Chowk Staff April 13, 2006
#17 Posted by khamkhwa. on April 13, 2006 9:07:12 am
... salim chauhan , farzana versey and other hindoo rightwingers have only ONE agenda... HATE PAKISTAN and they are doing a good job...
#18 Posted by wiseguyin on April 13, 2006 9:09:31 am
Re: # 15
Salim Jee,
The last case of Sati that became famous was of Roop Kunwar. And thatwas in 1987. To
this day we have police guards at that place where she was murdered so that people
don`t do puja there.
We know our problems - and do everything within our power to correct them. Success has
been average but it is there, nonetheless.
regards
Salim Jee,
The last case of Sati that became famous was of Roop Kunwar. And thatwas in 1987. To
this day we have police guards at that place where she was murdered so that people
don`t do puja there.
We know our problems - and do everything within our power to correct them. Success has
been average but it is there, nonetheless.
regards
#19 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 9:12:37 am
Chowk Staff,
The loss of life in both tragedies is shameful, sad, and preventable. There are however, several distinctions:
Meerut: Typically Indian habit of not paying attention to public safety. Too much red-tape, bureaucracy, and insensitivity to victims` welfare and concerns. Neta Surikhsha at the expense of Victim Sewa is wrong. Lack of discipline, lack of adherence to codes, and ``sab chalta hey`` attitude can be lethal.
Karachi: Typically Pakistani habit of blind religious devotion to the point of suicide and murder. Typically Muslim behavior of killing as many people as possible even when dying. Typically Pakistani habit of piling up one investigation after another and never getting to the problem itself. Typically Muslim behavior in lack of conern for human lives, safety, and property. Intolerance, illogical religios zeal, and total lack of discipline were lethal.
The loss of life in both tragedies is shameful, sad, and preventable. There are however, several distinctions:
Meerut: Typically Indian habit of not paying attention to public safety. Too much red-tape, bureaucracy, and insensitivity to victims` welfare and concerns. Neta Surikhsha at the expense of Victim Sewa is wrong. Lack of discipline, lack of adherence to codes, and ``sab chalta hey`` attitude can be lethal.
Karachi: Typically Pakistani habit of blind religious devotion to the point of suicide and murder. Typically Muslim behavior of killing as many people as possible even when dying. Typically Pakistani habit of piling up one investigation after another and never getting to the problem itself. Typically Muslim behavior in lack of conern for human lives, safety, and property. Intolerance, illogical religios zeal, and total lack of discipline were lethal.
#20 Posted by delhiwala on April 13, 2006 9:14:59 am
Re: # 17
Watch what you say.
I can assure you that number of Indians(including Hindus) who dont hate Pakistan exceeds those who hate Pakistan.
Dont spur your hatred here.
Watch what you say.
I can assure you that number of Indians(including Hindus) who dont hate Pakistan exceeds those who hate Pakistan.
Dont spur your hatred here.
#21 Posted by wiseguyin on April 13, 2006 9:17:03 am
Re: # 17
Thanx Khammi,
We try ... our best, though we are not as good still;
one day we will be as good as your mujahideen but I think till then, you will need to be
content with these individual acts of courage.
#16
Who is crying boss ?
Not a single Hinud has shown tears - crocodile or otherwise. They have been plain upfront
about what they think. If you find an HS here - crying for karachi - (s)he deserves a
spanking.
Thanx Khammi,
We try ... our best, though we are not as good still;
one day we will be as good as your mujahideen but I think till then, you will need to be
content with these individual acts of courage.
#16
Who is crying boss ?
Not a single Hinud has shown tears - crocodile or otherwise. They have been plain upfront
about what they think. If you find an HS here - crying for karachi - (s)he deserves a
spanking.
#22 Posted by dullabhatti on April 13, 2006 9:24:43 am
#10 by delhiwala on April 13, 2006 7:41am PT
Very sad indeed!!
My beloved Meerut,
err..I thought you were from Kharar.:-)
Very sad indeed!!
My beloved Meerut,
err..I thought you were from Kharar.:-)
#23 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 9:54:46 am
#20 Dillidost,
Thank you for being so civilized in the face of this nonsense from #17.
