

4. In the past, this organisation had been projected by the Deobandis, the Wahabis and the Salafis of Pakistan as a Sunni surrogate of the Iranian intelligence to counter the growing influence of the Wahabi-Salafi ideology among the Sunnis of Pakistan.

5. The Sunni Tehrik draws its following mainly from the Barelvis, a Sunni school of thought, which is generally perceived as more tolerant than the Deobandis. In fact, the Barelvis, many, if not most, of whom are descendents of converts from Hinduism, are in a numerical majority in Pakistan and in a preponderant majority in the Sindh province. The Deobandis, most of whose following is restricted to the Pakistani Punjab, the North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) and the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), are descendents of Muslims, who came into the sub-continent from Central Asia, Afghanistan and West Asia. They look upon the Barelvis as inferior to them and as soft due to the distorting influence of Hinduism on their thinking and behaviour.

6. While the Deobandi extremists have been backing
openly or covertly
Al Qaeda and its ideology, the Barelvis have been uncomfortable over it. Many of them have been critical of the use of the Pakistani territory by Al Qaeda and the IIF for their terrorist operations in other countries. They have also been worried over the implications of the message disseminated by bin Laden in January, 2006, in which he claimed that plans for another terrorist strike in the US homeland were already underway. Their worry is that just as the use of the Afghan territory by bin Laden for his 9/11 terrorist strikes in the US brought about the US-led military action in Afghanistan, the use of the Pakistani territory by Al Qaeda for a terrorist strike in the US could bring about a US military strike against Pakistan.

7. There are two main group of Sunni sectarian organisations in Pakistan
the Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, both strongly Deobandi-Wahabi-Salafi and both members of the IIF, and the Sunni Tehrik, strongly Barelvi and anti-Deobandi-Wahabi-Salafi. Since many years, the Sipah-e-Sahaba and the LEJ have embarked on a campaign for the Arabisation and Wahabisation of the Barelvi Muslims and for removing the distorting influence of Hinduism. The Sunni Tehrik has been resisting the onslaught of the Deobandis, Wahabis and Salafis.

8. For the last fifteen years, there has been a conflict between the Deobandis and the Barelvis for the control of the mosques and their funds not only in Pakistan, but also in the UK. Previously, the Barelvis used to control the mosques in the UK frequented by immigrants from the sub-continent, but they have since been driven out by the Deobandis and Wahabis. This was the starting point for the radicalisation of the Pakistani-origin Muslims in the UK and in the other countries of West Europe. The ISI has been supporting the Sipah-e-Sahaba and the LEJ in Pakistan as well as in West Europe.

9. Since its formation, the Sunni Tehrik has been involved in a sub-sectarian conflict with the Sipah-e-Sahaba and the LEJ and in a political conflict with the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) of Altaf Hussain. While the Sunni Tehrik and the MQM have been countering the activities of the Deobandis, Wahabis and Salafis and their attempts to Arabise and Wahabise the Indian Muslim migrants (Mohajirs) to Pakistan, they have at the same time been quarelling with each other over the collection of funds from the Mohajirs for their respective political activities.

10. Politically, while the Urdu-speaking Indian Muslim migrants to Pakistan from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh support the MQM, the Gujarati speaking migrants (Bohras and Memons) support the Sunni Tehrik with funds. The migrants from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh came from a poor or middle class background
landless labourers, petty traders, money-lenders, bureaucrats
but the migrants from Gujarat came from a rich background (businessmen). It is said that Karachi`s economy is largely controlled by the Memons and other Gujarati-speaking Muslims. They give more funds to the Sunni Tehrik than to the MQM.

