Farzana Versey May 3, 2006
#58 Posted by GT on May 3, 2006 9:36:40 pm
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#57 Posted by delhiwala on May 3, 2006 9:03:06 pm
Re: # 19
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
#56 Posted by delhiwala on May 3, 2006 9:02:58 pm
Re: # 19
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
#56 Posted by delhiwala on May 3, 2006 9:03:01 pm
Re: # 19
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
I love Nagpur, shopping in Itwari, empress mills, gadde godam, i love that place.
WTF are u talking about weather in nagpur, it is perfect.
I love Kamtee and nagpur.
#55 Posted by Humsab on May 3, 2006 8:24:38 pm
Farzana ji
You need to check your facts before you write anything. VMC has demolished many temples too. Actually demolition started with four temples on April 3. Actually, there are more temples demolished then dargaahs and NO RIOTS ENSUED at that time.
Well legality of the structure is another issue. So, please refrain from obfuscating the issue. You know who started riots.
Regards
You need to check your facts before you write anything. VMC has demolished many temples too. Actually demolition started with four temples on April 3. Actually, there are more temples demolished then dargaahs and NO RIOTS ENSUED at that time.
Well legality of the structure is another issue. So, please refrain from obfuscating the issue. You know who started riots.
Regards
#54 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 8:22:19 pm
Re: # 53 by jang on May 3, 2006 8:09pm PT
``wtf should FV worry about demolition of a temple in malaysia? if you care, then hold a protest or something in front of malaysian embassy.``
If Farzana and other Islamists can give a f**k and worry about Palestinian Muslims and what the ``slimy, evil`` Jews are doing to them and because of that we don`t have friendly and diplomatic relations with Israel for almost four decades then I certainly expect them to give a f**k about Malaysian Hindus as well when they are oppressed by Muslims. Israel never had any hostile relationship with India or sponsored terrorism against Indians or any such activity. It is because of the Muslim appeasement that we were not friendly with them for so many years.
``wtf should FV worry about demolition of a temple in malaysia? if you care, then hold a protest or something in front of malaysian embassy.``
If Farzana and other Islamists can give a f**k and worry about Palestinian Muslims and what the ``slimy, evil`` Jews are doing to them and because of that we don`t have friendly and diplomatic relations with Israel for almost four decades then I certainly expect them to give a f**k about Malaysian Hindus as well when they are oppressed by Muslims. Israel never had any hostile relationship with India or sponsored terrorism against Indians or any such activity. It is because of the Muslim appeasement that we were not friendly with them for so many years.
#53 Posted by jang on May 3, 2006 8:09:33 pm
wtf should FV worry about demolition of a temple in malaysia? if you care, then hold a protest or something in front of malaysian embassy.
some of these demolitions are always full of political opportunism and indians need to be cognizant of it, thats what seems to her message in this article. this seems to be all staged, and IMO many parties gain from it, the muslim politicians, the BJP as well as the center govt.
some of these demolitions are always full of political opportunism and indians need to be cognizant of it, thats what seems to her message in this article. this seems to be all staged, and IMO many parties gain from it, the muslim politicians, the BJP as well as the center govt.
#52 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 8:08:03 pm
Salimbhai (since you also referred to me as Bhai):
Sorry I could not respond to you in the earlier thread. You had asked me about the Solapur riots. Here is the link. Pardon the long link since I don`t know how to do Hyperlinking on Chowk. I will give you the benefit of doubt and apologize if I offended you by calling you an Islamic fundamentalism appeaser.
Here is the link to the Solapur riots
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2321749.stm
Around a similar timeframe, Miss World was to happen in Nigeria and there was protests from Islamists against holding it. A journalist jokingly remarked that if Mohammed was around he would be happy since he would get his choice of beautiful. Guess what Muslims attack Christians and hundreds killed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2501893.stm
Sorry I could not respond to you in the earlier thread. You had asked me about the Solapur riots. Here is the link. Pardon the long link since I don`t know how to do Hyperlinking on Chowk. I will give you the benefit of doubt and apologize if I offended you by calling you an Islamic fundamentalism appeaser.