#18, #21 wiseguyin,
You know, my friend, it is very important to recognize our mistakes and take corrective actions to prevent future mistakes. Meerut was due to human stupidity. Karachi was due to human intolerance, human violence, and human hatred. Very different problems. But, as Khamkhwa fails to note the problems, he is bound to suffer from repititions.
Thank you for being so civilized in the face of this nonsense from #17.
#18, #21 wiseguyin,
You know, my friend, it is very important to recognize our mistakes and take corrective actions to prevent future mistakes. Meerut was due to human stupidity. Karachi was due to human intolerance, human violence, and human hatred. Very different problems. But, as Khamkhwa fails to note the problems, he is bound to suffer from repititions.
#24 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 9:56:58 am
#17, Khamkhwa {``salim chauhan , farzana versey and other hindoo rightwingers have only ONE agenda... HATE PAKISTAN and they are doing a good job...``}
Khamkhwa,
There is nothing wrong with Pakistan - just something terribly wrong with hateful people like you who tend to be the majority in that unfortuante land.
Also, there is nothing wrong with Islam - just something terribly wrong with hateful, violent, suicidal, selfish people like you who tend to be very vocal in that much maligned religion - again thanks to ``Muslims`` like you.
Khamkhwa,
There is nothing wrong with Pakistan - just something terribly wrong with hateful people like you who tend to be the majority in that unfortuante land.
Also, there is nothing wrong with Islam - just something terribly wrong with hateful, violent, suicidal, selfish people like you who tend to be very vocal in that much maligned religion - again thanks to ``Muslims`` like you.
#25 Posted by bjkumar on April 13, 2006 10:18:40 am
Any one who takes hit at civilians (the only exception being when civilians get caught in cross-fire during anti-terrorist activities) deserves condemnation – no ifs, ands, or buts!
The “politician” connection is highly stretched! Those who use the language of blasts are not politicians – they are killers!
My knowledge of Karachi – like my knowledge of most things – is limited. From what I have read about it on this site, it appears to be a great place to visit and to live in. I am sorry this event has happened and I feel bad for the victims – most of whom of course would be just regular folks.
The Merrut fire is in some ways reminiscent of the 1911 fire at the Triangle Waist Company in New York City, which was a sweat-shop in the heart of Manhattan. It was one of the worst disasters of those times – it took the lives of 146 individuals, mostly young women and girls who worked in that garment factory – and which resulted from the callous attitude toward safety on the part of those who had authority. Perhaps, like that disaster – this one in Merrut can also lead to some positive outcomes if individuals become more conscious of their own roles and responsibilities in taking safety codes seriously – the codes are there for very good reasons!
#26 Posted by stuka on April 13, 2006 11:29:44 am
``#17 by khamkhwa. on April 13, 2006 9:07am PT
... salim chauhan , farzana versey and other hindoo rightwingers have only ONE agenda... HATE PAKISTAN and they are doing a good job...
[Reply to interact #17] ``
This must be a bit of a refreshing surprise for Farzana after being accused for years of being called a Hindu hating Islamist. :)
... salim chauhan , farzana versey and other hindoo rightwingers have only ONE agenda... HATE PAKISTAN and they are doing a good job...
[Reply to interact #17] ``
This must be a bit of a refreshing surprise for Farzana after being accused for years of being called a Hindu hating Islamist. :)
#27 Posted by arjun_m on April 13, 2006 11:53:52 am
#17 by khamkhwa. on April 13, 2006 9:07am PT
wahabi nuts armed/trained/funded by the paki military and loved by the paki people when they were killing indians, kill pakis and the indians are supposed to feel sorry why exactly?
wahabi nuts armed/trained/funded by the paki military and loved by the paki people when they were killing indians, kill pakis and the indians are supposed to feel sorry why exactly?
#28 Posted by chaltahai on April 13, 2006 12:38:39 pm
Re: # 27
Because innocent people died. Humanity is not bound by geography Arjun.
Because innocent people died. Humanity is not bound by geography Arjun.
