Farzana Versey May 3, 2006
#43 Posted by bharath on May 3, 2006 6:16:33 pm
RE#38 ``exceptional job with the help of salim chauhan and other right wingers from both countries...``
SALIM BHAI,
I continue to admire your neutrality..I am 100% opposed to Hindu rashtra and I am in favor of bulldozing all freaking temples that r in the middle of the road. You accused me of some thing ( i was disappointed), but look here :-) u r accused of being right winger by jehadi terrorists! ......
And the jehadi terrorist doesn`t even have the minimum honesty/decency to say dead Hindus, he hides behind the description ``dead Indians``.
but having said that .......
My dear Salim Bhai, you have strongly condemned Muslim terrorism/ Paki terrorism vehemently, but I am afraid the same can not be said about this author or this web site.
PAKIS DROOL ALL OVER THIS PLACE discussing issues that undermine Indian nationalism
Hindu-Muslim strife, caste violence, etc, etc. But grave Paki issues are pushed under the carpet......
Hindu-Muslim strife is as much painful to Indian nationalists as Shia-Sunni conflict may be to PAKIs.
I WILL BE IMPRESSED WITH THE NEUTRALITY AND OPEN MINDEDNES of this web site if I see ARTICLES UNDER the following headings:
1. Is Pakistan a Sunni Islamic State- fears of the Shia Muslims in Pakistan
2. Lashkar-e-Toiba and its sponsorship from Pakistan as of May 2006- the continuing PUNJABI SUNNI TERRORISM in Kashmir
3. Islamic terrorism- the fears and sufferings of Thai budhists, Paris Christians, and the bad bad Indian Hindoos
4. Salafi Vs Barelvi- the emerging sectarian scenario in Pakistan
5.Balochi tears in London- tears for freedom .......can they be supressed indefinitely?
6.Punjabi Domination in Contemporary Pakistan- bitterness of the Sindhis, Muhajirs, Balochs, and the Pashtoons
7.Can Hindus in Pakistan squeak? - bloody tears of a brutalized minority
Respectfully Yours,
SALIM BHAI,
I continue to admire your neutrality..I am 100% opposed to Hindu rashtra and I am in favor of bulldozing all freaking temples that r in the middle of the road. You accused me of some thing ( i was disappointed), but look here :-) u r accused of being right winger by jehadi terrorists! ......
And the jehadi terrorist doesn`t even have the minimum honesty/decency to say dead Hindus, he hides behind the description ``dead Indians``.
but having said that .......
My dear Salim Bhai, you have strongly condemned Muslim terrorism/ Paki terrorism vehemently, but I am afraid the same can not be said about this author or this web site.
PAKIS DROOL ALL OVER THIS PLACE discussing issues that undermine Indian nationalism
Hindu-Muslim strife, caste violence, etc, etc. But grave Paki issues are pushed under the carpet......
Hindu-Muslim strife is as much painful to Indian nationalists as Shia-Sunni conflict may be to PAKIs.
I WILL BE IMPRESSED WITH THE NEUTRALITY AND OPEN MINDEDNES of this web site if I see ARTICLES UNDER the following headings:
1. Is Pakistan a Sunni Islamic State- fears of the Shia Muslims in Pakistan
2. Lashkar-e-Toiba and its sponsorship from Pakistan as of May 2006- the continuing PUNJABI SUNNI TERRORISM in Kashmir
3. Islamic terrorism- the fears and sufferings of Thai budhists, Paris Christians, and the bad bad Indian Hindoos
4. Salafi Vs Barelvi- the emerging sectarian scenario in Pakistan
5.Balochi tears in London- tears for freedom .......can they be supressed indefinitely?