Here is the link to the Solapur riots
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2321749.stm
Around a similar timeframe, Miss World was to happen in Nigeria and there was protests from Islamists against holding it. A journalist jokingly remarked that if Mohammed was around he would be happy since he would get his choice of beautiful. Guess what Muslims attack Christians and hundreds killed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2501893.stm
#51 Posted by jang on May 3, 2006 8:01:06 pm
Ferzana, how did you find out the name of the guy who was burnt in his car? I scanned several reports, and thery are very sketchy. Some even say a car was burnt and a man was thought to be burnt in it. Indian news media is notorious for not releasing religion of victims, so i am not too surprised about their coverage, so it must be your special sources.
This dargah was kinda expected to cause maximum trouble according to this yahoo article
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060501/48/63xbq.html
This dargah was kinda expected to cause maximum trouble according to this yahoo article
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060501/48/63xbq.html
#50 Posted by avkrishna on May 3, 2006 8:00:26 pm
As HP said in another board:
It is summer in India(Kashmir)...It is also fun time there...
Enjoy while it lasts...
Rgds,
It is summer in India(Kashmir)...It is also fun time there...
Enjoy while it lasts...
Rgds,
#49 Posted by GT on May 3, 2006 7:58:51 pm
Re: # 45 by Harimau
``Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?``
No the State did not. But Sir, isn`t (wasn`t) Advani a very important component of what we call a State? What has (did) he done (do)? Didn`t Hindus die in bulk in Kashmir when he was the Home Minister? Please read Praveen Swami`s article in the Hindu (yesterday). Yes, Praveen is a good old Tamil Brahmin so you can read him.
``Or don`t Hindus count as human beings?``
No, common Hindu folks do not count. Just like the common Muslim folks do not count. How can you even ask such a trivial question?
``Where are all those Muslims expressing outrage such as HP, Urstruly, Mullah321, etc., who cry buckets when a single Muslim is killed in India? Are Hindus to be treated as they were in the 17th century by thugs called sultans?``
Sir, do we not know that all Muslims, especially Pakistani Muslims, are thugs and butchers? Why do we even ask these guys - you forgot FV (a wannabe Pakistani) - for support or sympathy? Why can`t we protect our own? Now do not tell me that Sudarshan was not given a chance. If he failed to get his party, the BJP, to do what he wanted them to do then Sir he is a bad politician. A nincompoop actually. He doesn`t deserve to be the head of the RSS. I simply do not understand why intelligent and honest people like you cannot throw him out of his position. I am sure the RSS cadre are not nincompoops....so I fail to understand why you cannot get rid of your nincompoop leadership.
``Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?``
No the State did not. But Sir, isn`t (wasn`t) Advani a very important component of what we call a State? What has (did) he done (do)? Didn`t Hindus die in bulk in Kashmir when he was the Home Minister? Please read Praveen Swami`s article in the Hindu (yesterday). Yes, Praveen is a good old Tamil Brahmin so you can read him.
``Or don`t Hindus count as human beings?``
No, common Hindu folks do not count. Just like the common Muslim folks do not count. How can you even ask such a trivial question?
``Where are all those Muslims expressing outrage such as HP, Urstruly, Mullah321, etc., who cry buckets when a single Muslim is killed in India? Are Hindus to be treated as they were in the 17th century by thugs called sultans?``
Sir, do we not know that all Muslims, especially Pakistani Muslims, are thugs and butchers? Why do we even ask these guys - you forgot FV (a wannabe Pakistani) - for support or sympathy? Why can`t we protect our own? Now do not tell me that Sudarshan was not given a chance. If he failed to get his party, the BJP, to do what he wanted them to do then Sir he is a bad politician. A nincompoop actually. He doesn`t deserve to be the head of the RSS. I simply do not understand why intelligent and honest people like you cannot throw him out of his position. I am sure the RSS cadre are not nincompoops....so I fail to understand why you cannot get rid of your nincompoop leadership.
#48 Posted by bharath on May 3, 2006 7:58:13 pm
Re: # 45
>>>>>Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?<<<<,
Harimau,
these 35 timid Hindus were unarmed and probably pleaded for their lives like lambs in a butcher shop
.... unlike the ``peaceful, innocent, tolerant`` Guj muslims for whom FV is whipping up tribal frenzy
and this goes around as secularism.....................
>>>>>Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?<<<<,
Harimau,
these 35 timid Hindus were unarmed and probably pleaded for their lives like lambs in a butcher shop
.... unlike the ``peaceful, innocent, tolerant`` Guj muslims for whom FV is whipping up tribal frenzy
and this goes around as secularism.....................
