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Modi’s Men and their Mean Machines

Farzana Versey May 3, 2006

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#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on May 3, 2006 2:55:24 pm
I say we send the Paki Punju Rangers to Gujarat (the other one!) - they will kill everyone - Hindus, Muslims, guilty, innocent - anyone who doesn`t look like a dagga or khota.
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#33 Posted by arjun_m on May 3, 2006 2:59:47 pm
#25 by Salim_Chauhan on May 3, 2006 2:23pm PT


Historic places and old relics should be preserved for cultural enrichment.


FV disagrees with you..She thinks it`s ok for the taliban to destroy the buddhas because there are no buddhists in afghanistan..
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#34 Posted by samosa on May 3, 2006 3:06:01 pm
The question about demolishing dargah is appropriate. I dont know what caused local municipality to remove it even though it was discussed about moving it somewhere else. But there is no connection between Modi and the riots. Atleast not so far. There is no need to extrapolate at this moment. The author seems to be waiting for anything or something to happen in Gujarat and quickly bring out modi bashing. There are people who are waiting to compare hindus to nazis. Its wrong (to put it mildly) to associate all gujarati hindus with this killings.

May 1st: Police clashed with local muslims and two were killed.
May 2nd: The number of people killed after clashes with local Muslims in the city of Baroda has risen to three. Crowd was involved in rioting and vehicles buring.
May 3rd: Mohammed Rafiq Vora was burned to death in his car.

How is that Hindus are accused to killing Vora. Maybe the rioters killed him by mistake.

The rumor spread by FV causes more damage ``According to some reports, the BJP leaders wanted the “mini-Babri Masjid” completely destroyed.`` Again, there is no proof of this.
Local Police tried to control rioting on first day. Curfew was set next day. military flag marched on third day.

If you are stupid not to understand Advanis accusation about minorityism by Congress then no explaining will suffice you. Government is not supposed to protect only minority it is suppose to protect all and not just muslims. Government had responsibility to protect 59 hindus in Godhra, 40 hindus in Akshardham, 1000 muslims of gujarat and Mohmaad Rafiq Vora.

If FV is hell bent on accusing Modi then she shoud explain how will this riots help him.

P.S.:
I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.
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#35 Posted by guru on May 3, 2006 3:17:41 pm
Bibiji,

40 or so innocent massacred in Jammu ..and you do not have a word, or are there few? As usual I have not read your article. we can smell you guys from long distance. because of you guys common abdul is hurt. have you opened a school in muslim mohalla? i had suggested last time to run some english tuitions for poor muslim kids. In JEE one has to have passing marks in English. Stop your divisive bullshitting. I am assuming there must be a lot of it in this article, if one goes by the title.
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#36 Posted by arjun_m on May 3, 2006 3:20:10 pm
pandits were either asking for it or they left of their own accord...

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#37 Posted by HP on May 3, 2006 3:47:20 pm



This is funny people are asking FV to write abt the kashmir situation...Why dont they write about it. Lets see their side of the story. let us see who writes first... why rely on FV to write abt every thing, why not you?

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#38 Posted by khamkhwa. on May 3, 2006 3:51:44 pm
Re: # 34
[I was expecting breaking news on Chowk when 35 hindus were massacred in Kashmir.]

...now that you have pointed out the kashmir massacre, you might see it posted with a few crocodile tears for the dead indians... whereas, salim chauhan is allowed free reins to continue to bad mouth pakistanis and punjabees without a let, on an article where they are nowhere to be seen...farzana versey was brought to chowk for a certain agenda...she has been doing an exceptional job with the help of salim chauhan and other right wingers from both countries...what a shame, the place that was created for bringing the two sides together has succeeded in widening the chasm...
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#39 Posted by khamkhwa. on May 3, 2006 3:59:32 pm
Re: # 37
...perhaps you are unaware that FV is the editor in chief of chowk.com which caters to indians, pakistanis and bangladeshis...atleast in principle...if she can not be relied upon to write about a serious happening in the area of chowk interest then who...you want to see their side who better than an indian, which she was till last news came in...what a moron!
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#40 Posted by GT on May 3, 2006 4:04:16 pm
Re: # 37 by HP,

``Why dont they write about it``

How can you forget so fast? Remember, Indians are fine with the status quo. Indians are fine with some unwashed folks dying here and there. As long as Pakistan`s IT exports do not exceed India`s, Indians are fine. Indians are doing great in foreign policy, domestic policy, you name it policy. And yes, if there is anything wrong it is because of these jihadis and their queen - FV. Even then, Indians can do nothing about it......Pathetic.