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#40 Posted by jang on April 13, 2006 3:43:06 pm
if deaths of dog-fleas and martian-tourists are same-same so are those from result of jihad-sustainance state-policy and bad governance ;-)
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#39 Posted by hamidm2 on April 13, 2006 3:30:31 pm


sorry, but i just can`t get excited about 57 religious nuts getting killed in karachi ........... in any case, life in south asia is cheap :

`` five people, one a policeman, have been killed in violence in the southern Indian city of Bangalore following the death of legendary film actor Rajkumar ``

..... as long as people don`t have much to live for, death is not a bad option
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#37 Posted by tahmed32 on April 13, 2006 2:59:36 pm
#36 That was very clever, wiseguy. Hope it didnt strain your brain muscle too much. :-)
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#38 Posted by wiseguyin on April 13, 2006 3:17:47 pm
Re: # 37
Nah, THAT is a genetic disorder prevalent on the other side of the border.... no problems here
:)
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#35 Posted by tahmed32 on April 13, 2006 2:02:25 pm
#30 Choorhas are honest, hardworking people who are poor in a poor country and so have to work under unpleasant conditions. arjun, on the other hand, is a certified low-life. So dont demean choorhas by comparing them to this scumbag.
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#36 Posted by wiseguyin on April 13, 2006 2:43:14 pm
Re: # 35
so can we demean choorhas by comparing them to you :)
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#34 Posted by arjun_m on April 13, 2006 1:56:46 pm
#28 by chaltahai on April 13, 2006 12:38pm PT


Humanity is not bound by geography


Paki concern for humanity is bound for religion..and if muslims die, the religion of the perps matters too..
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#33 Posted by Netizen on April 13, 2006 1:48:22 pm
there needs to be a correction for the title.

meerut is not on fire. just a trade fair was engulfed in the blaze, which probably could have been avoided.

even though its a tragic loss of live, such things are not uncommon in a country where regulations and procedures take a back seat to influence and power and are given a scant regard.

just last week one bus fell off a cliff, some 60 people died.

every other week you read about death on highways due to head on collisions. what happens after the dead bodies are cleared? nothing.

there are no hearings, no procedures to prevent such tragedies from happening again.

our great ``netas`` will annouce ex-gratias sums for the families of dead and critically injured and would then leave for their political juggalbandis.

and will come back the next time when some other 60 people die in a stampede.
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#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 1:01:17 pm
They need to stop naming parks and hospitals after Sardar Aburrab Nishtar.

Women, children among 17 injured in acid attack

By A Correspondent

MULTAN, April 12: At least 17 people including four women and three children were injured when their rivals threw acid on them in a village in Shujabad on Wednesday.

The injured were brought to the Nishter Hospital where condition of three of them was said to be critical.

According to police, one Rafiq of Mattotali village wanted to marry a girl in his neighbourhood but her parents refused the proposal. On Tuesday night, Rafiq allegedly kidnapped the girl with the help of his accomplice.

The girl’s family members and relatives started chasing the kidnappers and after tracing them gathered outside the house of the accused. As they tried to force entry into the house, the accused allegedly sprayed acid on them.

The injured were identified as Muhammad Shafi, Nazar Muhammad, Jaffar, Sabir, Asif, Khalid, Riaz, Maqsood Mai, Bakhat Mai, Sakina Mai, Bashir, Muhammad Ramzan, Allah Ditta, Muhammad Shafi (s/o Allah Ditta), Bashir (s/o Wahid Bakhsh), Muhammad Shabbir and Kauser Mai.

Condition of Muhammad Shafi, Ramzan and Nazeer was stated to be critical.

ASP Shujabad Abdul Salam said the police had rounded up six of the alleged attackers, while raids were being conducted to arrest the main accused. The police has yet to register the case.

Courtesy Dawn - April 14, 2006

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#55 Posted by nasah on April 14, 2006 8:58:54 am
Re: # 32

``They need to stop naming parks and hospitals after Sardar Aburrab Nishtar.``(Salim)

you may be right -- what kind of name is Aburab -- father of God -- Ibnerab, one famous one, one can understand -- but Father of God -- pure blasphemy -- no wonder God is not happy with Nishtar Sahib........:)
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#31 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 1:00:12 pm
#30, Khamkhwa,
That is disgusting. Do you know how to interact politely without hurling personal insults? I am ashamed to be associated with Pakistan because of illiterate and unsavory idiots like you.
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#29 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 12:45:05 pm
#26, Stuka {re: ``#17 by khamkhwa ``This must be a bit of a refreshing surprise for Farzana after being accused for years of being called a Hindu hating Islamist. :)``}

Stuka,
Don`t expect Khamkhwa to perform any credible research. He`s just anybody`s personal chaprasi and collects one-sided, out of context, posts to buttress his point du jour. After all, how do you think he got his Canadian visa in Faisalabad?


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