6.Punjabi Domination in Contemporary Pakistan- bitterness of the Sindhis, Muhajirs, Balochs, and the Pashtoons
7.Can Hindus in Pakistan squeak? - bloody tears of a brutalized minority
Respectfully Yours,
#42 Posted by jang on May 3, 2006 4:19:28 pm
#41 samosa is very right.. i remember as a child back in mid-sixties army flag-marching thru old city (i think its called Bhadra) and watching it from a relatives window.
#41 Posted by samosa on May 3, 2006 4:16:28 pm
I dont expect any article from FV about Kashmiri Hindus. I already know what she feels about them. I was looking for a breaking news that is regularly posted by Chowk-Staff.
delhiwala, if you dont know about riots between hindus and muslims prior to godhra then either you are ignorant or blind. Riots have been occuring in Ahmedabad for last 60+ years. It is not a new phenomena or something manufactured by BJP. There are areas where a hindu mother would never want her child going even during the day.
delhiwala, if you dont know about riots between hindus and muslims prior to godhra then either you are ignorant or blind. Riots have been occuring in Ahmedabad for last 60+ years. It is not a new phenomena or something manufactured by BJP. There are areas where a hindu mother would never want her child going even during the day.
#40 Posted by GT on May 3, 2006 4:04:16 pm
Re: # 37 by HP,
``Why dont they write about it``
How can you forget so fast? Remember, Indians are fine with the status quo. Indians are fine with some unwashed folks dying here and there. As long as Pakistan`s IT exports do not exceed India`s, Indians are fine. Indians are doing great in foreign policy, domestic policy, you name it policy. And yes, if there is anything wrong it is because of these jihadis and their queen - FV. Even then, Indians can do nothing about it......Pathetic.
``Why dont they write about it``
How can you forget so fast? Remember, Indians are fine with the status quo. Indians are fine with some unwashed folks dying here and there. As long as Pakistan`s IT exports do not exceed India`s, Indians are fine. Indians are doing great in foreign policy, domestic policy, you name it policy. And yes, if there is anything wrong it is because of these jihadis and their queen - FV. Even then, Indians can do nothing about it......Pathetic.
#39 Posted by khamkhwa. on May 3, 2006 3:59:32 pm
Re: # 37
...perhaps you are unaware that FV is the editor in chief of chowk.com which caters to indians, pakistanis and bangladeshis...atleast in principle...if she can not be relied upon to write about a serious happening in the area of chowk interest then who...you want to see their side who better than an indian, which she was till last news came in...what a moron!
...perhaps you are unaware that FV is the editor in chief of chowk.com which caters to indians, pakistanis and bangladeshis...atleast in principle...if she can not be relied upon to write about a serious happening in the area of chowk interest then who...you want to see their side who better than an indian, which she was till last news came in...what a moron!
#38 Posted by khamkhwa. on May 3, 2006 3:51:44 pm
Re: # 34
[I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.]
...now that you have pointed out the kashmir massacre, you might see it posted with a few crocodile tears for the dead indians... whereas, salim chauhan is allowed free reins to continue to bad mouth pakistanis and punjabees without a let, on an article where they are nowhere to be seen...farzana versey was brought to chowk for a certain agenda...she has been doing an exceptional job with the help of salim chauhan and other right wingers from both countries...what a shame, the place that was created for bringing the two sides together has succeeded in widening the chasm...
[I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.]
...now that you have pointed out the kashmir massacre, you might see it posted with a few crocodile tears for the dead indians... whereas, salim chauhan is allowed free reins to continue to bad mouth pakistanis and punjabees without a let, on an article where they are nowhere to be seen...farzana versey was brought to chowk for a certain agenda...she has been doing an exceptional job with the help of salim chauhan and other right wingers from both countries...what a shame, the place that was created for bringing the two sides together has succeeded in widening the chasm...
#37 Posted by HP on May 3, 2006 3:47:20 pm
This is funny people are asking FV to write abt the kashmir situation...Why dont they write about it. Lets see their side of the story. let us see who writes first... why rely on FV to write abt every thing, why not you?