#47 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 7:56:52 pm
The religion of peace is showing some peace to the Buddhists as well. How dare those Buddhists work slow. Don`t you know that infidel structures have to be removed as soon as possible. This is from a nation that is considered a liberal Muslim nation and as a role model for other Muslim nations.
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/content/view/2202/2/
Council demolishes illegal statue and temple building
Friday, 06 January 2006, 11:00
©The Sun (Used by permission)
THE Jasin Reclining Buddha statue, purportedly second largest in the country was demolished on Wednesday, along with a Siamese Temple next to it, the Chinese Press reported yesterday.
A 300-man demolition squad comprising personnel from the police, General Operations Force, fire and rescue department, water board, Tenaga Nasional, Jasin district council and Public Works Department officials took five hours to pull down the temple and levelled the 20m-long statue located inside an orchard.
The dawn operation, in which the squad deployed four bulldozers and backhoes and 20 lorries, surprised the villagers of Batu 14 Merlimau and angered the orchard owner, Lee Sang, who claimed he was not informed of the demolition.
The Jasin Municipal Council had earlier given the owner until Dec 29 to destroy the statue and temple which was built without approval.
Lee agreed to demolish the statue in a bid to save the temple and hired an Indonesian worker for the job when no locals wanted to undertake it for fear of desecrating the statue.
However, the council deemed Lee`s helper, working with a jack-hammer, too slow.
Lee said some officials had been monitoring the demolition work carried out by his worker and complained that it was too slow.
However, the operation on Wednesday caught him by surprise.
He said he was unable to remove figurines of Buddha and personal belongings from the temple as the authorities cordoned off the orchard during the operation.
No members of the press were allowed access to the site.
Lee, who became a Buddhist in 1989, bought the orchard to fulfil a vow he made while he was sick about 15 years ago. His vow was to build a temple if he recovers from his illness.
The temple, which is home to three monks, was built some years ago.
However, the reclining Buddha statute was completed only recently.
Lee said he was heart-broken to see the statute demolished as it was built with contributions from fellow devotees.
News that the statue was to be destroyed drew a stream of visitors and the devout form far and near last month.
Meanwhile, the council said it had sent out demolition notices to Lee prior to taking action.
Malacca housing, local government and environment committee chairman, Datuk Wira Poh Ah Tiam said enforcement
http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/content/view/2202/2/
Council demolishes illegal statue and temple building
Friday, 06 January 2006, 11:00
©The Sun (Used by permission)
THE Jasin Reclining Buddha statue, purportedly second largest in the country was demolished on Wednesday, along with a Siamese Temple next to it, the Chinese Press reported yesterday.
A 300-man demolition squad comprising personnel from the police, General Operations Force, fire and rescue department, water board, Tenaga Nasional, Jasin district council and Public Works Department officials took five hours to pull down the temple and levelled the 20m-long statue located inside an orchard.
The dawn operation, in which the squad deployed four bulldozers and backhoes and 20 lorries, surprised the villagers of Batu 14 Merlimau and angered the orchard owner, Lee Sang, who claimed he was not informed of the demolition.
The Jasin Municipal Council had earlier given the owner until Dec 29 to destroy the statue and temple which was built without approval.
Lee agreed to demolish the statue in a bid to save the temple and hired an Indonesian worker for the job when no locals wanted to undertake it for fear of desecrating the statue.
However, the council deemed Lee`s helper, working with a jack-hammer, too slow.
Lee said some officials had been monitoring the demolition work carried out by his worker and complained that it was too slow.
However, the operation on Wednesday caught him by surprise.
He said he was unable to remove figurines of Buddha and personal belongings from the temple as the authorities cordoned off the orchard during the operation.
No members of the press were allowed access to the site.
Lee, who became a Buddhist in 1989, bought the orchard to fulfil a vow he made while he was sick about 15 years ago. His vow was to build a temple if he recovers from his illness.
The temple, which is home to three monks, was built some years ago.
However, the reclining Buddha statute was completed only recently.
Lee said he was heart-broken to see the statute demolished as it was built with contributions from fellow devotees.
News that the statue was to be destroyed drew a stream of visitors and the devout form far and near last month.