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#41 Posted by samosa on May 3, 2006 4:16:28 pm
I dont expect any article from FV about Kashmiri Hindus. I already know what she feels about them. I was looking for a breaking news that is regularly posted by Chowk-Staff.

delhiwala, if you dont know about riots between hindus and muslims prior to godhra then either you are ignorant or blind. Riots have been occuring in Ahmedabad for last 60+ years. It is not a new phenomena or something manufactured by BJP. There are areas where a hindu mother would never want her child going even during the day.
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#42 Posted by jang on May 3, 2006 4:19:28 pm
#41 samosa is very right.. i remember as a child back in mid-sixties army flag-marching thru old city (i think its called Bhadra) and watching it from a relatives window.
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#43 Posted by bharath on May 3, 2006 6:16:33 pm
RE#38 ``exceptional job with the help of salim chauhan and other right wingers from both countries...``

SALIM BHAI,
I continue to admire your neutrality..I am 100% opposed to Hindu rashtra and I am in favor of bulldozing all freaking temples that r in the middle of the road. You accused me of some thing ( i was disappointed), but look here :-) u r accused of being right winger by jehadi terrorists! ......

And the jehadi terrorist doesn`t even have the minimum honesty/decency to say dead Hindus, he hides behind the description ``dead Indians``.

but having said that .......

My dear Salim Bhai, you have strongly condemned Muslim terrorism/ Paki terrorism vehemently, but I am afraid the same can not be said about this author or this web site.

PAKIS DROOL ALL OVER THIS PLACE discussing issues that undermine Indian nationalism
Hindu-Muslim strife, caste violence, etc, etc. But grave Paki issues are pushed under the carpet......

Hindu-Muslim strife is as much painful to Indian nationalists as Shia-Sunni conflict may be to PAKIs.


I WILL BE IMPRESSED WITH THE NEUTRALITY AND OPEN MINDEDNES of this web site if I see ARTICLES UNDER the following headings:

1. Is Pakistan a Sunni Islamic State- fears of the Shia Muslims in Pakistan


2. Lashkar-e-Toiba and its sponsorship from Pakistan as of May 2006- the continuing PUNJABI SUNNI TERRORISM in Kashmir



3. Islamic terrorism- the fears and sufferings of Thai budhists, Paris Christians, and the bad bad Indian Hindoos


4. Salafi Vs Barelvi- the emerging sectarian scenario in Pakistan


5.Balochi tears in London- tears for freedom .......can they be supressed indefinitely?


6.Punjabi Domination in Contemporary Pakistan- bitterness of the Sindhis, Muhajirs, Balochs, and the Pashtoons


7.Can Hindus in Pakistan squeak? - bloody tears of a brutalized minority


Respectfully Yours,


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#44 Posted by antihypochrist on May 3, 2006 6:49:34 pm
``The ‘modern look’ should start with the state’s chief minister, who has been milking communalism for all it is worth.

And the police. Why did they open fire? ``


-- I can`t freakin` believe FV doesn`t know the answer to this. It`s because the rioting muslim mob was a grave threat to public order.
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#45 Posted by harimau on May 3, 2006 7:04:30 pm
[On what grounds did L. K. Advani state, “The Congress party is dividing the nation by continuously harping on the minority protection in the same way that the British rulers did for their own ulterior motives”? Does he not realise that the basics of a democracy are to protect all its citizens?]

Did the State protect the 35 Hindus killed in Kashmir just a few days ago?

Or don`t Hindus count as human beings?