#36 Posted by arjun_m on May 3, 2006 3:20:10 pm
pandits were either asking for it or they left of their own accord...
#35 Posted by guru on May 3, 2006 3:17:41 pm
Bibiji,
40 or so innocent massacred in Jammu ..and you do not have a word, or are there few? As usual I have not read your article. we can smell you guys from long distance. because of you guys common abdul is hurt. have you opened a school in muslim mohalla? i had suggested last time to run some english tuitions for poor muslim kids. In JEE one has to have passing marks in English. Stop your divisive bullshitting. I am assuming there must be a lot of it in this article, if one goes by the title.
40 or so innocent massacred in Jammu ..and you do not have a word, or are there few? As usual I have not read your article. we can smell you guys from long distance. because of you guys common abdul is hurt. have you opened a school in muslim mohalla? i had suggested last time to run some english tuitions for poor muslim kids. In JEE one has to have passing marks in English. Stop your divisive bullshitting. I am assuming there must be a lot of it in this article, if one goes by the title.
#34 Posted by samosa on May 3, 2006 3:06:01 pm
The question about demolishing dargah is appropriate. I dont know what caused local municipality to remove it even though it was discussed about moving it somewhere else. But there is no connection between Modi and the riots. Atleast not so far. There is no need to extrapolate at this moment. The author seems to be waiting for anything or something to happen in Gujarat and quickly bring out modi bashing. There are people who are waiting to compare hindus to nazis. Its wrong (to put it mildly) to associate all gujarati hindus with this killings.
May 1st: Police clashed with local muslims and two were killed.
May 2nd: The number of people killed after clashes with local Muslims in the city of Baroda has risen to three. Crowd was involved in rioting and vehicles buring.
May 3rd: Mohammed Rafiq Vora was burned to death in his car.
How is that Hindus are accused to killing Vora. Maybe the rioters killed him by mistake.
The rumor spread by FV causes more damage ``According to some reports, the BJP leaders wanted the “mini-Babri Masjid” completely destroyed.`` Again, there is no proof of this.
Local Police tried to control rioting on first day. Curfew was set next day. military flag marched on third day.
If you are stupid not to understand Advanis accusation about minorityism by Congress then no explaining will suffice you. Government is not supposed to protect only minority it is suppose to protect all and not just muslims. Government had responsibility to protect 59 hindus in Godhra, 40 hindus in Akshardham, 1000 muslims of gujarat and Mohmaad Rafiq Vora.
If FV is hell bent on accusing Modi then she shoud explain how will this riots help him.
P.S.:
I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.
May 1st: Police clashed with local muslims and two were killed.
May 2nd: The number of people killed after clashes with local Muslims in the city of Baroda has risen to three. Crowd was involved in rioting and vehicles buring.
May 3rd: Mohammed Rafiq Vora was burned to death in his car.
How is that Hindus are accused to killing Vora. Maybe the rioters killed him by mistake.
The rumor spread by FV causes more damage ``According to some reports, the BJP leaders wanted the “mini-Babri Masjid” completely destroyed.`` Again, there is no proof of this.
Local Police tried to control rioting on first day. Curfew was set next day. military flag marched on third day.
If you are stupid not to understand Advanis accusation about minorityism by Congress then no explaining will suffice you. Government is not supposed to protect only minority it is suppose to protect all and not just muslims. Government had responsibility to protect 59 hindus in Godhra, 40 hindus in Akshardham, 1000 muslims of gujarat and Mohmaad Rafiq Vora.
If FV is hell bent on accusing Modi then she shoud explain how will this riots help him.
P.S.:
I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.
#33 Posted by arjun_m on May 3, 2006 2:59:47 pm
#25 by Salim_Chauhan on May 3, 2006 2:23pm PT
Historic places and old relics should be preserved for cultural enrichment.
FV disagrees with you..She thinks it`s ok for the taliban to destroy the buddhas because there are no buddhists in afghanistan..
