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#93 by HP on April 15, 2006 0:51am PT

pack your bags...

Immigration crackdown shatters Muslims` lives

By Cam Simpson, Flynn McRoberts and Liz Sly
Tribune staff reporters
Published November 16, 2003

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- The 75 passengers on the Icelandair jet sat strapped to their seats, cloth bands cinching their arms to their waists for all but the final descent of the three-leg, 20-hour flight.

Struggling to feed themselves, they spilled rice and meat onto the floor of the cabin. A trip to the bathroom required the escort of a federal agent.

After the plane screeched to a halt in the sweltering July heat, U.S. officials herded the men off the jet and onto the soil of their native Pakistan. The purpose of the flight: deportation. Why them? Their nationality.(i.e. PAKI)

#97 Arjun

Nobody in their right mind gets pleasure from the suffering of individuals - no matter what their nationality!

Will you stop recycling this 3-year old piece now.

I do not know what happened at the time and who did what, but if Federal agents mistreated individuals in their custody they probably violated some American laws, too!

My observations on the happenings at large in India is that it is a result of the political class being totally out of control. Every government organ has been hijacked by them for their personal causes, be it the police, fire department, municipal corporations and the like which is why they simply don`t function.

In India, we absolutely need political reforms to ensure that the Mayawatis, Lalloo Prasads, Mulayams, the Gowda family all of whom are essentially incompetent and failed people find it very hard to gain political power and hence ruin the country. At the same time, we need to make it easy for people like Narayan Murthy of Infosys, who has shown the guts to stand up to the politicians, and who has genuine long term solutions for India`s problems to be given a chance either through politics or administration to get into the system and make a difference.

Re: # 96
Mr. BJK It was funny you wrote about shayaer and etc its useless stuff.
I have bad opinion about ``poets`` etc and they are mostly/ all Lafangas. As father of my daughters I was damn against such characters `` who make poetry`` and stuff have unshaved faces and wasting parents hard earned money talking about useless things and talking nonsense and consuming enormous amounts of teas, smoking and wearing strange dresses and trying to impress impressible young girls who do not like good simple good husband and father of children type material and then destroying joy of young womens parents. They are useless for work as they feel simple work is not for poet and big work is too big so never works. And poetry is useless even if sweet as by putting poems pages and sturring tea it does not become sweet useless you need simple sugar. which is Rs. 44/kg. Now a days things are bad. I do little tution some time to ungrateful students and they have strange ideas. One young lady who was not doing ok in calculus had tution with me. And she use to come late and recently told her if she does not come on time I can not help her. I asked her why always late she said her male friend was reading shayari stuff in college and she wanted to attend or his heart will be broken etc. you know foolish nonsense. And she failed due to this useless boys bad influence and her father blamed me and said I should teach her again free. I told him I can do that but unless he kick that parasite friend shayar of his ungrteful daughter nothing can be done. The girl married shayar and has son and still he is doing useless stuff with no economic value ( lady is still in love feels he is doing something which is invaluable )and lady is working to support this man for her mistake of marrying.
This people ( boy and girl) if well displined when child then poor father had some happiness.
Now a days most young people are under evil influence of music, drugs, love,poetry and they are blind and aviod hard work to earn honest rupee.
good luck every body

ahmedmadani #100 A scientific survey reported in lafanga american press reports positive correlation between number of books at home and performance of child in school (ceteris paribus, and I say this in Latin because it is nice thing to say in Latin). But with one exception, as follows: If these books are on shayer shairi (as opposed to other subjects like science, history and so on), then there is not just no positive correlation, but negative correlation between number of books at home and performance of child in school.

In short, science support what you already know - shayer shairi is useless stuff, in fact bad for the brain.

On other kind of lafangbazi that you note, what you call the foolish nonsense of the heart will be broken etc. I humbly disagree - Have you forgotten when you were young once? Jap aatish jawaan thha?? So, please dont come in the way like the Great Wall of China between young people in love. Do you want the human race to come to an end!! :-)

#98 by bjkumar on April 15, 2006 8:52am PT



Nobody in their right mind gets pleasure from the suffering of individuals


Nope..I feel good about the FedGov deporting people who`re more likely to be involved in terrorist activities..