Where are all those Muslims expressing outrage such as HP, Urstruly, Mullah321, etc., who cry buckets when a single Muslim is killed in India? Are Hindus to be treated as they were in the 17th century by thugs called sultans?
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#46 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 7:52:28 pm
Of course, no comments from the likes of Farzana Versey, HP, and other Mullahs and the psec Islamic fundamentalist appeasers like Rakesh Mani

http://www.hindustantimes.com/2006/Apr/21/5967_1680176,001600060001.htm

Hindu temple demolished in Malaysia
Press Trust of India

Kuala Lumpur, April 21, 2006

Malaysian authorities have demolished a century-old Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur, bulldozing the building as devotees cried and begged them to stop.

``The Malaimel Sri Selva Kaliamman Temple was reduced to rubble after Kuala Lumpur`s city hall sent in bulldozers,`` an eyewitness said.

In a complaint to police the temple`s vice president, Subramaniam Ragappan, said about 300 devotees were praying on Tuesday when the machines arrived, accompanied by police and city hall officials.

``We were forced to stop our prayers and rituals halfway as they proceeded to tear down the temple,`` Subramaniam said.

A copy of a letter from city hall to a local lawmaker, who had asked for the temple to be left intact, said the demolition was going ahead to make way for a building project.

City hall officials were not immediately available for comment.

Subramaniam admitted that the city hall had tried in 2001 and again in 2004 to tear down the building, which was on government land, but had been dissuaded by politicians on each attempt.

``Everybody was crying and saying how could the government do this, but they still broke the temple,`` he said.

``For 100 years we prayed there. How could they come to remove the temple?`` he said, adding that they were given just one day`s notice of the demolition.

From --
Hindustan Times
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#47 Posted by kedarnathji on May 3, 2006 7:56:52 pm
The religion of peace is showing some peace to the Buddhists as well. How dare those Buddhists work slow. Don`t you know that infidel structures have to be removed as soon as possible. This is from a nation that is considered a liberal Muslim nation and as a role model for other Muslim nations.

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/content/view/2202/2/

Council demolishes illegal statue and temple building

Friday, 06 January 2006, 11:00
©The Sun (Used by permission)

THE Jasin Reclining Buddha statue, purportedly second largest in the country was demolished on Wednesday, along with a Siamese Temple next to it, the Chinese Press reported yesterday.

A 300-man demolition squad comprising personnel from the police, General Operations Force, fire and rescue department, water board, Tenaga Nasional, Jasin district council and Public Works Department officials took five hours to pull down the temple and levelled the 20m-long statue located inside an orchard.

The dawn operation, in which the squad deployed four bulldozers and backhoes and 20 lorries, surprised the villagers of Batu 14 Merlimau and angered the orchard owner, Lee Sang, who claimed he was not informed of the demolition.

The Jasin Municipal Council had earlier given the owner until Dec 29 to destroy the statue and temple which was built without approval.

Lee agreed to demolish the statue in a bid to save the temple and hired an Indonesian worker for the job when no locals wanted to undertake it for fear of desecrating the statue.

However, the council deemed Lee`s helper, working with a jack-hammer, too slow.

Lee said some officials had been monitoring the demolition work carried out by his worker and complained that it was too slow.

However, the operation on Wednesday caught him by surprise.

He said he was unable to remove figurines of Buddha and personal belongings from the temple as the authorities cordoned off the orchard during the operation.

No members of the press were allowed access to the site.

Lee, who became a Buddhist in 1989, bought the orchard to fulfil a vow he made while he was sick about 15 years ago. His vow was to build a temple if he recovers from his illness.

The temple, which is home to three monks, was built some years ago.

However, the reclining Buddha statute was completed only recently.

Lee said he was heart-broken to see the statute demolished as it was built with contributions from fellow devotees.

News that the statue was to be destroyed drew a stream of visitors and the devout form far and near last month.

Meanwhile, the council said it had sent out demolition notices to Lee prior to taking action.

Malacca housing, local government and environment committee chairman, Datuk Wira Poh Ah Tiam said enforcement
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