Historic places and old relics should be preserved for cultural enrichment.
FV disagrees with you..She thinks it`s ok for the taliban to destroy the buddhas because there are no buddhists in afghanistan..
#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 3, 2006 2:55:24 pm
I say we send the Paki Punju Rangers to Gujarat (the other one!) - they will kill everyone - Hindus, Muslims, guilty, innocent - anyone who doesn`t look like a dagga or khota.
#31 Posted by GT on May 3, 2006 2:51:20 pm
Re: # 28 by mohar:
``Only person who is laughing all the way to vote bank is - Modi...``
Sorry, but Sonia Gandhi is laughing too. In fact, quite a few parties are laughing. You think Sitaram Yechury of the CPM had no idea about the council resolution? FV is right, the worst of the lot are the S. Azmis.
``Only person who is laughing all the way to vote bank is - Modi...``
Sorry, but Sonia Gandhi is laughing too. In fact, quite a few parties are laughing. You think Sitaram Yechury of the CPM had no idea about the council resolution? FV is right, the worst of the lot are the S. Azmis.
#30 Posted by swarrier on May 3, 2006 2:39:16 pm
Re: # 27
Good questions GT. FV, is there anyway of knowing the answers? Or do we have to wait 2 years after some commission is set up to come out with the facts (sic).
Good questions GT. FV, is there anyway of knowing the answers? Or do we have to wait 2 years after some commission is set up to come out with the facts (sic).
#29 Posted by arjun_m on May 3, 2006 2:37:16 pm
They razed a temple across the lane where I live.
They had an illegal temple on Malabar Hill? I find that hard to believe..
Did Feroz Khan comment on the Varanasi blasts?
He did..he talked about the great benarasi saris he had bought over the years..
oh wait...that was you..
There`s a whole sense of deja vu here...Muslims rioted because a dargah was demolished..cops shot back..WTF is wrong with that..the cops should have done a lot more shooting when the chaddis were running riot in 2002..
#28 Posted by mohar11 on May 3, 2006 2:36:09 pm
Re: # 25 salim
that`s all I am saying... I mean - we all know that our politicians are no good, corrupt and even murderers [ ironically, we are the ones who put them on the chair, but that`s another topic]... so when sh!t happens , which often does, we should know how to counter it properly...
All that we had to do was file court case - get compensation from gov`t and build a even bigger dargah somewhere else - or open an orphanage, a hospital, school - save lives, educate children - god knows we have enough dargahs and temples already... one is gone - so what?....Instead we riot... now who gained from this?... not the public, not the people who died needlessly... Only person who is laughing all the way to vote bank is - Modi...
People of India have to take control... they have to wisen up... this kind of behavior is not going to help...
And if you notice - it`s always the hinuds and muslims who riot ... I ahve never heard of christians, sikhs, jains rioting for anything... and if you notice - these communities have always done well, financially, educationally - while most of poor and backward people in India are either hinuds or muslims....
That shows - doesn`t it?....
that`s all I am saying... I mean - we all know that our politicians are no good, corrupt and even murderers [ ironically, we are the ones who put them on the chair, but that`s another topic]... so when sh!t happens , which often does, we should know how to counter it properly...
All that we had to do was file court case - get compensation from gov`t and build a even bigger dargah somewhere else - or open an orphanage, a hospital, school - save lives, educate children - god knows we have enough dargahs and temples already... one is gone - so what?....Instead we riot... now who gained from this?... not the public, not the people who died needlessly... Only person who is laughing all the way to vote bank is - Modi...
People of India have to take control... they have to wisen up... this kind of behavior is not going to help...
And if you notice - it`s always the hinuds and muslims who riot ... I ahve never heard of christians, sikhs, jains rioting for anything... and if you notice - these communities have always done well, financially, educationally - while most of poor and backward people in India are either hinuds or muslims....
That shows - doesn`t it?....
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