Re: # 99

tvarad:

``In India, we absolutely need political reforms to ensure that the Mayawatis, Lalloo Prasads, Mulayams, the Gowda family all of whom are essentially incompetent and failed people find it very hard to gain political power and hence ruin the country. ``

forget about these naa-layaks.

worry about the ``intellects`` like arjun singh, if he has his way narayan murthy/ratan tata would be running to china as fast as possible.....

#98 by bjkumar on April 15, 2006 8:52am PT



Nobody in their right mind gets pleasure from the suffering of individuals


Nope..I feel good about the FedGov deporting people who`re more likely to be involved in or support terrorist activities..

Mr. Kumar #98 Finally....I am glad some Indian finally spoke up (in addition to swarrier, that is). It is too easy for empty minds with nothing to write about other than ridicule and abuse to other communities that have no doubt kept chowk from growing beyond where it is today (which of course violates chowk guidelines, I may add).

#104 arjun the monkey man: I see you dont have a life outside chowk on weekends either.

Re: # 102
This is not my contribution, I am for full admission to USA once anybody enters and suppoet human rights.

I am against hhearts stuff etc, love etc its blind and not good, its like drugs and it gives wrong ideas and grief to parents. Lots of people feel their sons and daughter are great but really they are not most are not good just most median and all hype.Also people are marrying for love etc and then again break marriage soon for they never thought partner was such bad and heartless person. It is always good to start with no poetic ideas and with drab ideas with least ideas of romanticism ( romanticism is BIG BIG Problem for marriages.) You go damn with idea to have children then its ok. Then you marry proper as then you do not marry ugly person in love as then you know that you have to get them married, then sense comes. Problem is old times people were sensible they wanted to get married for children now they marry for love that is problem and then children are byproduct of modern marriage is big problem. In my family also this love marriage type problems but I ignore and bless them and they are away so no too much trouble, Its bad time. I need to go to sleep. I took my tab against GAD ( General Anxity disorder), feel sleepy Good luck everybody.

prophet tahmed: so I don`t get the prophet tahmed seal of approval?..damn..i`m all depressed now..

``with drab ideas with least ideas of romanticism ( romanticism is BIG BIG Problem for marriages.) ``

madani saheb.....my advice....do not try to marry off your daughters to someone whom they do not love!!..........Respect your daughter`s `Romanticism`................otherwise your own blood would curse you for the rest of their lives...........

one swallow doesn`t a sumer make..

how long before the paki government manipulates the numbers again?

Independent economists forecast below 6% GDP growth

By Fida Hussain

ISLAMABAD: The missed targets of major crops and the lower growth of industrial sector could deprive the country of achieving the desired GDP growth of seven percent, as independent economists are forecasting the real growth something below six percent in the current financial year.

“The government must be jubilant if the GDP growth touches six percent against the last year’s achieved growth of 8.4 percent,” most economists in the private sector are of the view.

They have informed the government that the situation has changed considerably this fiscal, where the estimated cotton crop size could be around 13 million bales against the last year’s achieved production of 14.6 million bales. There is a difference of 1.6 million bales in cotton production this year and what was achieved in the last fiscal, an economist, who asked not to be named, told the Daily Times.

The Karachi bombing and almost all islamist violence in Pakistan is blowback from the paki jihadi strategy..the jihadi strategy that pakis support...


Religious extremism and violence —Dr Hasan-Askari Rizvi

The incident is a manifestation of religious and cultural intolerance and extremism which have become a conspicuous feature of Pakistan’s politics and society. This can be traced back to the 1980s, when the military government of General Zia Ul Haq along with the United States and conservative Arab states bolstered Islamic-Afghan opposition to the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan. The hardline and orthodox Islamic groups obtained funds and weapons to fight the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. Their position was also strengthened due to General Zia Ul Haq’s co-option of Islamic groups to neutralise political forces that questioned his military rule. He projected the Pakistani state as the enforcer of orthodox Islam and allowed these groups to penetrate state institutions.

