Change Management:Marx and Muslims

bj:

whats the matter with you man? still crying about partition????

do you want the likes of masadi, echoboom, urstruly to roam in downtown mumbai????

Jinnah is one of the best things to happen to post-independent india.

If it were not for his efforts a ``united`` india would be something like nigeria. (read about the divide between north/south nigeria)

sharia would been the rule of law in half of the country because the muslims would been afraid that the hindu bania would dilute their faith.

when a part of body rots, its better to cut it off rather than to let the rot spread to the entire body.

enough of this gandhi/jinnah. lets get back to what we were discussing earlier.

hamid
your latest stats a better than arjun`s, stats can be misleading they don`t take into account social class the chinese in uk were the cream of the hong kong i.e professional & business also a lot of the indian are from africa with similar background apart from that there isn`t great difference between white brits and paks.

#184 by tahmed32 on May 28, 2006 8:04am PT


someone said there are lies, damned lies and statistics.


The quote was lies, damned lies and facts that are inconvenient to pakis..

Then someone also said a picture is worth a thousand words..more proof that reality is biased against pakis...






on how they are so happy they have nothing more to do with us after partition.


If you pakis would stop doing the islamic terrorism thing all over the world, you`d be west bangladesh to most Indians...and another stan to most people in the west...

hamidm: i dont know enough about these pakistani students in UK, but suspect that part of the problem at least is that these are the children of barely literate mirpuria villagers who went to the UK in the 1970`s. So, they are following a well established pattern of immigrants: if the first generation is illiterate, the second tends to be frustrated and the third tends to start settling down.

So, the first generation produced bus conductors, the second generation produced bus bombers - so let us hope the third generation produces bus passengers who are actually getting somewhere.

Re: # 184

tahmed,

.......... like i said, arjun, as irritating as he might be at times, is performing a valuable public service for pakistan ......... let`s not shoot the messenger !

........... it is people like aslam who are in denial and are the true culprits - remember, acceptance is the first step on the path to a cure ..............

#181 by aslam644 on May 28, 2006 7:55am PT

Don`t have the link...

You can get these statistics from http://www.statistics.gov.uk

The conclusion is clear...brit-pakis are being kept down by the whites/hindus/jews...they need a jinnah to give them their own country where they can have a level field and prosper and have a lot of billionaires ...


One in three Muslims have no qualifications



Percentage of 16 to 30 year olds with a degree: by religion and country of birth, 2004, GB

Re: # 181

aslam,

....... the state of pakistani students in the uk is woeful and a crying shame - they are at the bottom of the list, behind the bangladeshis and just barely above the black caribbean students..... here are the latest results from March 2006:

http://www.dfes.gov.uk/pns/DisplayPN.cgi?pn_id=2006_0021

Published today, the Statistical First Release shows the percentage of pupils achieving 5 or more A* to C grades at GCSE and equivalent:

• White: up 2.8 percentage points to 55.1 per cent

• Black Caribbean: up 6 percentage points to 41.7 per cent.

• Black African: up 5 percentage points to 48.3 per cent.

• Indian: up 3.5 percentage points to 70.1 per cent

• Pakistani: up 3.2 percentage points to 48.4 per cent

• Bangladeshi: up 4.3 percentage points to 52.7 per cent

• Chinese: up 6.8 percentage points from 74.2 in 2004 to 81.0 percent in 2005, performing considerably higher than any other group

• All pupils in maintained schools: up 3.0 percentage points to 54.9 per cent

................ so how do you explain it and what are you going to do about it ? ..... build more mosques ? ........ shame on you !

aslam #191 As for his ``stats``, as someone said there are lies, damned lies and statistics. But, even ignoring that, please dont disturn Arjun as he basks in reflected glory - being incapable of joinging two coherent sentences himself. :-)

Also, enjoy the sight of all these indians rushing to tell us Pakistanis (and some like arjun clinging to chowk year after year with the same monotonous message) on how they are so happy they have nothing more to do with us after partition. Even Voltaire could not have come up with more humorous irony than this!! :-)

#178 by hamidm2 on May 28, 2006 7:45am PT

As far as I`m concerned, there`s no dark cloud...clear blue sky as far as the matter of the partition goes..On the Indian side, it`s only 0.001% of idiot punjabis like kuldip nayyar who long for this BS..age and heart disease should cure that in a short time....

Re: # 179

bharath,

......... i didn`t say it - your great king Babur did .... so stop blaming me ..........

#177 by arjun_m on May 28, 2006 7:44am
could let us know the source of your stats they look outdated to me

Re: # 177

masadi,

............ can you explain why this is happening in the uk ?...... is it possible that these kids are spending too much time feeling sorry for themselves, blaming the british ``elite``, worrying about having ``bad thoughts``, harboring suicidal and homicidal thoughts, and visiting the neighborhood mosque instead of hitting the books ?

...... this is what happens when you create the ghetto mentality that you and echoboom are so proud of ............ shame on you

p.s. arjun mian thanks for pointing it out - you actually perform a great public service on chowk

Re: # 175

{{{{{{the ``good looks`` part really bothers me because it is quite true}}}} -


see.......

That is why I consider ntsyed sahib and Masadi sahib are better human beings compared

to you a ``secular`` hypocrite with lots of racism and bigotry.......


So far I haven`t seen them writing such stuff.....

you are the same type of secular hypcrites all OVER THE WORLD who violently

condemn ``Islam`` and then use illiterate, poor muslims in the name of ``Islam`` to achieve

political goals while drinking whiskey and eating pork....




Like your generals and the ``El Presidente`` who has settled his son in Boston.......an

embodiment of ``enlightened moderation`` bombing his own people for a few toys and........

and send illiterate rural Punjoos to face Indian bullets in Kashmir..brainwashing them that they are doing this for the ``glory of Islam`` ..meanwhile drinking whiskey and eatin swine flesh of course.................

Re: # 176

arjun,


....... see? ...... it is not that difficult - every cloud has a silver lining :)

Indians should thank Jinnah for this...He got rid of the people who would have been a drag..imagine the headlines: british citizens of Indian origin suspects in London bombings...

Indian pupils have best GCSE results

#163 by hamidm2 on May 28, 2006 6:07am PT


...... it is really amazing how you guys just can`t get over the fact of partition


Everytime I hear contrasting news articles about pakis and Indians and Pakistan and India, I feel the urge to get down on my knees and thank jinnah..if it weren`t for him, India would be known for Islamic terrorism and all that other ``stuff``..

I`m sure Bangladeshis feel the same way everytime a paki is busted for terrorism in London, Australia, Virginia, California, New York, Iraq etc etc..i`ll bet they`re going ``Thank allah for those hindu bastards who gave us our own country``....