#29 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 12:45:05 pm
#26, Stuka {re: ``#17 by khamkhwa ``This must be a bit of a refreshing surprise for Farzana after being accused for years of being called a Hindu hating Islamist. :)``}
Stuka,
Don`t expect Khamkhwa to perform any credible research. He`s just anybody`s personal chaprasi and collects one-sided, out of context, posts to buttress his point du jour. After all, how do you think he got his Canadian visa in Faisalabad?
Stuka,
Don`t expect Khamkhwa to perform any credible research. He`s just anybody`s personal chaprasi and collects one-sided, out of context, posts to buttress his point du jour. After all, how do you think he got his Canadian visa in Faisalabad?
#30 Posted by khamkhwa. on April 13, 2006 12:46:41 pm
Re: # 27
arjun...
... i addressed rightwing hindoos not a converted choohRa like you...shooo...
arjun...
... i addressed rightwing hindoos not a converted choohRa like you...shooo...
#31 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 1:00:12 pm
#30, Khamkhwa,
That is disgusting. Do you know how to interact politely without hurling personal insults? I am ashamed to be associated with Pakistan because of illiterate and unsavory idiots like you.
That is disgusting. Do you know how to interact politely without hurling personal insults? I am ashamed to be associated with Pakistan because of illiterate and unsavory idiots like you.
#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 13, 2006 1:01:17 pm
They need to stop naming parks and hospitals after Sardar Aburrab Nishtar.
Women, children among 17 injured in acid attack
By A Correspondent
MULTAN, April 12: At least 17 people including four women and three children were injured when their rivals threw acid on them in a village in Shujabad on Wednesday.
The injured were brought to the Nishter Hospital where condition of three of them was said to be critical.
According to police, one Rafiq of Mattotali village wanted to marry a girl in his neighbourhood but her parents refused the proposal. On Tuesday night, Rafiq allegedly kidnapped the girl with the help of his accomplice.
The girl’s family members and relatives started chasing the kidnappers and after tracing them gathered outside the house of the accused. As they tried to force entry into the house, the accused allegedly sprayed acid on them.
The injured were identified as Muhammad Shafi, Nazar Muhammad, Jaffar, Sabir, Asif, Khalid, Riaz, Maqsood Mai, Bakhat Mai, Sakina Mai, Bashir, Muhammad Ramzan, Allah Ditta, Muhammad Shafi (s/o Allah Ditta), Bashir (s/o Wahid Bakhsh), Muhammad Shabbir and Kauser Mai.
Condition of Muhammad Shafi, Ramzan and Nazeer was stated to be critical.
ASP Shujabad Abdul Salam said the police had rounded up six of the alleged attackers, while raids were being conducted to arrest the main accused. The police has yet to register the case.
Courtesy Dawn - April 14, 2006
Women, children among 17 injured in acid attack
By A Correspondent
MULTAN, April 12: At least 17 people including four women and three children were injured when their rivals threw acid on them in a village in Shujabad on Wednesday.
The injured were brought to the Nishter Hospital where condition of three of them was said to be critical.
According to police, one Rafiq of Mattotali village wanted to marry a girl in his neighbourhood but her parents refused the proposal. On Tuesday night, Rafiq allegedly kidnapped the girl with the help of his accomplice.
The girl’s family members and relatives started chasing the kidnappers and after tracing them gathered outside the house of the accused. As they tried to force entry into the house, the accused allegedly sprayed acid on them.
The injured were identified as Muhammad Shafi, Nazar Muhammad, Jaffar, Sabir, Asif, Khalid, Riaz, Maqsood Mai, Bakhat Mai, Sakina Mai, Bashir, Muhammad Ramzan, Allah Ditta, Muhammad Shafi (s/o Allah Ditta), Bashir (s/o Wahid Bakhsh), Muhammad Shabbir and Kauser Mai.
Condition of Muhammad Shafi, Ramzan and Nazeer was stated to be critical.
ASP Shujabad Abdul Salam said the police had rounded up six of the alleged attackers, while raids were being conducted to arrest the main accused. The police has yet to register the case.
Courtesy Dawn - April 14, 2006
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