Meanwhile, the council said it had sent out demolition notices to Lee prior to taking action.
Malacca housing, local government and environment committee chairman, Datuk Wira Poh Ah Tiam said enforcement
#46 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 7:52:28 pm
Of course, no comments from the likes of Farzana Versey, HP, and other Mullahs and the psec Islamic fundamentalist appeasers like Rakesh Mani
http://www.hindustantimes.com/2006/Apr/21/5967_1680176,001600060001.htm
Hindu temple demolished in Malaysia
Press Trust of India
Kuala Lumpur, April 21, 2006
Malaysian authorities have demolished a century-old Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur, bulldozing the building as devotees cried and begged them to stop.
``The Malaimel Sri Selva Kaliamman Temple was reduced to rubble after Kuala Lumpur`s city hall sent in bulldozers,`` an eyewitness said.
In a complaint to police the temple`s vice president, Subramaniam Ragappan, said about 300 devotees were praying on Tuesday when the machines arrived, accompanied by police and city hall officials.
``We were forced to stop our prayers and rituals halfway as they proceeded to tear down the temple,`` Subramaniam said.
A copy of a letter from city hall to a local lawmaker, who had asked for the temple to be left intact, said the demolition was going ahead to make way for a building project.
City hall officials were not immediately available for comment.
Subramaniam admitted that the city hall had tried in 2001 and again in 2004 to tear down the building, which was on government land, but had been dissuaded by politicians on each attempt.
``Everybody was crying and saying how could the government do this, but they still broke the temple,`` he said.
``For 100 years we prayed there. How could they come to remove the temple?`` he said, adding that they were given just one day`s notice of the demolition.
From --
Hindustan Times
http://www.hindustantimes.com/2006/Apr/21/5967_1680176,001600060001.htm
Hindu temple demolished in Malaysia
Press Trust of India
Kuala Lumpur, April 21, 2006
Malaysian authorities have demolished a century-old Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur, bulldozing the building as devotees cried and begged them to stop.
``The Malaimel Sri Selva Kaliamman Temple was reduced to rubble after Kuala Lumpur`s city hall sent in bulldozers,`` an eyewitness said.
In a complaint to police the temple`s vice president, Subramaniam Ragappan, said about 300 devotees were praying on Tuesday when the machines arrived, accompanied by police and city hall officials.
``We were forced to stop our prayers and rituals halfway as they proceeded to tear down the temple,`` Subramaniam said.
A copy of a letter from city hall to a local lawmaker, who had asked for the temple to be left intact, said the demolition was going ahead to make way for a building project.
City hall officials were not immediately available for comment.
Subramaniam admitted that the city hall had tried in 2001 and again in 2004 to tear down the building, which was on government land, but had been dissuaded by politicians on each attempt.
``Everybody was crying and saying how could the government do this, but they still broke the temple,`` he said.
``For 100 years we prayed there. How could they come to remove the temple?`` he said, adding that they were given just one day`s notice of the demolition.
From --
Hindustan Times
#45 Posted by harimau on May 3, 2006 7:04:30 pm
[On what grounds did L. K. Advani state, “The Congress party is dividing the nation by continuously harping on the minority protection in the same way that the British rulers did for their own ulterior motives”? Does he not realise that the basics of a democracy are to protect all its citizens?]
Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?
Or don`t Hindus count as human beings?
Where are all those Muslims expressing outrage such as HP, Urstruly, Mullah321, etc., who cry buckets when a single Muslim is killed in India? Are Hindus to be treated as they were in the 17th century by thugs called sultans?
Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?
Or don`t Hindus count as human beings?
Where are all those Muslims expressing outrage such as HP, Urstruly, Mullah321, etc., who cry buckets when a single Muslim is killed in India? Are Hindus to be treated as they were in the 17th century by thugs called sultans?
#44 Posted by antihypochrist on May 3, 2006 6:49:34 pm
``The ‘modern look’ should start with the state’s chief minister, who has been milking communalism for all it is worth.
And the police. Why did they open fire? ``
-- I can`t freakin` believe FV doesn`t know the answer to this. It`s because the rioting muslim mob was a grave threat to public order.
And the police. Why did they open fire? ``
-- I can`t freakin` believe FV doesn`t know the answer to this. It`s because the rioting muslim mob was a grave threat to public order.
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