Their relevance persisted after the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan because the government of Pakistan launched Islamist militant groups in Indian-administered Kashmir to bolster the on-going insurgency in the 1990s. The continued patronage of the Pakistani state to Islamic militancy led to a proliferation of militant groups. They began to use their newly acquired power to pursue their narrow religious agenda in Pakistan’s domestic context. It is noteworthy that the mainstay of Islamic militancy in Afghanistan and Kashmir came primarily from the Deoband, Wahabi, and Ahle Hadith traditions. The Barelvis and the Shias played a limited role.

Witness the impotent rage of pakis like cab driver HP and El-Presidente..The Americans are getting ready to bomb the Islamist nuts on Pakistani soil..Bajaur was just an appetizer..

US forces are getting targetting Pakiland and pakis have wet dreams of holding the cards in AFghanistan..

there`s deluded..and there`s paki deluded

How the North-West can be won?

Are the Americans poised to go the whole distance in their search for `terrorists`? The NWFP government is worried that this may be the case

By Behroz Khan

The news is quite disturbing for the people and the governmnet of the NWFP; it has been reported that the United States has warned that it will bomb any part of the province in pursuit of `terrorists`.

The warning, it is said, was conveyed to the NWFP governor, Khalilur Rehman and of course to the chief minister, Akram Khan Durrani, by none other than President General Pervez Musharraf himself at a meeting in Islamabad. The tone of the message, an insider tells TNS, is tantamount to bullying.

``The president told the governor and chief minister that Americans have warned that those who are hiding in the Frontier and elsewhere will be bombed out,`` a source privy to the meeting revealed, requesing anonymity. The warning left the president angry as well as concerned, the source added, saying this could be an epilogue to increased target hitting by umanned Drones on Pakistani territory.

Apart from killing Commander Nek Muhammad in South Waziristan Agency, the US planes have targeted two suspected terrorist hideouts in Miramshah and Mirali areas of North Waziristan and Damadola in Bajaur Agency over the past few months. In Miramshah, all the victims turned out to be local tribesmen while mystery shrouds the president`s claim that Hamza Rabia, al-Qaeda`s No-3, was killed in a raid on Khisokhel village in Mirali sub-division of North Waziristan. Sources, having links with militant groups active in the tribal belt and across the border in Afghanistan, deny the claim.

Similarly, claims by the American media and Pakistani authorities that al-Qaeda`s No-2, Aiman Al-Zawahiri, was the target of the air strike in Damadola, or that top al-Qaeda operatives have actually been killed, are still to be verified.

The clergy-led government in the Frontier, already on the defensive over its silence on military operations in tribal areas and US air strikes, is taking the new warning as a declaration of open war. Confirming that President Pervez Musharraf has informed him of the new dangers ahead, Akram Khan Durrani has said that the US has warned to go after the so-called `terrorists` even in the settled areas of NWFP, if the attacks against the Americans and their allies continued in the neighbouring Afghanistan.

``What use is our strong defence if we cannot defend our innocent people against such naked aggression,`` said Durrani when approached for comments regarding the fresh US warnings. The US authorities, official sources said, are of the opinion that extremists and terrorists take shelter in the tribal areas along the Pak-Afghan border and parts of NWFP after carrying out terrorist attacks in the eastern and southern provinces of Afghanistan. Pakistani nationals have been identified carrying out suicide bombings and fighting the US and allied forces in Afghanistan.

``This is a conspiracy against Pakistan. The US believes that bombing can unite the Pashtuns on both sides of the Durand Line,`` said Durrani, adding that by doing so the Americans are making more enemies than friends.

In the wake of the warning, Pakistani officials foresee that the US air strikes against `terrorists` might be more severe than the ones carried out in North Waziristan and Bajaur agencies. ``The US action will not be limited to the tribal or border areas this time. It will engulf the whole of NWFP and even beyond,`` the sources said.